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Spelling and grammar errors on CVs

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  • 04-11-2012 9:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 257 ✭✭


    I spent most of a last week at work interviewing a large number of candidates for new roles my company were advertising. The roles are junior positions and most of the applicants were in their early 20's. The candidates had to send in a CV and answer an online questionnaire prior the interview.

    The one thing that stood out to me was how many very basic spelling and grammar mistakes were made by the vast majority of applicants on their CVs and applications. Examples being candidates using i instead of I, spelling words like 'college' wrong and not using full stops.

    The majority of the candidates also had a third level education/qualification.

    Why has basic English spelling and grammar become so poor among today's youth? Is there as much focus on it in school as there used to be? Do young people think it even matters any more?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I think your been to hard on the applicants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Redlion


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I think your been to hard on the applicants.

    Unpossible!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Why has basic English spelling and grammar become so poor among today's youth? Is there as much focus on it in school as there used to be? Do young people think it even matters any more?
    I'm not sure that there is as much emphasis on it in the school system as previously, but I suspect the internet / texting / etc. are a major contributing factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Buck Fizz


    It's mainly because they're too lazy to even think before they write. And they don't care that they are making these mistakes either, whether it's on their CV or in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    I spent most of a last week at work interviewing a large number of candidates for new roles my company were advertising. The roles are junior positions and most of the applicants were in their early 20's. The candidates had to send in a CV and answer an online questionnaire prior the interview.

    The one thing that stood out to me was how many very basic spelling and grammar mistakes were made by the vast majority of applicants on their CVs and applications. Examples being candidates using i instead of I, spelling words like 'college' wrong and not using full stops.

    The majority of the candidates also had a third level education/qualification.

    Why has basic English spelling and grammar become so poor among today's youth? Is there as much focus on it in school as there used to be? Do young people think it even matters any more?
    What?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,067 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's the way of the world these days.. easier just to except it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Veiled Subtle look at me I have a job thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,749 ✭✭✭✭grey_so_what


    Look at the ad beside the "Quick Reply" box for "Instant Gramar Checker".........

    Is this your company??????......

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    spelling words like 'college' wrong

    Collitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Examples being candidates using i instead of I

    That should actually be:

    Examples being, candidates using i instead of I

    Don't be so anal in future if you yourself are prone to a grammatical error or two.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    People who don't get their CVs proof read by at least one person for obvious mistakes dont deserve an interview.

    It shows a casual attitude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,326 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Was once told about a British Army colonel who would ask prospective officer candidates to spell 'Mediterranean'. If they couldn't spell it they were out. It was harsh but fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    uberalles wrote: »
    People who don't get their CVs proof read by at least one person for obvious mistakes dont deserve an interview.

    It shows a casual attitude.
    You should try that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,220 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Although your use of "grammar mistakes" is not strictly incorrect, I find it inelegant. I would proffer "grammatical mistakes" as an alternative.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,154 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    My spelling is horrific now. I don't think I could survive without a spellcheck.

    Then again, what were the applicants typing their CV's on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    Even Bono's grammar is deplorable.

    'I still haven't found what I'm looking for'

    should read,

    'I still haven't found, that for which I am looking'

    There you go, much better.




    Idea for a thread, grammatically incorrect song titles, film titles, eh, maybe not....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    Search boards using the word "collage" and you'd be amazed at how often it is misspelled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Once upon a time children had spelling and grammar beaten into them, sometimes literally. Nowadays, I don't feel it's given as much emphasis in the UK and Ireland.

    My 'knowledge' of the English language is awful however. I couldn't tell you what an adjective or noun is etc. I tend to do alright because I read so much but I do struggle at times.

    Modern technology is also a curse. Children today rely more on their phones and computers to correct stuff as they go and I also have to admit it's affecting my spelling as well. I'm misspelling common words on paper like necessary and occassion and I often find myself typing American spellings so color, apologize and so forth.. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    That should actually be:

    Examples being, candidates using i instead of I

    Don't be so anal in future if you yourself are prone to a grammatical error or two.

    The comma isn't necessary.

    What would be necessary (strictly) would be quotation marks around both "i" and "I" to indicate that both words are being referred to as objects.

    I wouldn't expect that level of attention to detail in an online post though, so there are no problems in the OP from my perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    I don't believe for a second that college graduates writing CV's on word processors which will have an auto spell check would make such mistakes.

    I call bullshít.


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mod

    Lads, this is a thread about spelling errors on CVs. It's not an excuse to point out other posters' grammar or spelling mistakes - that is still against the charter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    9959 wrote: »
    Even Bono's grammar is deplorable.

    'I still haven't found what I'm looking for'

    should read,

    'I still haven't found, that for which I am looking'

    There you go, much better.

    He's singing in English, not Latin. Ending a sentence with a preposition is perfectly acceptable English these days. As are split infinitives.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    eth0 wrote: »
    Collitch.
    Only about 14% of third level students get that though, and there's a pretty good medicated ointment for it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    I used to cheat in my senior infants spelling tests.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Scioch wrote: »
    I don't believe for a second that college graduates writing CV's on word processors which will have an auto spell check would make such mistakes.

    I call bullshít.

    I've seen many such mistakes on CV's/CVs (the spelling of "curriculum vitae" seems to be a particularly sticky wicket) and in college essays. They're very common.

    I'd imagine some people don't know they have a spellcheck function available to them, are aware of it but don't think they've made any mistakes, or simply don't think about whether they've made any mistakes or not, because they're used to seeing words spelled/spelt in a variety of mostly incorrect ways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    Scioch wrote: »
    I don't believe for a second that college graduates writing CV's on word processors which will have an auto spell check would make such mistakes.

    I call bullshít.

    Bullsh1te ?


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scioch wrote: »
    I don't believe for a second that college graduates writing CV's on word processors which will have an auto spell check would make such mistakes.

    I call bullshít.

    Spellcheck only shows up words that do not exist. It will not point out that collage is not the correct spelling for college as collage is a word itself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    Scioch wrote: »
    I don't believe for a second that college graduates writing CV's on word processors which will have an auto spell check would make such mistakes.

    I call bullshít.

    How would a spellchecker know that "collage", for example, is incorrect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    I've seen many such mistakes on CV's/CVs (the spelling of "curriculum vitae" seems to be a particularly sticky wicket) and in college essays. They're very common.

    I'd imagine some people don't know they have a spellcheck function available to them, are aware of it but don't think they've made any mistakes, or simply don't think about whether they've made any mistakes or not, because they're used to seeing words spelled/spelt in a variety of mostly incorrect ways.

    I dont think I have ever used a word processor that didnt have it enabled by default though. In fact they auto correct misspellings dont they ? Lower case i's will be automatically fixed etc.

    They would have to ignore it all and I'd get a small percentage doing that as there is always a couple of numpties. But the vast majority of applicants ? Find that hard to believe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    should spelling and grammar matter though? in my book, as long as the person is qualified for the job and has experience their grammar doesnt matter


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