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My neighbour's car is touching mine, what can I do?

  • 12-11-2012 12:25pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5


    My neighbour has always been one of those typical neighbours from hell. I recently got a car and I'm parking it outside my house but he has some unwritten rule that this is his second car's parking space. I park over enough so that half my car is in front of my house and there's still half the footpath for his wife's car but every time I move the car away, they run out and move their car up. Now, they're parking the car so it's right up against mine, the front of their car touching the back of mine. Can I call the guards? I mean, one of these times, they could do damage to my car and I know they'll deny it. I have pictures of the cars touching and everything. This is a forty something year old man with two kids picking a fight with a twenty-two year old girl over a couple of inches and it makes me so angry.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,325 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Neither of you owns the public road space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭DredFX


    Threaten him sternly, stating that you will take legal action if he can't respect your property. If he snubs you, then do definitely call the guards. He's violating your property without your permission, so you have every right to tell him to respect your own personal space.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭Lombardo86


    Neither of you owns the public road space.

    Most useful advice ever. How is that helping the OP?

    Not to burst your bubble.. you have pictures as you say but they don't actually really show much. You could have tipped his car and got out to take pictures or parked right up against him and got snapping. I dont think you could rely on that too much.

    I always sympathise with people who have horrific neighbours.. just dont understand why people go out of their way to be idiots about these things.

    Have you actually had a conversation about this?

    Outside our house growing up we had cars but we used have HALF of the area in front of our house, as did the neighbours. That was out of courtest, clearly this guy has none


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    DredFX wrote: »
    He's violating your property without your permission...

    What does that mean exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    My neighbour's car is touching mine, what can I do?

    Inappropriately?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭DredFX


    What does that mean exactly?

    Maybe "violating" was a poor choice of words on my part. Sorry.

    What I really meant was that if his car is bordering on her property, and was scraping up against the vehicle in question, then she should have the right to tell him to move it away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    What does that mean exactly?

    Not sure if trolling...but he's pushing his car up against OP's, where the violating is the wilful disrespect for his property and the property is the car.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    Most contentious matters in Ireland arise over a "few inches".

    Property, Family Law, etc.

    First thing to do, is calm down. Forget the conspiracy theories and move on with your life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I recently got a car and I'm parking it outside my house but he has some unwritten rule that this is his second car's parking space. I park over enough so that half my car is in front of my house and there's still half the footpath for his wife's car but every time I move the car away, they run out and move their car up.
    This bit makes no sense. It sounds like your car is half in front of your house, half in front of their house; why not park your car fully in front of your house? As for the "unwritten rule", it sounds like his car is parked infront of his house, but you think you can park half your car there instead?
    DredFX wrote: »
    What I really meant was that if his car is bordering on her property
    How so?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    I'm afraid that the public road is just that public and so it doesn't belong to anyone.

    That said you should probably just talk to them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭DredFX


    I'm afraid that the public road is just that public and so it doesn't belong to anyone.

    That said you should probably just talk to them.

    Good point. The road may just be for public use, so there mightn't be any actual violation of property, so talking it through with them would be the best approach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    DredFX wrote: »
    Well...


    Unless OP is exaggerating, they're taking up her parking space right in front of her house. Then there's the case of how close they're parking to her. I believe she at least deserves to tell them to respect her own space.

    That would be her drive way, the road is a public road - legally, I am as entitled to park there as she is.
    It just happens to be in front of her house, she doesn't own it, or have any preferential rights to it in any way shape or form. Yes her neighbour is a total dick, but unfortunately that's not illegal!
    I've been in your exact same position OP (due to building work on the road) and it almost came to blows on several occasions, thankfully the work ended and freed up some space before any actual fisticuffs - but the bad feeling lingered for years (in fact i still hate the fúcker, i just don't live there anymore). It's just not worth it over a parking space!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭DredFX


    That would be her drive way, the road is a public road - legally, I am as entitled to park there as she is.
    It just happens to be in front of her house, she doesn't own it, or have any preferential rights to it in any way shape or form. Yes her neighbour is a total dick, but unfortunately that's not illegal!

    Yeah, I just realized my mistake. Sorry about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    CCTV maybe a good idea, they do specials in Lidl and Aldi now and again

    If this issue goes on I think you'll wake up one day with an almighty dent in your car.

    You know who did it but with no proof there is nothing you can do


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Not sure if trolling...but he's pushing his car up against OP's, where the violating is the wilful disrespect for his property and the property is the car.

    Being disrespectful isn't against the law, the cars may be touching but it's not causing any damage (for now). While it may be annoying I can't really see what the guards can do about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    I'd say the first course of action would be to go in and have a serious talk to them (in a non-aggressive, non-legalistic and non-threatening way).

    Parking that close to another car could scratch the paintwork (e.g. body coloured bumpers) and it could also make it very difficult to access the boot.

    If anyone's parked in front of you, it would also make it very difficult to manouver out.

    Is it possible they're just trying to really squeeze into a tight space?

    If that doesn't work, just fit an awkward tow bar to the rear of your car :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Andy454


    Well somebody that parks in this manner is goading you in to a response and may be liable under the:

    Prohibition of Incitement To Hatred Act, 1989

    They could also be charged with Road Rage.

    If it was me, I would call the guards, tell the neighbours not to move their car until they arrived.

    If they damage your car while moving theirs, they are responsible for the damage they've caused and once a guard witnesses it, they've no comeback.

    I'd make a point of taking their insurance details down before allowing them to remove the car.

    And if there was so much as a hair line mark from where their car was touching mine, I would run the gammot and demand at the very least the affected side to be totally resprayed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    When you initially took Half the space you were adopting a posture of weakness and sending the wrong message. It's a public road and you can park there. Then if they park a car out front at least it's blocking their whole drive entrance. If they want to be civil and respectful to you then you may revert to leaving them half the space.

    And let them park right up against your cars. It's a feeble response. It only effects you at a psychological level because you are allowing it to. They aren't going damage your cars.

    You can talk to the guy then - no aggression - but be assertive about it, he is 100% wrong in feeling they own that parking spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Andy454 wrote: »
    Well somebody that parks in this manner is goading you in to a response and may be liable under the:

    Prohibition of Incitement To Hatred Act, 1989

    They could also be charged with Road Rage.

    If it was me, I would call the guards, tell the neighbours not to move their car until they arrived.

    If they damage your car while moving theirs, they are responsible for the damage they've caused and once a guard witnesses it, they've no comeback.

    I'd make a point of taking their insurance details down before allowing them to remove the car.

    And if there was so much as a hair line mark from where their car was touching mine, I would run the gammot and demand at the very least the affected side to be totally resprayed.

    Is this supposed to be a funny response or are you actually serious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭athlonelad


    Park where you want. I wouldn't get into an argument with your neighbour as some people can be overly protective of what they think is theirs. He's probably been parking there for years and thinks that is enough to claim his territory. Park where you want on the road and don't be intimidated by his bully boy tactics.

    If he wants to park his car there when your car goes, let him. Trust me it is annoying him a lot more than you. I had a neighbour who used to put his bins in front of the house while he was away so nobody would take "his" spot. Another neighbour ended up parking there one day and it was like world war 3.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    Does the fact that it is the wife's car have any bearing on the situation? Women are not renowned for their driving skills in general, let alone their parking skills. Perhaps you could assist the wife in her parking endeavours?


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Andy454


    Deadly,

    A situation like this developed on my mothers road, the neighbours next door claimed the space in front of my mothers was there's, but there was no allocated parking on the development.

    They started blocking me in, I tolerated it once and told them to move, their daughter tried to block me in a second time and scuffed my bumper in the process.

    I caught her rapid and told her not to move, called the guards and sat on her bumper and made as much noise as possible so I got as many on lookers as possible, they noted the damage when she moved her car.

    I then got her insurance company to cough up the damage along with my very overpriced solicitor....

    She lost her no claims bonus for 5 years... she'll park properly in future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Did this thread get moved from After Hours? Half the responses make me look intelligent!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭nuac


    Sorry for anyone with parking trouble with neighbours.

    Try to talk it over, with an intermediary if necesssary.

    There is a lot of foolish advice on this thread.

    Chill folks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    That would be her drive way

    It sounds to me like nobody has a drive way but everyone wants to park in front of their own house. Think Ringsend or Stoneybatter. If this case no one has the right to park in a particular place on the street. It's just open season.

    This sort of thing went on for a long time in the last estate I lived in. It escalated with traffic cones and the like being left all over the road and cars parking on paths. Eventually someone called the clampers and almost everyone was clamped for having a tyre on the footpath, it stopped after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    It sounds to me like nobody has a drive way but everyone wants to park in front of their own house. Think Ringsend or Stoneybatter. If this case no one has the right to park in a particular place on the street. It's just open season.

    This sort of thing went on for a long time in the last estate I lived in. It escalated with traffic cones and the like being left all over the road and cars parking on paths. Eventually someone called the clampers and almost everyone was clamped for having a tyre on the footpath, it stopped after that.

    Sounds like that's needed around that estate near GCD. I don't mind people parking on the path (its a very wide path) despite having drives but it does p!ss me off when they block the path.

    Kudos to the Guard I saw cycling down the SCR who I stopped. Went back that way home and the three offending cards where gone. I suspect two of them having expired tax helped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Batman Lannister


    In response, yes there was an attempt at conversation and he started threatening, saying he'd "get people" after my family. To make it clear, I live in a park and there are driveways but there are cars in there already. His car in his, he does this with his wife's car, and my dad's car is in mine. We live in a semi-detached house and so, we share the outer wall where the footpath is and there's a black line of tarmac on the footpath. He made the rule that neither car can pass over that black line but he's breaking that rule. Mine is a few inches past that black line because after the whole threatening thing, I just didn't want to be involved anymore so I moved my car up so it blocks a bit of my driveway but now, he's moving his wife's car up past this black line and breaking his own rule, just to be awkward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,811 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    In response, yes there was an attempt at conversation and he started threatening, saying he'd "get people" after my family. To make it clear, I live in a park and there are driveways but there are cars in there already. His car in his, he does this with his wife's car, and my dad's car is in mine. We live in a semi-detached house and so, we share the outer wall where the footpath is and there's a black line of tarmac on the footpath. He made the rule that neither car can pass over that black line but he's breaking that rule. Mine is a few inches past that black line because after the whole threatening thing, I just didn't want to be involved anymore so I moved my car up so it blocks a bit of my driveway but now, he's moving his wife's car up past this black line and breaking his own rule, just to be awkward.

    Parking disputes between neighbours never end well. So just park legally and ignore him, it'll p!ss him off even more when you don't react, while keeping a record of his actions like parking too close to your cars.

    One thing to try may be for your dad to park on the road for a while, obaying his "rule". The neighbour may have a different attitude to a grown man than a girl


  • Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭misschoo


    I had a similar problem with a neighbour. They decided that they didn't want me parking in any one of the four spaces in front of their duplex - I live 4 doors away & she called up to me on a Sat night to ask me to move my car & start parking elsewhere.. I asked her was she saying it to other residents about parking elsewhere she said no just me. When I said there was no designated parking (my estate is a management property) and we can park anywhere she stormed off. A minute later her partner banged on my door and started to threaten me about what would happen and that I'd "better start watching" my car. I live by myself & I will not have people threatening me in my home - he actually walked into my hall when he said that so I called the Gardai & they came up within half an hour & went down & spoke to them & told them that there was no designated parking in the estate. I also phoned my management company on the Monday who also spoke to them & not a word out of them since. They've now moved thank god. I think that people shouldn't be able to bully you like that.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    In response, yes there was an attempt at conversation and he started threatening, saying he'd "get people" after my family. To make it clear, I live in a park and there are driveways but there are cars in there already. His car in his, he does this with his wife's car, and my dad's car is in mine. We live in a semi-detached house and so, we share the outer wall where the footpath is and there's a black line of tarmac on the footpath. He made the rule that neither car can pass over that black line but he's breaking that rule. Mine is a few inches past that black line because after the whole threatening thing, I just didn't want to be involved anymore so I moved my car up so it blocks a bit of my driveway but now, he's moving his wife's car up past this black line and breaking his own rule, just to be awkward.

    So your dad parks in the driveway and you park behind him slightly onto the footpath, and your neighbour and his wife do the same with their cars? Then if you move they park behind your dad?

    I'm finding imagining this very confusing


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