Nuclear Power Plant near Dublin to get massive boost !

Lapin

Just a shame its on the wrong side of the Irish Sea.

Wylfa power station near Holyhead, Wales is set to benefit from a multi billion pound investment involving the creation of thousands of jobs.

Its a pity we didn't build a nuclear power station back in the 70s when we had the chance. Instead of caving in to the scare mongerers, prophets of doom and tree huggers, we would now be enjoying the benefits of cleaner and cheaper electricity.

It would have paid for itself by now and likely be attracting the kind of investment Wylfa is about to receive. Wouldn't a €10 billion+ boost and an extra 6,000 jobs be the perfect shot in the arm this country needs right now ?

What a shame all that cash is been spent just 64 miles away from Dublin.


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Summary - BBC News

Wylfa nuclear plant: Political leaders welcome Hitachi deal


Welsh political leaders have welcomed confirmation that Hitachi is to buy nuclear project Horizon which includes plans for a new reactor on Anglesey.

Welsh Secretary David Jones called it a "huge boost" while First Minister Carwyn Jones said it was "very good news for Wales and the UK".

Up to 6,000 jobs could be created while the new reactors are built at Wylfa.

The Horizon development aims to build a new £8bn nuclear power station at Wylfa on the island.

"This is by any standards excellent news not just for Anglesey but for the whole of north Wales," said the Welsh secretary.

"It's going to mean a major construction project with about 5,000 to 6,000 jobs created, about 1,200 long-term high-quality jobs and a huge boost not only to the economy of Anglesey but of course to the whole of the UK energy sector."

He had previously said that securing a new nuclear station on Anglesey was "critical" to his economic efforts.

BOHtox

it's pronounced nu-cular

grey_so_what

Well, Lapin...........

You know how to get a girl's attention with that thread.......

And then let her down with a "Boom"!!!!!!!

Chuck Stone

Counter-cyclical deficit spending.

Wacker The Attacker

Duke Sellafield

CrazyRabbit

They are not as 'cheap' and 'clean' as they are made out to be. Nuclear power plants are often heavily subsidized.

Also (blatantly stolen from wikipedia):

One of the big problems with nuclear power is the enormous upfront cost. These reactors are extremely expensive to build. While the returns may be very great, they're also very slow. It can sometimes take decades to recoup initial costs

&

In 2011, Benjamin K. Sovacool said that: "When the full nuclear fuel cycle is considered - not only reactors but also uranium mines and mills, enrichment facilities, spent fuel repositories, and decommissioning sites - nuclear power proves to be one of the costliest sources of energy".

So no thanks.

marcsignal

Built in Wylfa, because David Cameron doesn't live near there...........

squod

Lapin wrote: »

Instead of caving in to the scare mongerers, prophets of doom and tree huggers, we would now be enjoying the benefits of cleaner and cheaper electricity.

We could have real cheap wind pumped hydro 'leccy if it wasn't for those pesky FG/FF voters. The place is full of windy hilly lakey places to drop them onto.

We don't need nuclear, we need voters who are less stupid.

Lapin

Lapin wrote: »

we would now be enjoying the benefits of cleaner and cheaper electricity.

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

They are not as 'cheap' and 'clean' as they are made out to be.

Ah but hang on there, you see

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Actually no - forget it.

If I start debating with you, others will inevitably make smart comments about our usernames and drive the pair of us mad.

Lapin

squod wrote: »

We could have real cheap wind pumped hydro 'leccy ...... The place is full of windy hilly lakey places to drop them onto.....

So is Wales.

WindSock

BOHtox wrote: »

it's pronounced nu-cular

Pffft. I don't even know what a nuclear panner plant is,

squod

Lapin wrote: »

So is Wales.

Handy for the 'aul nuclear weapons. They have nuclear reprocessing plant there too. We have no such need as this place is too expensive to invade.

Ebbs

People debating costs.... The thread clearly states Hitachi bought the project. So we dont need to care about costs, the more initial costs of the project...the better. The longer it takes to generate profitability...the better. The longer it takes to build...the better.

Economics is obviously not a strong point but large multi nationals investing money in Ireland is always a good thing. 64miles away from Dublin... The fall out would reach us more than likely anyway...may aswell have it here than there.

Plus my TV is hitachi...It's a pretty nice Tv too.

PaddyORuadhan

Three mile Island

Chernobyl

Fukushima

Nuclear... no thank you.

Accidents don't happen often but when they do... they are dooozies!

Anyone still have their government issued iodine packs

Capt'n Midnight

£8Bn to create 1,200 long term jobs. that's only 6.66 million per job.

Any idea of the power output so we can get a £/MW figure ?

for the money they are spending on a few nukes they could get this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/20/severn-estuary-tidal-power-project

It is worth noting that after 25-30 years, when the price support drops away, the barrage will produce electricity virtually for free for at least another 90 years; this compares favourably with the lifespans of nuclear plants (35 years) and wind turbines (20-25 years)."

The BBC reported on Sunday that it is anticipated that much of the funding would come from investors in Kuwait and Qatar.

Lapin

PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

Three mile Island

Chernobyl

Fukushima

Nuclear... no thank you.

Wylfa has been there knocking out power for over 40 years without incident.

Chances are most of us have never heard of it.

So its a bit late to be saying no thanks at this stage.

bohboh

i know its unlikely, but if there is ever a melt down or terrorist attack that causes a melt down would this mean that Dublin would have to be abandoned , does the radiation go that far, Jesus image that, no more Dublin.

Capt'n Midnight

Lapin wrote: »

Wylfa has been there knocking out power for over 40 years without incident.

Without incident.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/accident-at-wylfa-costs-power-firm-pounds-250000-fine-1601099.html

Nuclear Electric was fined pounds 250,000 by a Crown Court judge yesterday with pounds 138,00 costs for safety breaches after it took nine hours to shut down a nuclear reactor following an accident

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2009/11/13/two-firefighters-suspended-over-wylfa-fire-no-show-55578-25157300/

TWO senior firefighters were rapped after they didn’t turn out to lead their crew to a blaze at a nuclear power station.

The crew at Holyhead fire station sat waiting for their command officers as a blaze forced the closure a reactor at Wylfa power station nearby

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-14015784

A turbine at the Wylfa nuclear power station had to be turned off following an electrical fault, it has emerged.
...
A fire was also reported the plant in October 2010 but did not lead to a loss of outage

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-wylfa-1-nuclear-unit-104514545.html

LONDON, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Reactor 1 at Britain's Wylfa nuclear power plant went offline on Wednesday after an electrical fault on a piece of non-nuclear equipment, operator Magnox said

http://www.nda.gov.uk/sites/wylfa/

One or more RIDDOR reportable events in the month

Lapin

Minor little things ^^^

refusetolose

would it be a good target for someone with a disliking to ireland?

tuxy

bohboh wrote: »

i know its unlikely, but if there is ever a melt down or terrorist attack that causes a melt down would this mean that Dublin would have to be abandoned , does the radiation go that far, Jesus image that, no more Dublin.

It's about 120 km from Dublin so I doubt it. For example the exclusion zone around Chernobyl is 30km. But Dublin would still get a considerable amount of radiation depending on what way the wind was blowing.

Capt'n Midnight

Lapin wrote: »

Minor little things ^^^

You said "40 years without incident" which was factually inaccurate.

You did not say 40 years with incidents like repeated plant shutdowns , fires and glaring deficiencies in such basic stuff as "how to turn off a reactor" or "should we do something about that fire ?"

Did you claim that there were no incidents because you didn't know about them or because you didn't care about them ?

I'm tired of the nuclear industry continually admitting "it's a little worse than we told you at the last press conference" You're constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.


Oh there was this incident earlier this month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-19797030

Inquiries have got under way after Reactor 1 at the Wylfa nuclear power station on Anglesey was stopped due to a problem with refuelling work.

marcsignal

...a must watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOA7lphvVY

Mr Benevolent

PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

Three mile Island

Chernobyl

Fukushima

Nuclear... no thank you.

Accidents don't happen often but when they do... they are dooozies!

Anyone still have their government issued iodine packs

Oh for f*cks sake get some perspective.

Son Of A Vidic

You obviously meant to say...

Lapin wrote: »

What a shame all that cash is not being been spent just on a site that is at least 64 6400 miles away from Dublin.

Capt'n Midnight

tuxy wrote: »

It's about 120 km from Dublin so I doubt it. For example the exclusion zone around Chernobyl is 30km. But Dublin would still get a considerable amount of radiation depending on what way the wind was blowing.

If Holyhead was out of action, how much would extra would suppliers charge for deliveries here ?

Lapin

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You said "40 years without incident" which was factually inaccurate.

You did not say 40 years with incidents like repeated plant shutdowns , fires and glaring deficiencies in such basic stuff as "how to turn off a reactor" or "should we do something about that fire ?"

Did you claim that there were no incidents because you didn't know about them or because you didn't care about them ?

I'm tired of the nuclear industry continually admitting "it's a little worse than we told you at the last press conference" You're constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.


Oh there was this incident earlier this month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-19797030

All the more reason to spend more than €10 billion upgrading it then.


When I say without incident I took it as read that others would assume I meant that in the context of major accidents resulting in local evacuations like the examples mentioned earlier - Chernobyl etc.

If you take a trem like 'without incident' at its most literal meaning, then it is almost impossible to describe anywhere as such. Every working building has incidents of some description.

shedweller

Ah yes but little incidents in nucular power plants have a nasty tendency to escalate into something very very long lasting.

Wossack

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

TWO senior firefighters were rapped after they didn’t turn out to lead their crew to a blaze at a nuclear power station.

jesus :eek:

Gbear

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

£8Bn to create 1,200 long term jobs. that's only 6.66 million per job.

Any idea of the power output so we can get a £/MW figure ?

for the money they are spending on a few nukes they could get this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/20/severn-estuary-tidal-power-project

It seems odd that you're seemingly environmentally minded but aren't terribly worried by the massively negative effect on the wildlife of the Severn estuary that the barrage would cause.

Ellis Dee

Just what we need in Ireland

Of course, our technology would be vastly better than anything the Soviets had.;)

Oh wait, it wasn't a technology failure; just human error.:eek:

Fine so. We don't do human error in Ireland.:)

Oh wait --- :rolleyes::rolleyes: