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GWP x hungarian vizsla

  • 24-10-2012 6:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭


    I have a GWP bitch who came into heat and got caught by Hungarian Vizsla. I am wondering has anyone seen this cross before and what did they look like? Is it a wirehaired vizsla? Do you think they would be a desirable dog for hunters i.e. should I be able to shift do you think easily, would they worth much?Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    dicky, cheers for that.Don't look great. I was thinking they would look more like a Hungarian wirehaired vizsla.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    There is Vizla already in the GWP, your pups would just have more Vizla than normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Let me know when the pups are born il gladly take one off you
    I know a lad who's father has a GSP x vizsla an is great dog for pointing and doin heavy cover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Dodderranger, I will keep you in mind and updated. You arent too far from me either. Mother and father working well, more so the vizzy.GWP still a bit puppyish even at 3! I have two others who would want a pup, so looks like good interest.
    Im really just trying to figure out what colours they be. Would they be the solid red of a Vizzy. I see in the attached picture of the GSP they are different colours would this apply to a GWP?
    I know the Hungarian wirehaired pointer was created by crossing GWP and smooth vizzy, to make it a bit hardier, so are they techniqully droppers or HWV(hungarian wire vizz)? Anybody know for sure? Thanks again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    I wouldn't really call them droppers as they are both a pointing breed
    Id more call a dropper a springer x pointer or lab pointer cross
    Yeah I'd defo take one off you need a Pointer
    Miss shootin phezzy's :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭dicky82


    corco2000 wrote: »
    Dodderranger, I will keep you in mind and updated. You arent too far from me either. Mother and father working well, more so the vizzy.GWP still a bit puppyish even at 3! I have two others who would want a pup, so looks like good interest.
    Im really just trying to figure out what colours they be. Would they be the solid red of a Vizzy. I see in the attached picture of the GSP they are different colours would this apply to a GWP?
    I know the Hungarian wirehaired pointer was created by crossing GWP and smooth vizzy, to make it a bit hardier, so are they techniqully droppers or HWV(hungarian wire vizz)? Anybody know for sure? Thanks again

    you can never know for sure what they'll look like until she whelps them. when i bread my springers this year, liver bitch to a black dog i didn't know what she'd have, as it happens only three were liver to six black. both my dog and bitch have have full marked faces but all the pups bar two had white strips down their faces.

    i wouldn't be too worried what they look like, i'd be more concerned weather they work well. if the parents are both solid working dog's then you should shift them handy enough. shame that your bitch is going to be out of action for the season though.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As the above poster said don't be concerned with their appearance. I saw a brittany with cross eyes that was a fantastic dog. The thing looked like Forest Whittaker :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Well mate any word on the dog yet is she defo in pup?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭yessam


    I would like to see what you have, when they are ready.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Hunterjohnb


    Hello Corco,would be interested in a bitch pup as and if one becomes available.Could I ask you to keep me in mind please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Guys, thank you for interest and response. Yes it looks like she is in pup, she is getting big and nipples getting red etc. They would be due in or around dec22nd, ready to go 8-10weeks after that. In time for training up in spring and hopefully ready for sep/oct!!!
    The father is turning out to be a smashing dog he is mad for work, I have had them both out on snipe,woodcock,pheasant,duck and pigeon this season so far.Going very well. The bitch is rock steady on pheasant and snipe both hunt point ad retrieve. They will both track deer, though I think he is better at the moment than her.
    The pups will only go to working homes, I have no doubt they will work out very well.
    I will post pictures of both as soon as I figure out how to!! And keep the post updated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    I'ld like to see how these turn out, good luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Il definately be interested in one and it's a working home
    Be worked with guns and birds of prey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    This is the bitch. Will post a picture of dog also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭dicky82


    nice bitch, did she have the pups yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Dicky, no not yet due in around dec 22 I think. Will keep post updated.
    This is the father, took these today will take more tomorrow, should get out for shot, hopefully have some game beside him!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Mate will u put my name down for one of the pups a female please Havint had a gun dog in 6 years nearly and was deciding whether to get a pointer again or vizsla and with the two combined will be perfect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Well, bitch had 13 beutiful pups last night. All are solid liver, some with white patch on chest and one with one white paw. They seem to be smooth coats at the moment.
    I am only posting here for now as want them to go to good working homes as both parents working.
    Please pm me if you are interested in pup.
    I will update with pictures.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    corco2000 wrote: »
    Well, bitch had 13 beutiful pups last night. All are solid liver, some with white patch on chest and one with one white paw. They seem to be smooth coats at the moment.
    I am only posting here for now as want them to go to good working homes as both parents working.
    Please pm me if you are interested in pup.
    I will update with pictures.

    Congrats on the litter!
    Hope all of them are strong and healthy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    I think he'll be busy bottle feeding for the next few weeks!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    lol they are doing ok for now no bottle feeds yet. I am going to seperaate them into 2 groups and rotate feeds as bigger pups are just knocking weaker ones off her. I dont want to interfer too much. You need to keep an eye on them as worried bitch might lie on them (happened yesterday) also the bed needs to be cleaned regularly blankets replaced and washed. Good fun though. We then have to cook up whatever the bitch will eat as she has gone very fuzzy and need to eat as much as seh can.
    Fun and games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 midnightfalcon


    Best of wishes. Have you pig rails in your welping box they will help stop the bitch from traping pups in the corners of the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Pics of the pups would be good when they get big enough...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    glen pix attached. Will update as they get bigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    corco2000 wrote: »
    glen pix attached. Will update as they get bigger.

    Put up more pics when they are older/cuter- I might get her-indoors convinced yet! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Hunterjohnb


    Can you put my name on a bitch pup please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Cheers John, PM sent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Only after a week, I can actually see their 'working\hunting instinct'. When they are slightly away from bitch and want a drink their tail goes up in the air and they use their back legs to hunt for bitch. They have a very good sense of smell, though blind and deaf.Like a dog going into dense cover knowing a bird lies within.
    They are starting to form their own characters even at this age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Great news Paul
    Look forward to seeing them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    1st pup, one of the bitch's has opened her eyes. They are getting big very quickly.Will post pix soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    corco2000 wrote: »
    1st pup, one of the bitch's has opened her eyes. They are getting big very quickly.Will post pix soon.
    Excellent look forward to seeing them again soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    pup with eyes open, they are getting big now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    corco2000 wrote: »
    pup with eyes open, they are getting big now.
    Love that liver colour
    Reminds me of a gsp my dad had years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Kieron854


    im looking for a pup at the. moment when will they be ready can i visit to pick one if poss


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Kieron, pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Pups all doing great, getting bigger, stronger & bolder every day. Ready to go in 5 weeks or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Today I got my pup from Paul
    Met him a few times previous to get some rats off his land with the ferrets
    Couldn't meet a nicer lad and anyone gettin pups off him will definitely be happy
    I'm delighted with my pup
    She even starting retrieving a empty actimel bottle earlier constantly to hand , really lively pup huge paws
    Went for a bitch as previous experience find them more controllable ( each to their own)
    Thanks again paul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭dicky82


    Today I got my pup from Paul
    Met him a few times previous to get some rats off his land with the ferrets
    Couldn't meet a nicer lad and anyone gettin pups off him will definitely be happy
    I'm delighted with my pup
    She even starting retrieving a empty actimel bottle earlier constantly to hand , really lively pup huge paws
    Went for a bitch as previous experience find them more controllable ( each to their own)
    Thanks again paul

    a little bit of advice i was given when training my pups was to try not use anything plastic or squeaky when playing fetch with a pup as it encourages them to bite down on whatever they have retrieved which can lead to hard mouth, something soft like rolled up socks or a glove are ideal. keep us updated on how she develops. will you be training her for the hawk or the gun? or both?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Hi dicky
    Yeah she'll be worked with gun and dog but won't introduce her to the hawk till she's about 6 months old as right now she's too young to be introduced to hawk
    Don't want accidents happening which can easily happen at her size
    She probably won't work with the hawk till bit later in the year
    Hopefully il have a good team :)
    Il post up pics of her later she's great with my 3 year old and very adventurous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 gyr


    Hi dicky
    Yeah she'll be worked with gun and dog but won't introduce her to the hawk till she's about 6 months old as right now she's too young to be introduced to hawk
    Don't want accidents happening which can easily happen at her size
    She probably won't work with the hawk till bit later in the year
    Hopefully il have a good team :)
    Il post up pics of her later she's great with my 3 year old and very adventurous

    if i was you i would hold the hawk on the fist everyday and let the bird see the pup play around that way you can stop anything happing to the pup and get the bird use to the dog as soon as you can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Hi, to reply to few recent pm's. There are 3male and 1female pup left from 13 they are ready to go. They are doing great very active and playfull and good fun. Fully vac'ed and wormed, I will post new pictures today(difficult as they won't stay still for more than a second!)Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thehound


    just wondering how did the pups turn out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thehound


    Just wondering how the pups turned out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thehound


    might be interested in a pup had springer/german pointer cross was great gundog sadly lost him this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭corco2000


    Thehound, thanks for post. PM sent. I will post updated pix, pups doing great and now ready to go to new home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    heres heidi now paul
    big and bold if shes not robbing my xbox controller shes robbing my daughters toys even though she has her own
    227F39E6_zps9dee3fa9.jpg
    686B7562_zps5e160a53.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    She looks in very good nick Dodderangler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭dicky82


    She looks in very good nick Dodderangler

    he was busy all morning with the cloth and mr sheene getting that shine on her. :D
    to be fair she looks smashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Thanks lads
    She gets fed 3 times a day and 4 raw eggs mixed in a week seems to add the shine on her
    She's comin on grand and is learning all about the whistle and is stopping on command
    Of course any advice welcome


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