why are colleges so liberal?

Internet Hero

my college is very liberal i have noticed. i just started here last month and allot of the profesors are talking about liberal politically important ideas even when it isnt the topic of conversation. it is trinity college but i am sure it is like this in allot of collges. is there conservative poiint of view being pushed out by colleges? are they centres of liberal group think? it is ironic that so called institutes of higher learning could realy be the apotheosis of mindless group think...

im invisible

Indeed...

Acidflash

Obviously you're not studying English.

Doctor DooM

Maybe you should actually study and learn a bit and then you might be qualified to judge.

kylith

You're right! Colleges should be churning out racist, capitalist, religious zealots. I will not rest until every college in this country stamps out its liberal, lefty, agenda!

Internet Hero

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Maybe you should actually study and learn a bit and then you might be qualified to judge.

thats why im in college want to learn

My name is URL

We get it... you're a conservative!

wnolan1992

A person who posted a thread boasting about drinking a bottle of vodka speaking about how colleges "could realy be the apotheosis of mindless group think"....

Right....

summerskin

trinity college, thinly veiled etc etc

Internet Hero

My name is URL wrote: »

We get it... you're a conservative!

old hippy

Thinly veiled "look at my conservative credentials" thread.

Internet Hero

kylith wrote: »

You're right! Colleges should be churning out racist, capitalist, religious zealots. I will not rest until every college in this country stamps out its liberal, lefty, agenda!

i am in favour of political debates. it is like it is always a slam dunk for the liberal point of view.. just prefer allot of debate

Funglegunk

Liberal and conservative in the American sense, or the European sense?

Boombastic

liberal politically important ideas - like using a wheelchair if you just feel like it that day? That sort of thing is it?

AnonoBoy

This isn't news. Colleges have always been liberal.

Sure back in the day college professors were the people campaigning for both types of peanut butter (crunchy and smooth) to be allowed in the country.

If it wasn't for them you'd never have the joy of picking a bit of peanut out of your teeth at 10pm at night on a Wednesday and thinking - "Jaysus, I haven't had peanut butter since the weekend!"

old hippy

Internet Hero wrote: »

i am in favour of political debates. it is like it is always a slam dunk for the liberal point of view.. just prefer allot of debate

I knew a lad like you, when I was in college. Always thought of himself as intellectually above the rest of us mere mortals.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I assume you mean liberal in the social sence and not in the econmic sence.

Educated people tend to be (socially) liberal. Not saying there's a direct connection, but the co-relation is there.

Economically, it would probably be a more conservative mindset, i would think.

Internet Hero

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I assume you mean liberal in the social sence and not in the econmic sence.

Educated people tend to be (socially) liberal. Not saying there's a direct connection, but the co-relation is there.

Economically, it would probably be a more conservative mindset, i would think.

it is more liberal in both economic and social. it is a liberal college i think, trinity that is. there are other collges that maybe are different and not everyone is liberal but it is the main thing. .

ejmaztec

Acidflash wrote: »

Obviously you're not studying English.

He's just started doing a PHD in Keyboard Repairs.

Internet Hero

old hippy wrote: »

I knew a lad like you, when I was in college. Always thought of himself as intellectually above the rest of us mere mortals.

no i am just somebody who likes debate on issue so we can all learn about diferent ideas

Gee Bag

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is more liberal in both economic and social. it is a liberal college i think, trinity that is. there are other collges that maybe are different and not everyone is liberal but it is the main thing. .

Do you mean liberal as in the normal rules of grammar and sentence structure do not apply?

Gurgle

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Educated people tend to be (socially) liberal. Not saying there's a direct connection, but the co-relation is there.

Hmmm... a relationship between (highly?) educated people and liberal thinking... It's almost like they were 'trained' in some way to consider a situation on it's contextual details and pay less attention to traditional values.

Agricola

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is more liberal in both economic and social. it is a liberal college i think, trinity that is. there are other collges that maybe are different and not everyone is liberal but it is the main thing. .

I think you're just throwing word turds at the wall and seeing which stick!

old hippy

Internet Hero wrote: »

no i am just somebody who likes debate on issue so we can all learn about diferent ideas

Excellent. I put it to you that 3rd level institutions in Ireland are actually less liberal compared to the 60s and 70s and are in fact, tending more towards conservatism (with a small "c").

Thoughts?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is more liberal in both economic and social. it is a liberal college i think, trinity that is. there are other collges that maybe are different and not everyone is liberal but it is the main thing. .

I'd say most of them are. We're talkign students here as well.

Internet Hero wrote: »

no i am just somebody who likes debate on issue so we can all learn about diferent ideas

Why not take it up with your college professor? What are you studying, anyway?

K3lso

It's not Liberalism that is growing across the US in universities, it's Libertarianism.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Gurgle wrote: »

Hmmm... a relationship between (highly?) educated people and liberal thinking... It's almost like they were 'trained' in some way to consider a situation on it's contextual details and pay less attention to traditional values.

More a case of just "thinking" . My expereince is that liberal people (and I'm not nessecarily saying left-wing here) tend to think. Conservaties place more emphasis on faith and not questioning anything. Colleges and universities fall more into the former category (or what's the point in going? could just read the course books).

Internet Hero

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

More a case of just "thinking" . My expereince is that liberal people (and I'm not nessecarily saying left-wing here) tend to think. Conservaties place more emphasis on faith and not questioning anything.

haha you are like them in college. it is always said arogantly as if they are smarter or are the only ones who think and there is no real debate it is just that conservatives dont understand them it isnt that they just dont agree haha. you are in college now.

Internet Hero

it is also that liberals in college dress way fancier, it is as if they are in love with themselves. they all wear those long coats and have scarfs and glasses and fancy shirts and stuff and talk in fake voices and act like they know everhting

Kurz

Internet Hero wrote: »

haha you are like them in college. it is always said arogantly as if they are smarter or are the only ones who think and there is no real debate it is just that conservatives dont understand them it isnt that they just dont agree haha. you are in college now.

Well I must say, you're a fantastic representative for conservatives. You have them summed up to a tee.

Ellis Dee

kylith wrote: »

You're right! Colleges should be churning out racist, capitalist, religious zealots. I will not rest until every college in this country stamps out its liberal, lefty, agenda!

And enough already with all that talk about gender equality, human rights, tolerance of diversity, plurality and encouraging all those pufft, sorry sexual minorities and --- :eek: --- blind belief in evolution.

To be honest, I often wonder how I survived those years at university.;);)

Brain Stroking

Internet Hero wrote: »

i am in favour of political debates. it is like it is always a slam dunk for the liberal point of view.. just prefer allot of debate

Would you reduce the number of players on the Spanish football team in order to even things up in the next World Cup?

Brain Stroking

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is also that liberals in college dress way fancier, it is as if they are in love with themselves. they all wear those long coats and have scarfs and glasses and fancy shirts and stuff and talk in fake voices and act like they know everhting

I think you'll find that liberal-minded people wear all sorts of attire. You probably need to get out of your petri dish. Or from under your bridge.

Einhard

Because colleges play host to a (generally) more educated population, and, in general terms, the more educated one is, the more liberal one tends to be.

bodice ripper

Internet Hero wrote: »

my college is very liberal i have noticed. i just started here last month and allot of the profesors are talking about liberal politically important ideas even when it isnt the topic of conversation. it is trinity college but i am sure it is like this in allot of collges. is there conservative poiint of view being pushed out by colleges? are they centres of liberal group think? it is ironic that so called institutes of higher learning could realy be the apotheosis of mindless group think...

it does seem like the more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal. funny that :P

Doctor DooM

Internet Hero wrote: »

thats why im in college want to learn

Perhaps you should actually listen to what they are saying, so.

biko

Universities and colleges are inherently liberal and progressive.
Students are usually the first to protest injustices.

Bannasidhe

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is also that liberals in college dress way fancier, it is as if they are in love with themselves. they all wear those long coats and have scarfs and glasses and fancy shirts and stuff and talk in fake voices and act like they know everhting

I am a college lecturer and I do know 'everhting'.
I also wear a long coat and a scarf but only when it is cold/raining.
I used to wear glasses all the time but then I got laser eye surgery so now I only wear them when I am reading copies of liberal manifestos with teeny weeny print.
If you think my work shirts are fancy - you should see my going out shirts. They would blow your mind.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Internet Hero wrote: »

haha you are like them in college. it is always said arogantly as if they are smarter or are the only ones who think and there is no real debate it is just that conservatives dont understand them it isnt that they just dont agree haha. you are in college now.

You need to punctuate this, but if you're saying what I think you're saying, you're mixing up thinking with being smart. I never said liberals were "smarter".

Also, I never said conservaties weren't smart. I said they put more empahasis on faith then thought. You seem to be taking this is a negative remark (again, your punctuation is not very clear on this), which is not so. There is no inclination, again, that thinking is more virtueous than faith.

Internet Hero wrote: »

it is also that liberals in college dress way fancier, it is as if they are in love with themselves. they all wear those long coats and have scarfs and glasses and fancy shirts and stuff and talk in fake voices and act like they know everhting

Okay, so you're anti-liberal. We get it.

You started off by asking why colleges were more liberal, now you're just going down the road of veiled attacks.

Internet Hero

bodice ripper wrote: »

it does seem like the more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal. funny that :P

could be because they get educated in a colege where liberal stuff is pushed at them...

i am the only conservative in my class i think...

usernamegoes

What are you studying?

Duggy747

We just spent our first semester at college. Our professors opened our eyes. The government is using its corporate ties to make you sell magazines so they can get rich.

Bannasidhe

usernamegoes wrote: »

What are you studying?

Women's Studies.

:pac:

Brain Stroking

Internet Hero wrote: »

could be because they get educated in a colege where liberal stuff is pushed at them...

i am the only conservative in my class i think...

Maybe you should enroll in Mater Dei - science and analytical thought are not your friend.

bodice ripper

Internet Hero wrote: »

could be because they get educated in a colege where liberal stuff is pushed at them...

i am the only conservative in my class i think...

When i was 16 through 22 I was massively conservative. Like in that hardline, why should anyone help anyone else, american kind of way.

then, as I lived out in the real world, I got to see how people suffered. now I am fairly liberal.

I am still very conservative if we are talking high theory, but in the real world things are different.

OP, you've been in college for a month, experienced people being open about their views (which happen to be liberal), and now you're saying that TCD, and probably all colleges, are centres of mindless liberal group think?

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Gurgle

Internet Hero wrote: »

i am the only conservative in my class i think...

You just started, you haven't learned how to think yet.
Soon you'll be either a liberal or a dropout.

bodice ripper

Internet Hero wrote: »

could be because they get educated in a colege where liberal stuff is pushed at them...

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also, students are free (nay encouraged...) to read beyond the strictly required by the course.

Internet Hero

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You need to punctuate this, but if you're saying what I think you're saying, you're mixing up thinking with being smart. I never said liberals were "smarter".

Also, I never said conservaties weren't smart. I said they put more empahasis on faith then thought. You seem to be taking this is a negative remark (again, your punctuation is not very clear on this), which is not so. There is no inclination, again, that thinking is more virtueous than faith.



Okay, so you're anti-liberal. We get it.

You started off by asking why colleges were more liberal, now you're just going down the road of veiled attacks.

haha so liberal you are. and you believe what you say so you call it thinking, but it is just a opineon same as anyone. you are so arogant

Internet Hero

Gurgle wrote: »

You just started, you haven't learned how to think yet.
Soon you'll be either a liberal or a dropout.

typical liberal arogance. if i dont agree with you i dont know how to think. surely you can see how arrogant that is? jesus christ thats gross

Bannasidhe

bodice ripper wrote: »

also, students are free (nay encouraged...) to read beyond the strictly required by the course.

They are also free - nay they are encouraged - to disagree as long as they can back up their argument with things like evidence.

As for TCD being a hotbed of liberalism. hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.