Settle this, ONCE AND FOR ALL ... Vote later this week.

Mr E

OK, so every month (week? ) we get at least one Wire vs. Sopranos vs. Breaking Bad vs. Dexter vs. Oz vs. a ton of other great shows. Those threads invariably fizzle out with comments along the lines of "You forgot X", or "No Y, poll fail" etc.

So here is what we'll do. We'll blow the cobwebs off the TV Awards forum and do this properly. We'll do the whole nominations gig, followed by a proper survey.

We will do "Best show of all time", that's a given. What else should we vote on? In addition to the main event, is there a case for separate polls for Best US Network Show and Best US Cable Show?

Best Comedy?
Best Sci-Fi Series?
Best Character in a US Drama (Network)?
Best Character in a US Drama (Cable)?
Best Show of the 70s/80s/90s/00s/10s?
Best UK Drama?

Give me some ideas and I'll start the ball rolling this week. Time to stop the endless polls and settle these arguments, once and for all.

Pea 9

Glenroe

FloatingVoter

Pea 9 wrote: »

Glenroe

In that spirit I feel "Leave It to Mrs O'Brien" is an overlooked classic.

Mr E

Guys don't nominate here. This thread is just to decide on what categories to vote for.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

The ones you've mentioned plus:

Best Drama
Best UK Comedy
Greatest Sitcom Character (possibly separated into US and UK categories)
Best Kids Show
Best Prime Time Cartoon
Best Fantasy Series
Best Actor
Best Actress
The Golden Oldie Award (ie. The Show you can watch again and again, and again, and again, and again, and again times infinity and it still remains to be genius... example. Father Ted)

don ramo

most loved bad guy
most hated good guy
most annoying wife
most annoying girlfriend (need to be separated between GF and wife)
best kid in a show
greatest TV scene ever (could be a massive category though)
best ending to a show
greatest season finale cliffhanger
worst season finale
best death
best intro

Richard Dower

best teen drama

ixoy

Best / Worst Theme Tune / Credits.
Most Over-rated / Under-rated Show.
Show With Biggest Ever Drop in Quality.

pixelburp

I think for balance the larger categories (Drama, Comedy, Sci-Fi?) should be split into US & Europe - otherwise things like The Killing (the EU version) or Luther might get lost amongst the glut of HBO stuff & US love-ins. Seems only fair?

So far the list seems cool, things that come to mind include:
Best Secondary character (not leads, but the side characters)
Best themetune
Most memorable arcs (not the best per se, just those with perhaps the greatest payoffs)
Best character death

Richard Dower

it started as a way to get rid of these flippin best of threads, but has evolved in a.....

BlaasForRafa

Splitting it into seperate US and UK/Europe/Australia sections seems sensible. There are an unholy number of categories you could have though.

Best sitcom
Best sketch-based comedy
Best Drama
Best Period-based Drama
Best Cop-show
Best Sci-fi
Best Childrens Drama
Best Childrens Comedy
You could have best actor/actress and supporting actor/actress for most of the above

Best Childrens Cartoon
Best Prime-time Cartoon
Best Soap-Opera
Best Day-time tv show
Best Reality tv show (a contradiction in terms but some people seem to like them)
Best Documentary Series
Best Documentary One-off
Best panel-based comedy show
Best Theme tune
Best news programme
Best News anchor
Best Chat show
Best Channel
Best Music show

JP Liz V1

Best One Season Hit Wonder show of all time (of course Firefly would walk it winning )

Best Opening Credits

Best Theme Tune

Best Male and Female Cameo

I think the only way to do this is to do it by decade and then do an overall best of.

wil

so are we to vote on the Best List of Categories ?

board sic ; ( )

Skid

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Splitting it into seperate US and UK/Europe/Australia sections seems sensible ...

If you are doing that, there should be an Irish section as well.

BlaasForRafa

Skid wrote: »

If you are doing that, there should be an Irish section as well.

Hahaha. Oh, were you being serious? There would probably be some fairly short shortlists for most categories when it comes to Irish tv production.

Skid

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Hahaha. Oh, were you being serious? There would probably be some fairly short shortlists for most categories when it comes to Irish tv production.

There have been plenty of decent Irish shows in different genres over the years.
It would be more appropriate to include them than have a series of polls for Australian programmes (few of which are broadcast legally over here)

pixelburp

I disagree: given British TV is in direct competition with the Irish channels, I don't think RTE should get special favour; US & non-US would surely be sufficient for a category split; besides, I suspect it would ignite huge arguments about what constituted things like Homegrown Comedies - would Father Ted?

Perhaps "Best Homegrown Irish Series" might suffice as a middle-ground instead?

pickarooney

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Best One Season Hit Wonder show of all time (of course Firefly would walk it winning )

It would walk in the dust of Freaks and Geeks you mean :P

Can we have a category for best time x quality show as in, ten seasons of greatness beats five years of greatness but also fifteen years of decent. I'm not explaining this well... call it the Seinfeld award.

jonski

Best Mini Series ?

Banjo

There needs to be a catagory for Best use of SciFi/Fantasy/Horror in a Drama, for example the ghost aborigine that lives at the bottom of the cliff in Summer Bay's caravan park, Bobby Ewing returning from the dead and erasing most but not all of the events of the past year, Fallon Carrington Colby getting abducted by Aliens, what appears to be the animated corpse of Maggie Smith haunting the drawing room of Downton Abbey, David Platt, that kind of thing. Seems to happen mostly in soaps to shake things up or see if the audience is still awake, and it needs to be commended when it does.

@CaptainNegative (below) - I'm fairly convinced that someone (might have been Colleen) fell down a cliff in Home and Away and they were rescued by an aborigine who turned out to be a ghost, but it's possible that was a dream. Damned if I can find a reference to it online though

PirateShampoo

Best Anti-Hero?

Also Starring LeVar Burton

^When did that happen in Home and Away? Stopped watching in about 2005, but I don't remember that storyline. Was it recent?

stevenmu

Single best episode of a show, ever.

Cancelled show we'd most like to see brought back to life.

Show we'd most like to see remade/rebooted (for the guaranteed controversy).

VinLieger

Best animated show instead of prime time cartoon

Sinfonia

ixoy wrote: »

Most Over-rated / Under-rated Show.

As more people call a show overrated, it becomes less overrated.
As more people call a show underrated, it becomes less underrated.

Therefore these awards should be given to the candidate with the fewest votes, or perhaps in fact a show that doesn't even get nominated :P

BlaasForRafa

Sinfonia wrote: »

As more people call a show overrated, it becomes less overrated.
As more people call a show underrated, it becomes less underrated.

Therefore these awards should be given to the candidate with the fewest votes, or perhaps in fact a show that doesn't even get nominated :P

I vote for the testcard as most underrated programme.

Mr E

First group now accepting nominations. Have fun!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=485

Gypsy Roman

Best theme tune

Mr E

Gypsy Roman wrote: »

Best theme tune

Yup, that'll be in the next batch.

PeterStrauss The Second

Best episode of Community :pac:

phasers

VinLieger wrote: »

Best animated show instead of prime time cartoon

This please, there are some amazing 'kids' cartoons out there that deserve recognition.

pixelburp

Best / Worst Richard Dower Thread.

Richard Dower

pixelburp wrote: »

Best / Worst Richard Dower Thread.

That would need several rounds to complete....;)

jonski

Tell them to stop nominating Band Of Brothers or I won't be able to vote for anything else .

Surely everyone knows that that was in a different league entirely and would win all polls ......... I think it was even leading in the presidential election polls in America ............... it even beats Atari Jaguar .

Goldstein

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Best Anti-Hero?

Good shout ^

A few interesting ones are coming to mind already.

We need a category for best use of music in a series, so many of the best moments of television owe a debt to the song that accompanied them.

Just two examples of great scenes where the music just made it. SPOILERS CONTAINED IN BOTH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SO40ansNU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAXnJaaepU

Goldstein

Darko wrote: »

We need a category for best use of music in a series, so many of the best moments of television owe a debt to the song that accompanied them.

Very true. Even putting the voting aside I'd really enjoy reading through / watching / contributing to that thread. So often an inspired choice of score/track/piece of music can elevate a great scene up to one you will remember forever.

Goldstein

Goldstein wrote: »

Very true. Even putting the voting aside I'd really enjoy reading through / watching / contributing to that thread. So often an inspired choice of score/track/piece of music can elevate a great scene up to one you will remember forever.

One step ahead of you

Richard Dower

Mr E wrote: »

OK, so every month (week? ) we get at least one Wire vs. Sopranos vs. Breaking Bad vs. Dexter vs. Oz vs. a ton of other great shows. Those threads invariably fizzle out with comments along the lines of "You forgot X", or "No Y, poll fail" etc.

So here is what we'll do. We'll blow the cobwebs off the TV Awards forum and do this properly. We'll do the whole nominations gig, followed by a proper survey.

We will do "Best show of all time", that's a given. What else should we vote on? In addition to the main event, is there a case for separate polls for Best US Network Show and Best US Cable Show?

Best Comedy?
Best Sci-Fi Series?
Best Character in a US Drama (Network)?
Best Character in a US Drama (Cable)?
Best Show of the 70s/80s/90s/00s/10s?
Best UK Drama?

Give me some ideas and I'll start the ball rolling this week. Time to stop the endless polls and settle these arguments, once and for all.

I hope you include a Best Teen Drama in an upcoming poll?

Dawson's Creek will probably win though....

Mr E

I'll be closing the current batch tonight at about 9pm, and I'll put the second batch up then. Last chance to nominate if you haven't already.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=485

ixoy

Richard Dower wrote: »

I hope you include a Best Teen Drama in an upcoming poll?

Just call it the Richard Dower poll for ease of identification

I'll also echo a greatest use of music in a scene. That or have a category for Best Original Score (as opposed to soundtrack). Love to see a place where we could nominate Bear's BSG score for example.

Mr E

Second lot is up now.

I was going to stop here, but I might do a small third lot with some of the quirkier suggestions later on this week. I'm just worried that I'll get 20 individual single nominees for some of them....

VinLieger

How about a best score/soundtrack thing? mainly because avatar has to win it hands down and ill be damned if it doesnt get at least one award

Mr E

Wrapping this batch up tomorrow.

Best Network/Ad Supported Cable Drama category is very light at the moment. Needs more noms!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056805627

don ramo

any new rounds of nominations, if so id like to put forward the best single season of a tv show, im on about a multi season shows, but just really stand out seasons, like season 4 of dexter or 7 of the west wing ETC ETC,

it would be interesting to see what people consider the best season of TV ever, see if the best show ever also get best season,

Mr E

Sorry I've been busy this week. I'll do another batch this evening.

jonski

+ Best Mini Series EVER ............. so I can vote Lonesome Dove , then probably change my vote to Band Of Brothers which I will have voted for in every other category .

Mr E

6 final categories up now. Survey will go up early next week.

don ramo

any movement on this MR E

Mr E

Sorry DR, still counting nominees.

In the regular annual awards, there might be 5-10 featured shows per category, and it's easy to pick the top 6 to go through for the vote.

For some of these categories, there are 40+ different nominees (sometimes more), which I still have to catalogue and count. Pretty time consuming.