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Is sex addiction ever a valid excuse for cheating?

  • 18-10-2012 9:46pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭


    It seems like a fairly convenient excuse for the cheater to use but could it ever be a valid excuse. If alcohol addiction is a disease then is sex addiction a disease?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    It is for the cheater...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Good way to get a disease tho. How long have you been a sex addict? Sounds moreish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    It's not an excuse. It's a reason. They're still doing something bad.

    I see an excuse as something that absolves you from blame. Like "Sorry I ran into your car. I hit a patch of black ice"

    as opposed to "Sorry I ran into your car. I was drunk"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    My answer to that question is, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    No.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    It's worked for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Alcoholism is not a disease. Liking sex is not a disease. Wanting lots of sex is not a disease. There is something wrong with a person that doesn't want plenty of sex. Society and culture are the disease, and religion just to stir the pot :P
    We should all be screwing in mad orgy huts, sucking on berries and titties, chewing weird leaves and generally getting ourselves killed in stupid fashion. If we were doing all that we'd be a lot happier and the planet wouldn't be destroyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Shryke wrote: »
    We should all be screwing in mad orgy huts, sucking on berries and titties, chewing weird leaves and generally getting ourselves killed in stupid fashion. If we were doing all that we'd be a lot happier and the planner wouldn't be destroyed.

    That's a brilliant idea. You could make a fortune from pr0n. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Sex addiction, the one disease you probably wouldn't mind getting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Prick!


    krudler wrote: »
    Sex addiction, the one disease you probably wouldn't mind getting.

    If you didn't mind getting it, it wouldn't be a DIS - EASE. Geddit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    What guy is not addicted to sex?


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gauss wrote: »
    It seems like a fairly convenient excuse for the cheater to use but could it ever be a valid excuse. If alcohol addiction is a disease then is sex addiction a disease?

    Valid excuse? Sure, in the way that "I'm an alcoholic, I can't help hurting the people I love when I'm drunk", is an excuse for beating the crap out of your wife.

    Being addicted to sex (which I have my reservations about being a real thing) can explain why a person would have lots of sex, or have sex with people they don't like. It's not at all related to the reasoning for getting into a relationship with someone and then having sex with other people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 nicola lawlor


    Gauss wrote: »
    It seems like a fairly convenient excuse for the cheater to use but could it ever be a valid excuse. If alcohol addiction is a disease then is sex addiction a disease?

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Ebbs


    krudler wrote: »
    Sex addiction, the one disease you probably wouldn't mind getting.

    I always imagine it as a gateway disease. Once you get it you start getting onto the stronger stuff... like herpies and STIs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,581 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Yo might as well face it you're addicted to love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    krudler wrote: »
    Sex addiction, the one disease you probably wouldn't mind getting.

    According to random findings from ages ago that I can't fully remember, it seems that a sex addict is as likely to go and have some homeless man blow him in order to get his fix. So I probably would mind if that's the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Well if one person isn't putting out at all eventually the sex addict is going to cave in to temptation.......in some make believe world.. 99% of the time it's a **** excuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    I like cheese


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    No it's not an excuse IMO. People have responsibilities, and if you're in a relationship you've committed to your partner and if you're married you've made a covenant with your wife. This means that you should honour that commitment or covenant agreement. In the event that you can't justify being in that relationship / marriage you should man up and break up or if you are married you clearly can't commit to your wife anymore if you're seeking other people instead. She deserves much better.

    Simply put too many people and men to put it crudely follow their balls rather than their heart or their head. Naturally many people might be attractive to us but if we've committed to someone that's key. If we love someone that's key. We live in a perverse culture that too often puts sex above a love and a commitment to another person where sex may be a component but not the sum total.


  • Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No more than killing addiction is an excuse for murder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    No more than killing addiction is an excuse for murder.

    Ah but the poor killer might have come from a deprived childwood.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Prick! wrote: »
    If you didn't mind getting it, it wouldn't be a DIS - EASE. Geddit?
    Your coat's on the door...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Gauss wrote: »
    It seems like a fairly convenient excuse for the cheater to use but could it ever be a valid excuse. If alcohol addiction is a disease then is sex addiction a disease?
    for sure. so is 'i likes to hump lots of wimin' and 'i wanted his stuff, really, really bad so i took it' and etc.


    now, whether is will be accepted as a valid excuse is a whole other kettle of Kabala

    (see sin thread)

    edit, if your asking does mental illness absolve one from ones actions, the ans is yes, if it incapacitates one's ability to reason. as for a particular case like sex addiction, i dunno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    johnayo wrote: »
    Ah but the poor killer might have come from a deprived childwood.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    wood people are mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    What the f**k is sex addiction anyways? :confused:

    Sure ask your average woman they'll say "Most blokes are always gagging for it" - so arent I viewed as a sex addict too? So is every other guy on this planet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    What the f**k is sex addiction anyways? :confused:

    Sure ask your average woman they'll say "Most blokes are always gagging for it" - so arent I viewed as a sex addict too? So is every other guy on this planet?
    i remember the LLS did a thing on it. seems pretty serious (ie sex from anyone at any cost) - for those who ACTUALLY have it, which i imagine is lot less than stated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭danslevent


    reginald wrote: »
    I like cheese

    Wow, one of your five posts since you have been a member since December 2008.

    I can see why you don't post more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    i remember the LLS did a thing on it. seems pretty serious (ie sex from anyone at any cost) - for those who ACTUALLY have it, which i imagine is lot less than stated.


    I reckon alot of .. well ... to be blunt, sluts, like to state they have it to mask their excessive behaviour :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    I reckon alot of .. well ... to be blunt, sluts, like to state they have it to mask their excessive behaviour :P
    hey, let the sluts alone.


    god knows we need em....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Being addicted to sex is an excuse for cheating, same as heroin addiction is an excuse for robbing a handbag.

    At least they have some excuse. I wouldn't trust somebody who cheated, not reliable as a friend, somebody who cheats sexually will cheat on you in some other part of life.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    K-9 wrote: »
    At least they have some excuse. I wouldn't trust somebody who cheated, not reliable as a friend, somebody who cheats sexually will cheat on you in some other part of life.

    Totally agree.
    K-9 wrote: »
    Being addicted to sex is an excuse for cheating, same as heroin addiction is an excuse for robbing a handbag.

    Really? ... Are you actually serious?
    Because the reality of it is, the people who use excuses totally out-weigh people who have the addiction. Whatever addiction it may be.

    But lets talk about the addiction itself. So a man, who is in a relationship or even married, sleeps with other women because of his "addiction" - has an "excuse"? ... Rather than racing home and giving the wife one, no, its an "excuse" to seek else where?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    Lust is a good reason for cheating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    But lets talk about the addiction itself. So a man, who is in a relationship or even married, sleeps with other women because of his "addiction" - has an "excuse"? ... Rather than racing home and giving the wife one, no, its an "excuse" to seek else where?

    As much as the heroin addict or alcoholic has some excuse to get their fix.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Gauss wrote: »
    It seems like a fairly convenient excuse for the cheater to use but could it ever be a valid excuse. If alcohol addiction is a disease then is sex addiction a disease?

    How is alcohol addiction a disease?
    You don't catch it or get infected by it. You consume it regularly by choice until the body becomes dependent on it for it "buzz"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    K-9 wrote: »
    As much as the heroin addict or alcoholic has some excuse to get their fix.

    No, k-9.
    Quite frankly what world do you live on?
    A heroin addict needs that certain substance in their body. An addiction. They'll do what it takes to get the next fix. To enter a foreign substance into their bodies.

    So called "Sex addicts" can masturbate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    Rabies wrote: »
    How is alcohol addiction a disease?
    You don't catch it or get infected by it. You consume it regularly by choice until the body becomes dependent on it for it "buzz"

    No, but I guess it could be classified as an illness.

    Alcohol, coke, sex, whatever, something inside the person is driving them to pursue these things to satisfy a need.
    This obviously doesn't completely remove all culpability.
    Still, it goes some way to explaining the person's actions.

    No, they shouldn't have cheated and it doesn't make it right.
    Yes, it someway mitigates what has happened, the culprit was face with fighting a stronger urge than non-sex addicts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    'Disease'.

    Lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Is that like sexlexia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    What guy is not addicted to sex?

    A guy with a dog ugly wife!


    then its called porn addiction!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I don't get how "Sex Addicts" have to cheat. Sure, would they not be getting all the sex from whoever they are with no?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    I don't get how "Sex Addicts" have to cheat. Sure, would they not be getting all the sex from whoever they are with no?

    see above! :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    see above! :pac:

    A few options off the top of me noggin:

    - Paper bag, if ya want to be rude about it
    - wear a blind fold, if you want to pretend its something kinky you are into
    - comment on the colour relationship between the curtains walls and carpets and start considering options for redecorating the room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Mickey H wrote: »
    That's a brilliant idea. You could make a fortune from pr0n. ;)

    It's called the 60's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle



    So called "Sex addicts" can masturbate.


    Its a compulsive behaviour and I don't think it works quite like that, as there is a pattern of rewards associated with acting it out, that having a little self love doesn't give the person. Its not just about orgasm.

    Like other compulsive behaviours, I think it has the capacity to make the sufferer miserable and to ruin their life, and by extension their partners and families lives.

    I'm sure anybody who's life is dominated by the compulsion to satisfy an unreasonable need, and who is ultimately doomed to never feel 'done', will tell you that its a very real problem and one they have little psychological control over. I'd feel sorry for everyone in its orbit tbh.

    People who pretend to have it to excuse cheating are the lowest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Never an excuse.

    Also, alcoholism is not a disease. That's just idiots who can't say no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    No, k-9.
    Quite frankly what world do you live on?
    A heroin addict needs that certain substance in their body. An addiction. They'll do what it takes to get the next fix. To enter a foreign substance into their bodies.

    So called "Sex addicts" can masturbate.

    I'd be skeptical myself too. Probably more akin to gambling addiction!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭CdeC


    What the f**k is sex addiction anyways? :confused:

    Sure ask your average woman they'll say "Most blokes are always gagging for it" - so arent I viewed as a sex addict too? So is every other guy on this planet?


    Most blokes are gagging for it but when you can't start your day until you get blown in a toilet by a stranger than you know you have a problem.

    If it's a crutch that is interfering with your life and happiness than it is an addiction and also everyone treats it like a joke so that makes it even harder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Never an excuse.

    Also, alcoholism is not a disease. That's just idiots who can't say no.

    There is a lot of medical research that suggests otherwise. There appear to be genetic markers that correlate with alcoholism.

    http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/alerts/l/blnaa18.htm

    I think it's a huge oversimplification to say 'That's just idiots who can't say no.' - my Grandmother suffered from Alzheimer's disease; was she just an idiot who couldn't remember stuff?

    I get that it's hard to acknowledge things we can't easily see. If a kid is born with one leg, people look at him and go 'Oh - he's only got one leg!' and they can immediately acknowledge that problems that would go along with only having one leg.

    Now, ignoring high-tech prosthetic limbs - it'd be really silly to say, 'Anyone who can't run an 8minute mile is lazy' and apply it to the kid with one leg. He's got *ONE* leg. Likewise, you wouldn't expect him to play football at the same level as his two legged peers with equal experience. People with one leg might be able to do all of those things; but surely they have different learning curves, require different types of assistance, and aspire to different levels of competence.

    But when someone has an abnormality we can't see, so long as we don't understand it well enough/can't easily verify it with near certainty, a lot of people will refuse to acknowledge it (and, to be fair, some people will claim to be afflicted by it for attention or whatever personal motivations they have).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Shryke wrote: »
    We should all be screwing in mad orgy huts, sucking on berries and titties, chewing weird leaves and generally getting ourselves killed in stupid fashion. If we were doing all that we'd be a lot happier and the planet wouldn't be destroyed.

    I was all on for joining your cult shryke, untill the end bit. After my weird leaf fuelled orgies, i prefer to go home and have a nice cup of tea, i don't want to be killed in and fashion stupid or genius.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Also, alcoholism is not a disease. That's just idiots who can't say no.

    Ridiculous statement, bit offensive too.
    You're basically saying that addiction doesn't really exist.


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