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Formula 1 2012: Round 17 - Indian Grand Prix

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  • #102
    Max_Charger
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    In 55 races total Hamilton has 7 points more than Button. So far Button has retired 7 times that were either mechanical or he was crashed into, for Hamilton I think it was 5 times the last time I counted with some debatable. Over 3 seasons Button has been very, very close to Hamilton.

    That's pretty surprising, I would of thought it would of been a lot more then 7 points.


  • #103
    Jordan 199
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    In 55 races total Hamilton has 7 points more than Button. So far Button has retired 7 times that were either mechanical or he was crashed into, for Hamilton I think it was 5 times the last time I counted with some debatable. Over 3 seasons Button has been very, very close to Hamilton.

    Button has had 6 retirements, Hamilton has had 8 retirements.


  • #104
    [Deleted User]
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    Max_Charger wrote: »
    That's pretty surprising, I would of thought it would of been a lot more then 7 points.
    Everyone thinks of Hamilton as being better than Button but over the last few years his head has been all over the place and it affects his races.

    On their best days Button is not as good has Hamilton but the key point is that he has less bad days and less brainfarts on track. So in terms of points brought home they have been almost neck and neck, 7 points different in 55 races is nothing.

    You look at someone like Alonso and he just shows up without any baggage and consistently drives at his best. If Hamilton can get his head together like that he could be one of the all time greats but I don't see it happening.


  • #105
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    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Button has had 6 retirements, Hamilton has had 8 retirements.

    I'm counting Bahrain this year as a retirement. :pac: Hamilton's had more retirements but you'd be hard-pushed to find any of Button's that were his fault at all, some of Hamilton's were.


  • #106
    Jordan 199
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm counting Bahrain this year as a retirement. :pac: Hamilton's had more retirements but you'd be hard-pushed to find any of Button's that were his fault at all, some of Hamilton's were.

    Fine. Well I'll count Hamilton's race at Valencia this year a retirement, so that makes it 7-9 ;)


  • #107
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    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Fine. Well I'll count Hamilton's race at Valencia this year a retirement, so that makes it 7-9 ;)

    Sure but my point is that none of Button's retirements have been his fault, there's a case to be made for the crash with Vettel in Spa though. Hamilton on the other hand has had a few retirements that were his fault, the car has let him down less often than it has for Jenson.


  • #108
    Jordan 199
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sure but my point is that none of Button's retirements have been his fault, there's a case to be made for the crash with Vettel in Spa though. Hamilton on the other hand has had a few retirements that were his fault, the car has let him down less often than it has for Jenson.

    I had a look at what caused Hamilton's and Button's retirements at McLaren:

    2010:

    Hamilton: Hungary: gearbox. Monza: collision. Singapore: collision.

    Button: Monaco: overheating. Belgium: collision.

    2011:

    Hamilton: Canada: collision. Belgium: collision. Brazil: gearbox.

    Button: Britain: Wheel. Germany: Hydraulics.

    2012:

    Hamilton: Germany: puncture damage. Belgium: collision. Singapore: gearbox.

    Button: Italy: fuel pressure. Korea: collision.


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