Breeders Cup 2012

Nulty

RP have cards up.

Breeders Cup - Friday
Breeders Cup - Saturday
Breeders Cup Classic

Nulty

Why don't Godolphin ever send horses over to the BC. I know they have their own stables over there but Saeed bin Suroor doesn't send anything over.

faoile@n

Nulty wrote: »

Why don't Godolphin ever send horses over to the BC. I know they have their own stables over there but Saeed bin Suroor doesn't send anything over.

They can't win races in Britain let alone America.

bellybuster12

Really looking forward to this, it's great viewing for a friday/saturday night. I presume it's the ATR coverage we will be watching or is there anywhere else? Would love to see SNA do it again this year, also hopefully a big run from treasure beach.

cack_handed

Was hoping to see Gordon Lord Byron in the Mile but not entered, in fact take Ballydoyle & one or two from Weld & Gosden out & there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest this side of the world. Only skimmed entries so maybe have missed a few!

kincsem

If you Google "santa anita race track" you can get a satellite view of the place. The track looks like a paper clip (very tight turns). The draw will be very important.

bellybuster12

cack_handed wrote: »

Was hoping to see Gordon Lord Byron in the Mile but not entered, in fact take Ballydoyle & one or two from Weld & Gosden out & there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest this side of the world. Only skimmed entries so maybe have missed a few!

GLB will be running in Hong Kong on the 9th of december, he is also entered in the sales as well so provided he is not sold that is where will we see him next.

cack_handed

Thanks for the info bb. I guess there is better incentive to go to places like hong kong and dubai these days where connections get very well looked after. Hope the horse isnt sold, want to see him in Hong Kong and then hopefully heading to Dubai

bellybuster12

cack_handed wrote: »

Thanks for the info bb. I guess there is better incentive to go to places like hong kong and dubai these days where connections get very well looked after. Hope the horse isnt sold, want to see him in Hong Kong and then hopefully heading to Dubai

If he is sold it will be for good money, the fact that he was originally bought for something like 2k and breeding after is not an option, it would be kind of win win for the owners as they would of had have a great horse winning a GP1 and lots of prize money.

On the other hand you only get 1 of these(apart from the super powers) in a life time so maybe go with it and let the horse take you around the world and live the ultimate racing dream. Also i'm sure Tom hogan would not like to loose his stable star.

Funnily enough if he was sold he would prob run in Hong Kong anyway.

UrbanSea

Don't know why he'd go for the mile. He doesn't stay a mile and would be demolished by a proper group 1 horse like Excelebration

cack_handed

Obviously this is a bit redundant for this thread, as he aint going to california. Nevertheless, maybe 7f is his optimum distance so the mile comes into the equation, anyway seems to be the mile in HK next go guess you'll be proved right or wrong then

UrbanSea

I'd love to see Excelebration go and blow them away. He was so good at Ascot the last day.

This is the first year that the juvenile races will be ran without medication. Hopefully it can spread to the rest of the ages, the yanks horses are more drugged than Lance Armstrong

kfallon

Anyone know what price St Nic is for the Turf?

Ray Mond

Thinking of havin a nice bet on excellebration and sky lantern in a double. And excellebration in a single! Wat u people think of their chances?

Slattsy

Ray Mond wrote: »

Thinking of havin a nice bet on excellebration and sky lantern in a double. And excellebration in a single! Wat u people think of their chances?

I personally think the St Nicholas / Excelebration double is nailed on.

cack_handed

Excelebration looks to be entering lay territory imo, if not already there. Admittedly very good last time at Ascot but conditions, by all accounts, will be vastly different on saturday & have heard good accounts of the US trained second favourite. Might still hose up but personally would want significantly better than 11/8-6/4

newuser89

Lads what o brien horses are on lasix
If any
I know he had a good few on it last year

seoirsem

As far as I am aware, lasix is banned this year.

UrbanSea

I believe Lasix is only banned in the two year old races. Hopefully it can be implemented for all runners soon, the Americans' horses are more drugged than Lance Armstrong

tommyombomb

read that excalebration is not going to be given lasik

tryfix

St Nicholas Abbey at 3/1 in the turf is a nice bet, it's a more competitive race this time but I expect him to shine again, like last year.

Not so sure about Excelebration in the mile, he's plenty short in price, it's vastly different ground than Ascot and Wise Dan is a live danger.

Goldcupfav

Have a good bet on The Fugue in the filly and mare turf race. Also going to double her up with Sky Lantern. Know the two are favs but fancy both tonight.

Goldcupfav

Interesting blog on the Breeders this weekend.

http://bettingnote.blogspot.ie/2012/10/breeders-cup-meeting-november-2nd-2012.html

dave3004

Wont be going near The Fugue, Excelebration or Starspangledbanner.

American horses for me with a nice bet on Wise Dan

d-gal

dave3004 wrote: »

Wont be going near The Fugue, Excelebration or Starspangledbanner.

American horses for me with a nice bet on Wise Dan

Agree with Wise Dan, hugely impressive horse Nd a great price.
Only horse this side of the water I'd back is sky lantern. Reckon she will hammer them, especially with the yanks 2yo not medicated anymore

famagusta

lads, where in dublin city centre would be a good place to watch the racing!??????

ive a few bob on spring venture in the 9.28 and doubled her up with nahrain

Colonel Sanders

famagusta wrote: »

lads, where in dublin city centre would be a good place to watch the racing!??????

ive a few bob on spring venture in the 9.28 and doubled her up with nahrain

Dublin Racing Club are having a night in The Boar's Head

UrbanSea

I don't fancy Sky Lantern at all for some reason. Don't think that was the strongest of group 1's she won.

I'll have a small bet on Lady of Shamrock in the fillies and mares race. She's the best 3 year old filly in America this year and won two group 1's. Probably not as good as some of the Europeans but has a good attitude and will handle the fast coniditions. 14/1 is big enough

Harry Angstrom

Richard Hughes putting up 2 pound overweight with Sky Lantern, according to ATR.

klairondavis

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Richard Hughes putting up 2 pound overweight with Sky Lantern, according to ATR.

He's after saying on twitter that those reports aren't true

hucklebuck

That last race was soooo fixed, for 2 minutes before they are just showing trainer/ owner of the 20/1 shot at the bottom of the market. Then the favourite is getting back at the 20/1 shot and his jockey stops riding 20 yards from the line and gets beaten a nose.

mr.jingle

hucklebuck wrote: »

That last race was soooo fixed, for 2 minutes before they are just showing trainer/ owner of the 20/1 shot at the bottom of the market. Then the favourite is getting back at the 20/1 shot and his jockey stops riding 20 yards from the line and gets beaten a nose.

Yes it was definitely fixed:rolleyes:

Americans are bitter and sore losers and the jockey was certainly one of them. There was interference and he got a bump but he was the one that stopped for that split second and that cost him the race. I highly doubt it was fixed due to the fact it is the Breeder's Cup and America thinks it's the be all and end all of racing

Mont

Moonlight Cloud the best bet of the meet for me. Serious turn of foot, any horse that can barely lose to Black Caviar is a good horse.

Others i have backed Point of Entry in the Turf. Cant have St Nic.

French horse in the F&M tonight second fav

Awesome Feather in the Ladies Classic

Game on Dude in the Classic

Welds horse in the last tonight Whether or Which or something like that

hucklebuck

mr.jingle wrote: »

Yes it was definitely fixed:rolleyes:

Americans are bitter and sore losers and the jockey was certainly one of them. There was interference and he got a bump but he was the one that stopped for that split second and that cost him the race. I highly doubt it was fixed due to the fact it is the Breeder's Cup and America thinks it's the be all and end all of racing

It looked dodgy as hell if you ask me and it's not pocket talk, I backed nothing in it. Even if he did get a bump why would you stand up out of the driving position so close to the line?

mr.jingle

hucklebuck wrote: »

It looked dodgy as hell if you ask me and it's not pocket talk, I backed nothing in it. Even if he did get a bump why would you stand up out of the driving position so close to the line?

I honestly don't know why he got up and looked across maybe there was more to it than we see but i seriously doubt he'd throw out a BC winner for the sake of a few quid and his reaction after the result was called one of seriously being pi$$ed off!

BorneTobyWilde

Fame and Glory pulled up

Nulty

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Fame and Glory pulled up

Sense of Purpose was back there too. Hated it out there

mr.jingle

Backed Calidoscopio at 12's earlier and was about to throw the docket away before they got to the winning post first time he was that far back! Cannot believe that

bellybuster12

Nulty wrote: »

Sense of Purpose was back there too. Hated it out there

Both horses hated the surface, pitty.

naughto

any 1 no any thing about infanta brance he goes in the 9 30 in the breeders cup

Slattsy

A lot of money for Spring Venture in the next.

I dont fancy Hannon's at all here.

Might for for Infanta Branca ew at 20/1

BorneTobyWilde

Moonwalk EW for me, :eek:

Slattsy

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Moonwalk EW for me, :eek:

That's a BAD choice

BorneTobyWilde

Slattsy wrote: »

That's a BAD choice

we'll see. :cool:

naughto

Tara From The Cape for me a big 1euro ew

BorneTobyWilde

naughto wrote: »

Tara From The Cape for me a big 1euro ew

Aww don't waste your life savings on it :P

mr.jingle

Have Flotilla backed to win this one with a little e/w bet on Kitten's Point

naughto

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Aww don't waste your life savings on it :P

na its the household charge money iam betting;);)

BorneTobyWilde

Watdachances to win ,3 lengths

Harry Angstrom

Fookin Dundalk. Reminds me of when ATR once cut off a Group One in France to show an egg and spoon race from Wexford.

naughto

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Fookin Dundalk. Reminds me of when ATR once cut off a Group One in France to show an egg and spoon race from Wexford.

who did u have number 9 won it

o so lucy was 3rd