If the UK breaks up...how about a Celtic union?

LincolnsBeard

A union between Ireland/Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales?

All have similar population numbers and political aspirations. Not to mention strong cultural ties.

Do you think it could work?

Tombi!

Rangers/Rovers

Good luck with that.

LincolnsBeard

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Rangers/Rovers

Good luck with that.

Keltic, not Seltic.

Celly Smunt

Dear god no,we already have a big enough black hole of an economy.

im invisible

in before...

billybudd

Unions cause us enough problems and you want more?

Stained Class

No.

Batterd Mars Bars & a Battered Economy.

A marriage made in Hell!

poeticseraphim

No.......And I mean NO.
What a silly idea.
There is some Anti Irish /Catholic sentiment in Scotland...and why ??? We are apart of the EU.

There is really no cultural ties. I was in Scotland over the summer and England they have no real ties with Ireland and they do with England.

It makes no sense. Anyway I don't think Scottish independence will happen.


And why would we join another union..we fought for independence..no

We have little in common...lovely countries but no


Why is there so much about unions recently the EU the UK?? Whats up???

LincolnsBeard

poeticseraphim wrote: »

Why is there so much about unions recently the EU the UK?? Whats up???

Just pondering the question no need to get your knickers in a twist there buddy.

squod

No. Fuhken. Way.

DonLimon

Nice idea but it wouldn't have any real benefit assuming that each country stays within the EU, if there's no trade taxes or visa restrictions already then whats the point of a union? Besides England will always will always be the largest trade partner for all countries concerned.

Kylo Ren

I hope the UK don't break up bbz. They were a lovely couple. Mwah xxx

efb

Poverty^3

magick

I think it would be a good and interesting idea.
Would it work? probably not.

stoneill

You would only have the Picts and the Caledones at each others throat, while the Gauls would be off robbing everyone blind.

MadsL

But the Irish are not Celts.

fasttalkerchat

Why not have strong co-operation between each of the independent countries? England included.

Isn't that just replacing England with Ireland in the existing UK, even if you weren't to call it that? Sure why don't we take Cornwall off them and all just to spite the fcukers:pac:

mikemac1

If it means Irn-Bru on Irish shelves then I'm for it

Richard Hillman

poeticseraphim wrote: »

No.......And I mean NO.
What a silly idea.
There is some Anti Irish /Catholic sentiment in Scotland...and why ??? We are apart of the EU.

facking hell, that's bizarre even for AH standards

BBDBB

yes and then we can invite England, France Spain and all the other European Nations to join our union too..........everyone but the Chermans, they can have their own union

megafan

Could you imagine if it did happen.....? 1st thing on the agenda would be the split!

ejmaztec

BBDBB wrote: »

yes and then we can invite England, France Spain and all the other European Nations to join our union too..........everyone but the Chermans, they can have their own union

It would be a great shame to let the Germans waste all that hard cash on themselves. We'd be doing them a favour if we asked them to join. It would give them a warm glow thinking how charitable they would be.

wendell borton

What about Brittany, Cornwall and the isle of man.

raymann

all opinion polls point towards a no vote for independence by scotland anyway. it appears that an independent scotland would need to use the euro so would effectively hand over powers from london to brussels. with the crisis thats going on at the moment, in a couple if years, a much more federal europe could result in all member states having much less power over their taxes than they have at the moment. ironically we have contributed to that as much as anyone.

there is a strong pro independence undercurrent amongst irish people because its seen as a slight on england. personally i think a broke up uk results in a worse trading environment for ireland so i am against it. thankfully it appears the scots are as well.

this beggar thy neighbor mentality that so many irish have sits alongside gombeenism and parish pump politics as to the main reasons why me and many, many other young dynamic people are not living in ireland right now.

D-Generate

Ireland and Scotland are worlds apart for a union. In general you will find a greater acceptance for Irish people by English people rather than by Scottish people. On the whole the Scottish populace would have a much closer relationship with the Unionist communities of Northern Ireland.

gurramok

D-Generate wrote: »

Ireland and Scotland are worlds apart for a union. In general you will find a greater acceptance for Irish people by English people rather than by Scottish people. On the whole the Scottish populace would have a much closer relationship with the Unionist communities of Northern Ireland.

Not true. Some Scots have a close relationship with Unionists in NI, some Scots have close relationship with Irish people in all of Ulster and some Scots have zero relationship with either side. Its this latter bunch who are the driving force behind the SNP.

gobnaitolunacy

The trouble with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.

Dyr

raymann wrote: »

the main reasons why me and many, many other young dynamic people are not living in ireland right now.

I'd say you'd ride yourself if ye could

Crucifix

Call it Greatest Britain, just to troll them.

ballsymchugh

LincolnsBeard wrote: »

Keltic, not Seltic.

actually, it's really Seltic....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/may/30/theknowledge.sport

Apolloyon

Actually a Celtic Union would be very confusing to the current Unionist population. So in that case...let's do it!:D

Jester252

If Ireland and Northern Ireland can fully work together and get over the history that would more then likely be the closes this idea will ever go

youreadthat

LincolnsBeard wrote: »

A union between Ireland/Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales?

All have similar population numbers and political aspirations. Not to mention strong cultural ties.

Do you think it could work?

The Celts were all over Europe so I think you mean a European wide Union, which is of course absurd. :pac:

woodoo

No i wouldn't like that idea at all. Strangely if we were to get on with any of those countries then i think it would most likely be England. Apart from the irish decended scots the scottish wouldn't be all that bothered about us. I don't know anything about Wales. NI we know all about and large sections of that society want nothing to do with us.

DEFTLEFTHAND

So it would be like the UK is now only England trades places with ROI.

kerry_man

You mean kilt wearing Morris Dancers? You can't be serious!

Dravokivich

LincolnsBeard wrote: »

A union between Ireland/Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales?

All have similar population numbers and political aspirations. Not to mention strong cultural ties.

Do you think it could work?

You do know the Scots want to be themselves and not associated with the UK? What makes you think they'd be associated with an Ire/Wal/Scot bastardisation of the UK?

mikemac1 wrote: »

If it means Irn-Bru on Irish shelves then I'm for it

It is on Irish shelves. Dunnes sell it in Blanch. Seen it in a few newsagents around Dublin as well.

Glassheart

Give me a Union with the English/Welsh over the religion obsessed yokels of Scotland any day.We have nothing in common with those people.

EReid

It would just cause more trouble

steddyeddy

I would rather closer ties between the united states and Ireland tbh.

LivelineDipso

Canute II - this time it's personal.

LivelineDipso

steddyeddy wrote: »

I would rather closer ties between the united states and Ireland tbh.

Why? I hear Irish people say this now and again and having lived and worked in the USA for many years I can tell you it is not a happy society. Brainwashed maybe, but not at all happy. We are more psychologically healthy here.

UCDVet

I'm pretty sure there was a historical documentary that talked about this. It was very interesting. Let me see if I can find the name.

Witcher

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

The trouble with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.

Damn Scots..they ruined Scotland!

golden lane

BBDBB wrote: »

yes and then we can invite England, France Spain and all the other European Nations to join our union too..........everyone but the Chermans, they can have their own union

as england is....celts saxons normans......it was the eu before the eu.....

admiralofthefleet

Stained Class wrote: »

No.

Batterd Mars Bars & a Battered Economy.

A marriage made in Hell!

dont forget the deep fried pizza.

steddyeddy

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Why? I hear Irish people say this now and again and having lived and worked in the USA for many years I can tell you it is not a happy society. Brainwashed maybe, but not at all happy. We are more psychologically healthy here.

I lived there myself and I agree with you but it really depends what part of the states you'r talking about. It would'nt be bad to have them in our corner sometimes. Imagine how different things could be in terms of the bank depth with America on our side!

poeticseraphim

England is the best bit of the UK, why have the rest without it?

It would be like saying, 'Do you want the Republic of Ireland, except for Leinster?'.

The UK subsidizes Northern Ireland,Wales and Scotland.

Scotland does get more from UK net public than it puts back in revenue so it does get subsidies.

Years ago Welsh miners supported the British economy and Wales was a net contributor but when the mining industry collapsed and now Britain subsidizes the Welsh economy too. In fact Wales is one of the poorest regions of the UK.


England is the wealth of the UK and London is the wealth of England. They went in to take natural resources then ended up being drained by them when those resources ran out or industry changed and no longer needed them. America take note.

To be honest I think England has ideological and cultural issues which prevent it from turning outside poorer regions around.


If Scotland wants independence because it feels it will always be dependent on England if it cannot invest where they feel it is needed for them to be economically independent then it will be sometime indeed before a Union would be beneficial to us.


There is no point in a Union with the 'UK' without England.

Independence allows countries to become economically independent. Any kind of union necessitates some kind of economic interdependence. It is usually the case that the richer region gets natural resources or political power in exchange for economic support. but if it is not run with equality and with the interests of all involved represented soon one or more regions will become a drain.


Anyway the 'Little Englanders' will have independence and the EU will be one nation before Scotland goes for independence i think.

The Radiator

LincolnsBeard wrote: »

A union between Ireland/Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales?

All have similar population numbers and political aspirations. Not to mention strong cultural ties.

Do you think it could work?

Screw England! We'll start our own union, with BlackJack and hookers



In fact, forget the Blackjack.



And the union

IvySlayer

Nobody wants Wales :P