eircom ncd fibre roll out

10belowzero

Just announced by eircom to day , Rush + Skerries to be included for the fibre roll out in phase 4 of national roll out of fibre to be completed by dec 2013.
preliminary work has already started in Rush/Lusk .
Ashbourne + Finglas are also included which include's area's of ncd like the ward/st margaret's not covered by Sword's.which has already been completed along with Donabate + Portrane. Balbriggan is allready being worked on at present.
Good news all round for ncd , with speed's of 25 mb to 150mb as standard,broadband user's in Ncd have major improvement's in service to look forward too.

Khannie

Super news! Thanks.

The Hill Billy

Nice one! The speeds hack me off when I am at home. Here in Switz I get 50Mbps on my phone (100 by Christmas so they tell me!) & 100Mbps in my apartment. Am struggling to get 8 at home.

Great news indeed!

MugMugs

Hi OP. is there a link of where is getting it? I'd like to see if my Louth town will be getting it any time soon

10belowzero

The information is available on the main eircom site .The link will bring you there

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http://pressroom.eircom.net/press_releases/article/eircom_Announces_Full_Year_Results_30_June_2012_/

dubmick

I'm not seeing Balbriggan on that list? Hope they are working on Balrothery too

Edit: Just spotted Balbriggan is on phase III. Due to completed by Easter 2013. Nice one.

http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/News/Fibre_Rollout_Locations/

dewindygap

Hi Hill Billy, surprised to hear you are getting near 8 in the hills as I am throttled back to 1.5 just to make a connection.

10belowzero

Balrothery would be included as it's within the Balbriggan exch area , as with Sword's . Donabate . Portrane etc , area's like killeek , rollerstown , the five road's . ring of the common , kilcrea , balrothery etc all area's that struggled before , will at last have some semblence of decent broadband.
I am of course biased being an eircom tech , It's still good news allround.

dubmick

10belowzero wrote: »

Balrothery would be included as it's within the Balbriggan exch area , as with Sword's . Donabate . Portrane etc , area's like killeek , rollerstown , the five road's . ring of the common , kilcrea , balrothery etc all area's that struggled before , will at last have some semblence of decent broadband.
I am of course biased being an eircom tech , It's still good news allround.

thanks for the update. Do you reckon we will definitely have it by Easter 2013?

The Hill Billy

dewindygap wrote: »

Hi Hill Billy, surprised to hear you are getting near 8 in the hills as I am throttled back to 1.5 just to make a connection.

You may be on a shared copper cable with one or more neighbours. I was too, but I had a chat with the engineers when they were doing some rewiring outside my house. I mentioned that I do a bit of work in telecoms & we talked about how a 'hypothetical' connection could be improved. Fair dues to them, they managed to show me by improving mine.

10belowzero

All the fibre project's have been completed , on time or ahead of target , except for specific location's that require planning , civil's etc to be completed , but all in all i see no reason why target's won't be met on time.

10belowzero

What is great is that huge area's of Ncd will have , fibre capability outside or within reach , that's why i talked about remote area's like Corballis in Donabate or Walshestown o/side Balbriggan -- estate's like Rivermeade in St Margret's now have all the option's of ftth or fttc or traditional pstn/dsl service.
Place's like Loughshinney , St catherine's , Lambay view , Dunsoughly /Balough , other area's like kilmoon in Ashbourne , leas cross / lispopple / knocksedan area's that were once remote , will be no longer . in anyone's book . that has to be a winner.

Mr Cumulonimbus

MugMugs wrote: »

Hi OP. is there a link of where is getting it? I'd like to see if my Louth town will be getting it any time soon

Phase 2 - Drogheda, December this year.
Phase 4 - Dundalk, December 2013.

Link: http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/News/NGA_Phase_4/

adox

I presume this will be taken up by the likes of Vodafone etc who use Eircom networks?

10belowzero

The new network will be open to wholesale customer's , as far as i'm aware , magnet have been involved in the field trial's in wexford , sandyford etc.
The new network will also offer tv service's in the near future.

Khannie

So riddle me this - how does the last mile bit work? Will local level rewiring be required? Or is the phone copper capable of more once the exchange is?

SeaSide

Not sure how eircom are doing it but likely to be somewhere in the FTT-X http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x you can get much more capacity through copper over shorter distances and you're not as affected by crosstalk. Open to correction though

10belowzero

Basically the exch is moved to your nearest dist cabinet that you see us working at on the road etc , but also with the ability to provide ftth where required , or where it pass's home's / business's , we can tap in / splice to facilitate the cust.
I can't wait , as i'm a speed freak , i'm in lusk , i get 8mb , i,ve been in to pc's since the early day's of commodore , apple + win's 95 , hell i've a pc here with a massive 1 gb hard drive , i can still remember the diff between dial up + broadband , oohh a friend had isdn then - man was he important.
In them thar day's data line's had a massive 1 mb capacity --- the good old day's or what ,whohoo give me my 150 mb now , that's what i'm talkin bout.

SeaSide

Lusk ain't on the list :mad:

The Hill Billy

Khannie wrote: »

So riddle me this - how does the last mile bit work? Will local level rewiring be required? Or is the phone copper capable of more once the exchange is?

There a several ways in which to boost the signal down the copper leg hanging off fiber. For example, the copper lines can be reconfigured at Copper Access Node ports (where the fibre links to the copper) to improve the signal quality of the physical cable. It is also possible to adjust the signals themselves to reduce contention down the pipes.

10belowzero

Rush/Lusk are the same exch area .It's a huge area , and the best thing is , not a lot of people know how beautifull NCD is when you turn off main road's , some area's have not been touched by time , esp when your 10km from the nearest exch - this development will make a huge difference in area's , where b/band just was not an option up till now.
link = http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=http:%2F%2Fwww.nextgenerationethernet.com%2Fexchanges.kmz&hl=en&ll=53.525003,-6.16745&spn=0.108783,0.308647&sll=53.52388,-6.141357&sspn=0.054801,0.154324&t=m&z=12

Manny Pacquiao

Looking forward to the 50 Down/20 Up package. Shame my area is one of the last to be upgraded in as it's in phase 4.

Khannie

Manny Pacquiao wrote: »

Looking forward to the 50 Down/20 Up package.

Where did you get the package details? Would be very happy with that kind of upload speed once I still had a decent ping.

Manny Pacquiao

Khannie wrote: »

Where did you get the package details? Would be very happy with that kind of upload speed once I still had a decent ping.

http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/

The package in the middle is the one I have my eye on because of the unfortunate download cap. It's the same price as the up-to-24 mb package eircom offer now.

Click on "view details" for more information about the packages. The upload speed are much better than UPC's.

Edit*

UPC upgraded their packages too:

http://www.upc.ie/broadband/

BrianG23

The contention ratio sucks in my area. Supposed to get 8MB. Get 200KB

Manny Pacquiao

BrianG23 wrote: »

The contention ratio sucks in my area. Supposed to get 8MB. Get 200KB

That's not contention, your speed is slow because you're too far from the exchange. Better off downgrading to a slower package to save money.

blastman

This is good news, I struggle to get 6MB (and have been struggling more than usual recently!) on an 8MB package. If I could get UPC fiber I would have been gone like a shot. At last it seems decent speeds are within sight....

Khannie

Manny Pacquiao wrote: »

http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/

The package in the middle is the one I have my eye on because of the unfortunate download cap. It's the same price as the up-to-24 mb package eircom offer now.

Thanks. I keep getting redirected to pages offering me 8Mb bundles with that. I'd be well happy with 50 down / 20 up though.

Manny Pacquiao

Khannie wrote: »

Thanks. I keep getting redirected to pages offering me 8Mb bundles with that. I'd be well happy with 50 down / 20 up though.

Yeah, it seems eircom fiddled around with their website shortly after I posted the that link.

Before they fiddled around with their website, they used to have a link underneath "Top Queries" on the left side of this page:

https://secure.eircom.net/talktime/talktime-evolution-flow?execution=e1s1

It brought me to the packages that have now apparently disappeared. I'll check the site every few days or so in case they list their fibre packages again.

cyberhog

You can also use google's cache to view the details.

25mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:VZgpS09PO2AJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/25Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/25Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk


50mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:RhXQHO938bUJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/50Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/50Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk


150mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:Bmg2eCldxjUJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/150Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/150Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk

The caps seem a bit stingy for fibre. I'll bet loads of people will go over their allowance.

Khannie

cyberhog wrote: »

You can also use google's cache to view the details.

Nice one, thanks.

cyberhog wrote: »

The caps seem a bit stingy for fibre. I'll bet loads of people will go over their allowance.

Agreed. The resellers usually compete on cap though. I currently have a 350G limit with Vodafone on a 24Mbps line package (I get a solid 18Mbps).

Out of those I'd probably plump for the 150Mbps one. Don't think I could help myself, though really I have no need for that kind of speed.

Manny Pacquiao

cyberhog wrote: »

You can also use google's cache to view the details.

25mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:VZgpS09PO2AJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/25Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/25Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk


50mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:RhXQHO938bUJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/50Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/50Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk


150mb bundle
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cache:Bmg2eCldxjUJ:http://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/150Mb/%2Bhttp://www.eircom.net/broadband/fibre/products/hero/150Mb&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&hl=en&ct=clnk

The caps seem a bit stingy for fibre. I'll bet loads of people will go over their allowance.

You, sir, are a genius. Thanks a bunch for those links and showing me a handy new trick.

Yeah I agree it's stingy but remember we're deal with eircom here, they're the Joseph Stalin of Internet companies; we're forced to live under them and they starve us to death with rations.

Manny Pacquiao

Khannie wrote: »

Nice one, thanks.



Agreed. The resellers usually compete on cap though. I currently have a 350G limit with Vodafone on a 24Mbps line package (I get a solid 18Mbps).

Out of those I'd probably plump for the 150Mbps one. Don't think I could help myself, though really I have no need for that kind of speed.

Hopefully eircom took those packages down because they're rethinking about their future packages and the silly download caps, though, I hope they stick to their 20 and 30 upload speed because that's what attracted me to them.

150 Mb is great but the download cap is what turned me off. I know that in a shared house full of students that would be eaten through by watching streams and such - not good for landlords.

Riesen_Meal

10belowzero wrote: »

What is great is that huge area's of Ncd will have , fibre capability outside or within reach , that's why i talked about remote area's like Corballis in Donabate or Walshestown o/side Balbriggan -- estate's like Rivermeade in St Margret's now have all the option's of ftth or fttc or traditional pstn/dsl service.
Place's like Loughshinney , St catherine's , Lambay view , Dunsoughly /Balough , other area's like kilmoon in Ashbourne , leas cross / lispopple / knocksedan area's that were once remote , will be no longer . in anyone's book . that has to be a winner.

This news has nearly brought a tear to my eye, this is excellent news, I am in Ringfort in Balrothery, I pay for 8mb and get 4mb, should I be in line for some kind of speed increase do you reckon?

My only issue with mine, if it was a healthy 6mb constant, I would be happy with that, hd streaming the footie gets slightly wobbly on the 4mb sometimes

10belowzero

Estate's like ringfort , should have no problem's as your within meter's of a distribution case , which serve's your estate.
Balbriggan is due to be completed by easter 2013 .

MMAGirl

I just drive from swords to Ashbourne. Most of the road is wired to the swords exchange. I did not see a single phone cabinet all the way.
Now I know that people on that road in rolestown and kilsallaghan have probably the worst broadband in Dublin.
So with no cabinets what are they going to do. So much for the state of broadband in NCD. Or are there cabinets along that road and I'm just blind.

10belowzero

Rolerstown/ kilsallahan /lispopple , leas's cross etc are completed ,as far as i know , you would not really see the cab's as they are on side road's etc.
They are hard to find at time's unless you know the area or where they are.
Eg the cab for knocksedan etc is at the bridge ,cover's killeek/leas's cross etc ,their's a cab just below the kettle's inn , for that area.
Every part of the operational area of Sword's exch has been covered, not just the main populated/ and commercially viable area's around Sword's it's self.
Which is why area's like Rollerstown / killsallahan etc will see major improvement's.

MMAGirl

10belowzero wrote: »

Rolerstown/ kilsallahan /lispopple , leas's cross etc are completed ,as far as i know , you would not really see the cab's as they are on side road's etc.
They are hard to find at time's unless you know the area or where they are.
Eg the cab for knocksedan etc is at the bridge ,cover's killeek/leas's cross etc ,their's a cab just below the kettle's inn , for that area.
Every part of the operational area of Sword's exch has been covered, not just the main populated/ and commercially viable area's around Sword's it's self.
Which is why area's like Rollerstown / killsallahan etc will see major improvement's.

You sir are a fountain of information
That sounds like good news then.
Is that cab on the Ashbourne side of Kettles Inn? On the Swords Ashbourne road?
Is it green? Must have a look again on my way home and see.
If they are completed then how long til they switch on the service to customers in those areas?
I do know someone in Rolestown whose eircom broadband speed has gone from 1Mbps down to less than half that in the last 2 weeks. So things definitely arent getting better yet.

10belowzero

The launch of the service , will be in the spring , negotiation's are on going with comreg etc , so their is no official launch date as yet ,afaik.
The cab is green and on the Sword's side of the kettle's inn , at the jct of the killsallahan rd as far as i can remember.

Vico1612

KN are laying what appears to be red ducting for fiber in Balbriggan today
They are currently on Hamilton Road next to the Educate Together and were in town center next to supervalue last night ... might drop by later to ask them

dirtyghettokid

10belowzero wrote: »

The launch of the service , will be in the spring , negotiation's are on going with comreg etc , so their is no official launch date as yet ,afaik.
The cab is green and on the Sword's side of the kettle's inn , at the jct of the killsallahan rd as far as i can remember.

we don't have any eircom broadband on our road.. i'm in the exchange to the left of the lusk/rush one, according to your google map. are we going to be upgraded at all?
knightstown/hollywood/nevitt etc

MMAGirl

If the fibre is already installed to the cabs in Swords, then should people already see an improvement in their broadband? Or will there be absolutely no difference until they order fibre.

10belowzero

Knightstown / hollywood are out of ballyboughal exch , which is dsl enabled .
I would expect it will be included in the future , as part of the whole 01 area.
There would be no improvement in ordinary dsl service , cust would have to switch to fttc or ftth - fibre service to see the improvement in speed etc.

dubmick

what about Oldtown? A friend of mine lives there and says many people can't get eircom broadband at the moment

Super hoop

Any idea when stamullen will be getting fibre b/b??

10belowzero

Oldtown was omitted from the ngb scheme by eircom, I can't remember the exact reason why , it's possible that it was to be covered by the nbs operated by e net for the government or an alternative b/band provider.
It may well be included with ballyboughal at some future date.

dirtyghettokid

10belowzero wrote: »

Knightstown / hollywood are out of ballyboughal exch , which is dsl enabled .

when i put in the old telephone number for this house onto the website, it says it is not DSL enabled at all.

Super hoop

dirtyghettokid wrote: »

when i put in the old telephone number for this house onto the website, it says it is not DSL enabled at all.

Have ya a link to the site?

dirtyghettokid

Super hoop wrote: »

Have ya a link to the site?

you just pretend to buy a broadband product from the eircom site. it will come up with a page that allows you to put in your phone number to check.

i spent a day last month checking what was available in my area and all we have is digiweb, ripplecom and the 3G dongle providers like 3, meteor, o2 etc

Retail Mngr

Hi 10belowzero

Thank You.Thank You. Thank you.
Mannah from heven this thread. Now have 100% more info then in a long time.

K&N were pushing fibre outside my door on Killeek Lane a couple of months ago and I got very excited. Now understand that it will be Spring time before connected. (currently gettting nearly 1.7Mbp)

One question if you could - Killeek is a small country lane - only about 2 dozen homes - but the fibre cable is in the ground just out there - Will I still get a connection? To home or to cabinet? (Speed freak me)

Thanks again

Paul

10belowzero

Yes , Swords exch area is complete , including killeek lane + rivermeade , fttc (cabinet) basic speed 25 mb initially , no news of launch date yet i'm afraid , hopefully early next year. hths.