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It looks like China could be reviewing their one child policy.

  • 01-11-2012 01:00AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    A Chinese government think tank has urged the country's leaders to start phasing out its one-child policy immediately and allow two children for every family by 2015. The unpopular restriction - which has been in place since 1980 - has led to millions fewer births, but also contributed to the ageing of China's huge population. The proposal is being given extra weight because it has been put forward by the China Development Research Foundation which is close to the government's central leadership.

    Maybe this could be an indication that they are considering expanding their borders.:eek:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225709/Is-China-scrap-child-policy-Government-think-tank-urges-leaders-allow-children-family-2015.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    A Chinese government think tank has urged the country's leaders to start phasing out its one-child policy immediately and allow two children for every family by 2015. The unpopular restriction - which has been in place since 1980 - has led to millions fewer births, but also contributed to the ageing of China's huge population. The proposal is being given extra weight because it has been put forward by the China Development Research Foundation which is close to the government's central leadership.

    Maybe this could be an indication that they are considering expanding their borders.:eek:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225709/Is-China-scrap-child-policy-Government-think-tank-urges-leaders-allow-children-family-2015.html

    haha. I love your jump in logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,439 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Seriously, is everything a conspiracy to you?
    When you order a sandwich in a shop, do you look around with shifty eyes and keep saying "I'm on to you!".....?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Someone should warn Tibet..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    sure they all look the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭petersburg2002


    Thought 1.4 billion would have been enough. I know men outnumber women there, but let's face it, they do have a few hundred million prospective partners to chose from. And rich people already have several children in China. They simply pay the fines.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Seriously, is everything a conspiracy to you?
    When you order a sandwich in a shop, do you look around with shifty eyes and keep saying "I'm on to you!".....?

    I make my own sandwiches. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,239 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Maybe this could be an indication that they are considering expanding their borders.:eek:

    China is less densely populated than the UK.
    They don't read the Daily Mail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭petersburg2002


    Pherekydes wrote: »

    China is less densely populated than the UK.
    They don't read the Daily Mail.

    They can invade Australia. That's less densely populated than the UK too. And they already have cousins there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    You see this:
    A Chinese government think tank has urged the country's leaders to start phasing out its one-child policy immediately and allow two children for every family by 2015. The unpopular restriction - which has been in place since 1980 - has led to millions fewer births, but also contributed to the ageing of China's huge population. The proposal is being given extra weight because it has been put forward by the China Development Research Foundation which is close to the government's central leadership.

    and infer this:
    Maybe this could be an indication that they are considering expanding their borders.:eek:

    Here's a conspiracy theory: maybe RTDH is a paranoid delusional? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I make my own sandwiches. :)

    But are you sure its free range lettuce?


    Ignoring the "OMG dem dere chineasy want de land" bit.

    Sure china has a masive population, but I'm sure India is has matched it as this stage.
    Maybe restrict families to having two kids as mentioned. Less chance of the unwanted girls ending up orphanages or getting dumped at birth.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    They can invade Australia. That's less densely populated than the UK too. And they already have cousins there.
    Not to mention Africa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    g'wan the china


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    RTDH conspiring to expand conspiracy theories forum into other parts of boards.ie....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭petersburg2002


    Invasions aside, a lot of 'little emperors' are going to be mightily pissed off at having to share the inheritance with a new sibling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Great, more savages to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo



    Cameron's just pissed off that unlike Britain, the Chinese are investing in Africa rather than pillaging it for all it's worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    sdeire wrote: »
    Cameron's just pissed off that unlike Britain, the Chinese are investing in Africa rather than pillaging it for all it's worth.

    The Chinese are pillaging it for all it's worth.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I still don't understand how they can justify this restriction and why human rights haven't jumped on it in 30 years
    Have they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,536 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I make my own sandwiches. :)

    Perhaps you should make em with lithium sandwich spread ;)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    unkel wrote: »
    Perhaps you should make em with lithium sandwich spread ;)

    I tried that before but then I went back to the thermal paste for flavour

    Tasty tasty thermal pasty


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭portumnadaz


    Its the only way to delay the inevitable revolution. they have a pop that is getting older with half the pop to support them. their economy will go tits up trying to cope with the support for old folks like every other country. its a delay tactic at best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Population_density_and_distribution
    While China is the most populated country in the world, its national population density (137/km2) is not very high, similar to those of Switzerland and the Czech Republic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Thought most of them were relocating to Athlone?

    Grand bunch o'lads anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    India looks set to overtake China as the world's most populous country within 20 years or so. It's population is now about 1.22 billion. That gives it a demographic advantage in the form of a larger share of the population being of working age, but it is likely to face problems similar to those of China some decades down the road.:cool:

    The Chinese have known for quite a while that their one-child policy has put their demographic structure way out of kilter and there are already many exceptions to the policy. It is likely to be relaxed further in the fairly near future.:)

    When President Hu was asked if they had elections in China, he replied: "Yes, vely big ploblem. Too many elections evely night --- ":eek:

    OK, I'll get my coat.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    I think the law is generally accepted in China, probably given that its been there for so long. If you have more than one child you pay tax against that child - twins are exempt. Maybe they see it as a better choice than famine.

    I think Japan has the same problem with the future demographics and the size of the workforce against those unable to work.

    I have heard some nasty stories about the Chinese enforcing the law, not sure if they're true or not. Probably pinch of salt stuff.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Its the only way to delay the inevitable revolution. they have a pop that is getting older with half the pop to support them. their economy will go tits up trying to cope with the support for old folks like every other country. its a delay tactic at best
    Yep. It's not their only problem either, but it's a biggie. They're getting older before they're getting richer. No economy has survived such a shift. They're closing down primary schools to beat the band and the number of Chinese expected to enter third level is likely to near halve by 2014. On top of that they have the largest commodities bubble in world history. If you thought Irelands building boom/tulip mania/bubble was bad? Oi vey, China is fooked on that score. They're building ghost cities. They get some headlines outside China, but the more worrying thing is the towns that have grown into cities in the last decade where the majority of revenue generated is in property; construction, developers, landlords, housing services etc. Sure sign you're in a building boom? Tile and bathroom emporiums. Sound familiar? I read some stats a while back from their governments own power company and it showed something daft like 300,000 apartments hadn't used electricity in the previous six months. That's cos they're empty. Maybe the Chinese will get around this? I dunno though. I doubt it. The increasing divide between the peasants, the old one hundred names and the urban rich could be another major flashpoint for the society.
    I have heard some nasty stories about the Chinese enforcing the law, not sure if they're true or not. Probably pinch of salt stuff.
    I read an interesting book from an American chap who lived in China for many years who decided to drive their "route 66) across China. Being fluent in the language helped him get some insight. One episode on a bus in the hinterlands referenced what you're talking about. Two state nurses were discussing very late, near term abortions as if they were nothing and got quite nonplussed at the westerner's look of horror, but quickly clammed up knowing how it would be perceived.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    eth0 wrote: »
    The Chinese are pillaging it for all it's worth.

    Probably apocryphal, but I've read that most Africans are none too pleased with the way the Chinese are operating in their countries.

    When the British came, they were b@st@rds, but you get on in the world with them: they built schools, and so on, so there were some kind of prospects, poor though they were.

    When the Americans came, they were also b@st@rds, but they paid well.

    When the Chinese came, they brought their own people with them. Can't even get a job from them!

    I also remember reading a while back about some bigwig in the Chinese military (oh how I wish I could find the link) opining that China really needed a naval base closer to Africa, what with so much of their business being there, and so much threat to their trade from Somali pirates etc. I was struck by the irony of it...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I still don't understand how they can justify this restriction and why human rights haven't jumped on it in 30 years
    Have they?

    Initially their population was expanding at a rate greater then they'd be able to support. The problem now is they have to tweak the birth rate to sustain the older population.

    It makes sense to implement what they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Wibbs wrote: »

    I read an interesting book from an American chap who lived in China for many years who decided to drive their "route 66) across China. Being fluent in the language helped him get some insight. One episode on a bus in the hinterlands referenced what you're talking about. Two state nurses were discussing very late, near term abortions as if they were nothing and got quite nonplussed at the westerner's look of horror, but quickly clammed up knowing how it would be perceived.

    China Road, isn't it? Excellent book, but I thought he was English...?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    :eek: If all the Chinese decide to fornicate at the one time when this policy is dropped, the resulting vibrations of all that banging could create a seismic shift that could realign countries. Fingers crossed we'll end up somewhere around Hawaii. You go Nung Sun Choo, bang her good.


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