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Aldi - O'Shea's Irish Ale

  • 04-11-2012 11:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    Who makes O'Shea's Irish Ale/Stout for Aldi? Have a suspicion it's the Carlow Brewing Company - the fine makes of O'Hara's.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    It is Carlow, think it says it on the labels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Webster29


    Thanks. Checked the label but only says it's produced in Ireland for Aldi. Interesting that the same company makes own brand beers for both Aldi and M&S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    its very tasty also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Webster29 wrote: »
    Thanks. Checked the label but only says it's produced in Ireland for Aldi. Interesting that the same company makes own brand beers for both Aldi and M&S.

    There a quite a few companies that make own brand products for different companies. The companies just specify the recipe.

    As for O'Sheas, it's made by Carlow alright. It used to be in a smaller 330ml bottle called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale with Seamus O'Hara's pic on the back. Then they re-badged it to O'Sheas. I spoke to Seamus at the All Irish Beerfest and he confirmed that it's the same recipe and just a different bottle. Beautiful beer it is too! :)


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    How does the price compare to O'Hara's?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    How does the price compare to O'Hara's?

    I think (but I'm not a 100% sure) it's €1.79 a bottle. Which imo is fantastic value considering how good a beer it it.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Sounds like good value, will check it out next time I'm in an aldi

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Tesco and dunnes have done a price matvh and have O'Hara's Stout and Red for €1.78 each. Which is also fantastic value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Tesco and dunnes have done a price matvh and have O'Hara's Stout and Red for €1.78 each. Which is also fantastic value.

    Is the Stout Leann Follain or their other Irish Stout?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Is the Stout Leann Follain or their other Irish Stout?

    Oddly, Leann Follain tends to sell at the same price as their other beers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Oddly, Leann Follain tends to sell at the same price as their other beers.

    That always surprises me. I thought price was generally related to %?


    BEERNUT!!!?!?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    That always surprises me. I thought price was generally related to %?


    BEERNUT!!!?!?

    It should, stronger beers require more ingredients to get the % up and then after that they get taxed more. I'd assume O'Hara's put a higher price on it but the supermarkets price alongside the rest of the range because they reckon Irish drinkers won't factor the higher alcohol content into the price.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Beer pricing is (no pun intended) a dark art and all sorts of things are factors. If a beer is expensive, and you point this out to the person selling it, they'll give you answers like it's the strength, or it's the distance it has to travel, but really there are loads of other factors at play, like how much people will pay for it and how the brand's perception is affected by even temporary changes in retail price.

    I don't think it's really possible for someone outside the trade to take the price of any commodity and deconstruct it into its constituent elements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    That always surprises me. I thought price was generally related to %?

    It is usually, for the reasons IG stated but there is nothing to stop the producer/wholesaler/retailer from taking a hit on some of the stronger beers and making a bigger margin of the weaker beers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    But I thought the duty/tax was calculated on a percentage basis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    But I thought the duty/tax was calculated on a percentage basis?

    It is - that's only one element of the price you pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    It is - that's only one element of the price you pay.

    True. As Beernut says, unless you're the manufacturer there's now way to deduce what the costs are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Ruben Remus


    Oddly, Leann Follain tends to sell at the same price as their other beers.

    Not in Tesco it doesn't. The 'regular' O'Hara's stout and red ale (4.3% ABV) are €1.79 each, the pale ale (5.2%) and Leann Follain (6%) are both €2.79, though they can sometimes be purchased in a 5 for €10 deal. I think it's the same in Dunnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Not in Tesco it doesn't. The 'regular' O'Hara's stout and red ale (4.3% ABV) are €1.79 each, the pale ale (5.2%) and Leann Follain (6%) are both €2.79, though they can sometimes be purchased in a 5 for €10 deal. I think it's the same in Dunnes.

    Oh, I stand corrected.
    I was going by seeing them all together in the 5 for €10 deal.
    Bradley's in Cork also sell them all @ 4 for €10 - all the time


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Is the Stout Leann Follain or their other Irish Stout?

    The Irish Stout and Red ale only.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    In Dunnes and Tesco the Irish Red and Irish Stout are price matched to Aldi's O'Shea's Red and Stout, so unless Aldi up their prices Dunnes and Tesco will always match it I imagine.

    Which means you can always get 5 bottles of the Irish Stout or Red for €8.95 in any Tesco, Dunnes or Aldi (although Aldi is a different recipe).

    Happy days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    Just discovered O'Shea's Irish Pale Ale and Red Ale in Aldi and I'm very very happy to be drinking something which has real flavour and isn't imported!! :D

    Haven't tried the stout yet but will do so in a few days.

    Ben


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    O Hara's, the best thing to come out of Carlow, keep up the good work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    " Just discovered O'Shea's Irish Pale Ale and Red Ale in Aldi and I'm very very happy to be drinking something which has real flavour and isn't imported!! biggrin.png

    Haven't tried the stout yet but will do so in a few days "

    all 3 are very good and last i checked were sub 2 euro a pop? tesco /dunnes can struggle to hav 5 for 10. ( on a larger range granted) but for permenant prices brilliant. good one is dunnes is kaiserdom 6 for 7.
    k.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    O sheas ipa is a different recipe altogether to oharas says seamus ohara himself. Still all brewed by them though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭huskerdu


    I, too am a fan of the O'Sheas Irish Pale Ale. My minor whinge for the day, is that it is hard to get a lot of the time.
    The three O'Shea beers ( Stout, red ale, pale ale) are packed in mixed cases, with 4 of each in each case.

    In all 3 of my local Aldis, the Pale Ale sell much better than the other 2 beers. The shelves will be full of Red ale and Stout
    and the staff are often reluctant to open another box for me to get some Pale Ale when the shelves are full.

    I have asked staff why they cant get more and I have not got any response.

    I know I should make a proper complaint / comment to Aldi management some day soon,

    Anyway, that is my first world problem today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    Hi all,

    My local Aldi (Sandyford) hasn't had either of the O'Sheas ales or stout for almost two weeks. "Temporarily out of stock" is what the sign says over the shelf.

    Anyone know if these wonderful ales are soon to disappear all together? It's not like Aldi to stay out of stock of a well selling product for long. Is all not well between Aldi and O'Hara's???

    Ben


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    The stout won a Blas na hÉireann award at the weekend so I'd be surprised if it was suddenly taken off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    I've found Aldi to be inconsistent in stocking the O'Shea's beers. It must sell quite quickly - something I'd be inclined to believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭earlytobed


    adamski8 wrote: »
    O sheas ipa is a different recipe altogether to oharas says seamus ohara himself. Still all brewed by them though

    Is it the same recipe or not? BAZ reckons Seamus O Hara told him it is the same recipe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    earlytobed wrote: »
    Is it the same recipe or not? BAZ reckons Seamus O Hara told him it is the same recipe
    Not quite what I said. ;)

    BaZmO* wrote: »
    As for O'Sheas, it's made by Carlow alright. It used to be in a smaller 330ml bottle called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale with Seamus O'Hara's pic on the back. Then they re-badged it to O'Sheas. I spoke to Seamus at the All Irish Beerfest and he confirmed that it's the same recipe and just a different bottle. Beautiful beer it is too! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭earlytobed


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    There a quite a few companies that make own brand products for different companies. The companies just specify the recipe.

    As for O'Sheas, it's made by Carlow alright. It used to be in a smaller 330ml bottle called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale with Seamus O'Hara's pic on the back. Then they re-badged it to O'Sheas. I spoke to Seamus at the All Irish Beerfest and he confirmed that it's the same recipe and just a different bottle. Beautiful beer it is too! :)

    Sorry, here's the quote. Its the complete opposite to what adamski8 posted.

    Just curious, thats all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    earlytobed wrote: »
    Sorry, here's the quote. Its the complete opposite to what adamski8 posted.

    Just curious, thats all

    Are you purposely not getting it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Are you purposely not getting it?

    I dont get it either, did he tell you its the same recipe or not?

    None in Aldi Belgard yesterday either btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    O'Sheas is made by Carlow alright. However, it used to be in a smaller 330ml bottle called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale with Seamus O'Hara's pic on the back. Then they re-badged it to O'Sheas. I spoke to Seamus at the All Irish Beerfest and he confirmed that the O'Sheas is the same recipe as the previously called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale and just a different bottle.

    Hope that clears it up! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin


    I don't believe him.

    I was pretty much addicted to the 330 ml stuff.

    Didn't really like the re-badged version at all.

    O'Shea's pale ale is quality though. I'd take it over most bottled Irish session beers.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I've yet to hear anyone agree that the two beers are the same. I remember the 330 ml one as being much drier than the O'Shea's Red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    The Pale Ale and Stout are back on the shelf in my local Aldi but no sign of the Red. Not a bad start to the weekend I guess :p

    Ben


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    Is this a beer they have all the time, or just now and again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Lucena wrote: »
    Is this a beer they have all the time, or just now and again?

    All the time but they are frequently out of stock


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Lucena wrote: »
    Is this a beer they have all the time, or just now and again?

    All the time but they are frequently out of stock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,799 ✭✭✭cython


    adamski8 wrote: »
    All the time but they are frequently out of stock

    It's worth bearing in mind that if Aldi are out of stock, the O'Hara's red ale and "normal" stout are in Tesco for all of 6c more per bottle (€1.85), and aren't a bad alternative ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I don't believe him.

    I was pretty much addicted to the 330 ml stuff.

    Didn't really like the re-badged version at all.

    O'Shea's pale ale is quality though. I'd take it over most bottled Irish session beers.
    BeerNut wrote: »
    I've yet to hear anyone agree that the two beers are the same. I remember the 330 ml one as being much drier than the O'Shea's Red.

    Tbh, I don't believe him either. I used to drink the original one all the time, and was devastated when they stopped doing the 330ml bottles, although I did stock up on lots of them when they were selling them off at a reduced price :), but I just don't see how it's the same beer, I remember it being much sweeter with a roasted malt finish.

    At the 2011 Beerfest I asked one of the girls pouring beers at the O'Hara's stand why they had discontinued the original beer and she said that it was just a renaming of the beer, I wasn't convinced, but she was quite adamant that it was the same recipe. It wasn't until the 2012 Beerfest that I got talking to Seamus and he said the same thing. It's hard to see why they'd be telling porkies though.

    I'm actually sipping on a bottle of it now (all the talk of it made me go out and get some earlier!) and it's definitely not the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    cython wrote: »
    It's worth bearing in mind that if Aldi are out of stock, the O'Hara's red ale and "normal" stout are in Tesco for all of 6c more per bottle (€1.85), and aren't a bad alternative ;)

    Are they also 500ml bottles for €1.85?

    Ben


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭earlytobed


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    O'Sheas is made by Carlow alright. However, it used to be in a smaller 330ml bottle called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale with Seamus O'Hara's pic on the back. Then they re-badged it to O'Sheas. I spoke to Seamus at the All Irish Beerfest and he confirmed that the O'Sheas is the same recipe as the previously called Aldi Traditional Irish Ale and just a different bottle.

    Hope that clears it up! :)

    Thanks! I Have it now:) O Sheas= Aldi Traditional Irish Ale
    O Sheas not= OHaras
    Apologies to BaZmo and adamski8:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    BenThere wrote: »
    Are they also 500ml bottles for €1.85?

    Ben

    Yep, they've been at that price for the best part of a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Ruben Remus


    I don't believe him.

    I was pretty much addicted to the 330 ml stuff.

    Didn't really like the re-badged version at all.

    O'Shea's pale ale is quality though. I'd take it over most bottled Irish session beers.

    I agree with every word of this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    BenThere wrote: »
    Are they also 500ml bottles for €1.85?

    Ben

    Yup, bought 2 yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    At the risk of being shunned by those of you passionate about craft beers what do people think about Smightwicks Pale Ale and Winter Spirit? I had some of the Pale Ale last night and purchased a couple of bottles of the Winter Spirit. I liked the Pale Ale but find the Winter Spirit pretty underwhelming.

    Ben


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    BenThere wrote: »
    At the risk of being shunned by those of you passionate about craft beers what do people think about Smightwicks Pale Ale and Winter Spirit? I had some of the Pale Ale last night and purchased a couple of bottles of the Winter Spirit. I liked the Pale Ale but find the Winter Spirit pretty underwhelming.

    Ben
    If there is at least Smithwicks pale ale in the place I'm heading tonight then I'll be somewhat happy. It's not a bad drink in its own right.


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