Quick Question about Worthless Filthy Cheaters

God of Justice

so apparently loads of physics students have been cheating on those masteringphysics.com assignments. This pisses me right off because I don't want to be an asshole and cheat like those slimy *****, but on the other hand I especially don't want said slimy ***** to get higher end of year results than me (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those things go towards your end of year results?).

So I wanna rat them out anonymously. I have specific names and everything but I'm not sure exactly how to about proving that they've cheated, or who to go to in order to tattle on them, or if there's even anyone who cares or will do anything about it. Any help on this?

By the way, don't waste my time and call me an asshole for taking joy in snitching on these turds. I missed my chance to rat out the leaving cert cheater ***** in the summer and I don't intend on missing out again .

Thank you in advance for your replies!


EDIT: ***** translates as c-u-n-t-s. Just thought I'd clarify that.

Keen2win

God of Justice wrote: »

so apparently loads of physics students have been cheating on those masteringphysics.com assignments. This pisses me right off because I don't want to be an asshole and cheat like those slimy *****, but on the other hand I especially don't want said slimy ***** to get higher end of year results than me (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those things go towards your end of year results?).

So I wanna rat them out anonymously. I have specific names and everything but I'm not sure exactly how to about proving that they've cheated, or who to go to in order to tattle on them, or if there's even anyone who cares or will do anything about it. Any help on this?

By the way, don't waste my time and call me an asshole for taking joy in snitching on these turds. I missed my chance to rat out the leaving cert cheater ***** in the summer and I don't intend on missing out again .

Thank you in advance for your replies!


EDIT: ***** translates as c-u-n-t-s. Just thought I'd clarify that.

What. An. Asshole.

Hande hoche!

In the long run you will benefit from doing them honestly. What are the assignments worth, maybe 10%? Knowing how to do them with resorting to "cheating" will be handy for the end of year exams. No point snitching.

T-K-O

Put that effort into your own studies.

timmywex

God of Justice wrote: »

so apparently loads of physics students have been cheating on those masteringphysics.com assignments. This pisses me right off because I don't want to be an asshole and cheat like those slimy *****, but on the other hand I especially don't want said slimy ***** to get higher end of year results than me (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those things go towards your end of year results?).

So I wanna rat them out anonymously. I have specific names and everything but I'm not sure exactly how to about proving that they've cheated, or who to go to in order to tattle on them, or if there's even anyone who cares or will do anything about it. Any help on this?

By the way, don't waste my time and call me an asshole for taking joy in snitching on these turds. I missed my chance to rat out the leaving cert cheater ***** in the summer and I don't intend on missing out again .

Thank you in advance for your replies!


EDIT: ***** translates as c-u-n-t-s. Just thought I'd clarify that.

If your getting so worked up about little things like this, I suspect your going to have some major problems in the next 3 and a half years.

Welcome to the real world, people cheat everywhere :cool:

UrbanSea

You must be the life of the party.

Rayne Wooney

God of Justice wrote: »

so apparently loads of physics students have been cheating on those masteringphysics.com assignments. This pisses me right off because I don't want to be an asshole and cheat like those slimy *****, but on the other hand I especially don't want said slimy ***** to get higher end of year results than me (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those things go towards your end of year results?).

So I wanna rat them out anonymously. I have specific names and everything but I'm not sure exactly how to about proving that they've cheated, or who to go to in order to tattle on them, or if there's even anyone who cares or will do anything about it. Any help on this?

By the way, don't waste my time and call me an asshole for taking joy in snitching on these turds. I missed my chance to rat out the leaving cert cheater ***** in the summer and I don't intend on missing out again .

Thank you in advance for your replies!


EDIT: ***** translates as c-u-n-t-s. Just thought I'd clarify that.

How did people cheat on the Leaving Cert?

shygal

yeah rat those phags out op

Markcheese

Look... Just e-mail it on to your lecturer,Or tutor, then get on with you and yours... I agree it's not fair if others cheat... But if you get caught up freaking over it, you'll be worse off ...

Grimebox

You are getting pointlessly angry with these people. Let go of it and live a happier life.

Tragedy

This is an Irish forum. Don't expect replies other than one's insulting you and telling you to mind your own business - it's the Irish way.

"Shure who cares what other people are up to, who the hell do you think you are sticking your nose into it"

If you actually want advice rather than somewhere to vent, write a short, calm, constructive letter to your lecturer stating what you think is happening, that you think that it's wrong and unfair and how you felt that even if nothing could be proven, you believed you should do something about it.

Lawliet

You should get on to the University Times about this.

Maybe_Memories

And this matters how?

Who gives a fcuk if they cheat? Can you honestly say you've never cheated on anything? Besides at the end of the day if they get a 1st from cheating and you get a 1st from doing the work honestly, you've both got a 1st and you'll feel good cos you actually put in the work and earned it.

I'd even be willing to guess your lecturers don't care either.



Ratting on your class wont get you anything. besides a lot of hate

God of Justice

See the thing is, this doesn't actually affect me at all. I actually manage to get higher than all of the cheaters known to me (feelsgoodman.jpg) so it's not like they're putting me out or anything. They are putting some of the other people out though, the ones who work hard, don't cheat, but still don't quite the marks they're looking for.

See, I had a couple friends from secondary who missed out on their courses by like 5-10 points. And they studied hard, all year long even. Then there were the lazy worthless slacker ***** who sneaked in their ****ey little cheatsheets in their maths sets - they were the ones who got those exact same courses. Worst part is that I actually overheard them talking about how they were planning on cheating up to a week beforehand, and you know what? I thought like you guys, and said to myself, "ah sure snitching on people is bad ou', I mean who even cares anyway".

Now the let-down faces of my friends haunt me every night, their disappointment seeps into my soul and I can't even breathe sometimes thinking about it. So it's not happening again.

Much thanks to Tragedy and Markcheese and Lawliet. Rest of yiz can suck it.

timmywex wrote: »

Welcome to the real world, people cheat everywhere :cool:

I'm making a new world. If people cheat everywhere then the God of Justice is gonna be everywhere, looking over their shoulder and rattin' them out.

Peace.

Random_Person

Lawliet wrote: »

You should get on to the University Times about this.

I believe The Piranha would suit better :pac:

Lawliet

Someone's been watching too much Death Note

God of Justice

Lawliet wrote: »

Someone's been watching too much Death Note

lol yeah I was wondering if someone would notice ^_^

T-K-O

Cryba

ubanra

By all means email/write if you think it best, but I'd imagine it would be difficult to prove anything if the answers are stepwise. Would it be obvious to a lecturer if an answer was lifted if they saw the possible source? Ie. do any of the answers involve any subjectivity that might stick out.

stealinhorses

MP is only worth 10% of your grade. I think labs are 25% or 30% and you can't cheat in your reports, and certainly the two exams will weed out all those who didn't learn anything by copying MP answers they found on the Internet.

And if you're worried about people getting 87% instead of 84% then it's your problem.

Tragedy

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

And this matters how?

Who gives a fcuk if they cheat? Can you honestly say you've never cheated on anything? Besides at the end of the day if they get a 1st from cheating and you get a 1st from doing the work honestly, you've both got a 1st and you'll feel good cos you actually put in the work and earned it.

I'd even be willing to guess your lecturers don't care either.



Ratting on your class wont get you anything. besides a lot of hate

Your attitude stinks.

It's ok to cheat, because everyone cheats.
It's ok to cheat and do better than you should, because at least you'll get to feel good about it.
It's ok to cheat because the referees don't care.
It's ok to cheat because people who whisteblow are rats and no-one likes a rat.
It's ok to cheat because it's none of anyone's business what you do.

Ravelleman

Lawliet wrote: »

You should get on to the University Times about this.

If this is irony then I offer you the prize of 'Post of the Afternoon'.

CJC86

Could I ask how they're cheating on the assignments? For Maths and Physics subjects collaboration is very much encouraged for assignments, as it leads to the stronger students lending a hand to weaker students.

However, all universities take a very strict view on plagiarism, so it's important for them to learn early on that you cannot hand up someone else's work as your own.

ride-the-spiral

Mastering physics is an online assignment, so just copying the answer will give you full marks. To be honest it's just one bad aspect of what is a horrible, horrible "teaching" tool, and you're time would be better spent complaining to the school of physics about even using it in the first place.

Grimebox

How exactly are people cheating on this? How are you assessed?

Scortho

This is ridiculous OP. Grow up.
You're in college now. All that matters is how you get on! Their grades wont harm yours if your as brilliant as you make yourself out to be.
Personally I don't cheat! I just find an easier way to get it done!:)

blubloblu

Genuinely surprised so many people support cheating in college.

bscm

MasteringPhysics is pretty useless tbh. It randomly generates starting values and asks you to solve a question. Using Google will turn up several results of people being talked through the problem (the same scenario as if you approached a lecturer or a tutor, they'll point you in the right direction or show you what equations to use).

To call it cheating is laughable in some sense. 90% of the time, any "Googled" answer would require you to slot in your "given" values and work it out yourself (again, same situation as if you had found a worked example in a book).

The system is also timed, if lecturers wanted to catch cheaters out, they would have done so years ago.

Grimebox

I don't understand how people are cheating when it comes to this. What difference does it make how long you take to do it? Any problem I have, my first port of call is google

Maybe_Memories

Tragedy wrote: »

Your attitude stinks.

It's ok to cheat, because everyone cheats.
It's ok to cheat and do better than you should, because at least you'll get to feel good about it.
It's ok to cheat because the referees don't care.
It's ok to cheat because people who whisteblow are rats and no-one likes a rat.
It's ok to cheat because it's none of anyone's business what you do.

My attitude is fine actually.

This is the real world. People cheat. I'm not saying go ahead and do it, I'm just saying other people cheating has no affect on the OP whatsoever.

Even if it came down to a cheater getting a job interview or whatever over the OP they would quickly get caught out in the interview.

Markcheese

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

My attitude is fine actually.

This is the real world. People cheat. I'm not saying go ahead and do it, I'm just saying other people cheating has no affect on the OP whatsoever.

Even if it came down to a cheater getting a job interview or whatever over the OP they would quickly get caught out in the interview.

While I don't think the OP should go on a crusade to rid the college of fraud and cheating,he should fire off a few e-mails or letters to lecturers or heads of department... There is a grudging acceptance of "strokes" and fast ones in this country..and while I don't want to be Germany, I don't want Bertie and co either... (and they got away with it at our expense)