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Advertising is a load of balls

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Chorcai




    this... sigh:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    otto_26 wrote: »
    Really what named products did he mention?

    Ah, but the OP shops in Tesco. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    otto_26 wrote: »
    I'm worried I'm not normal.. I don't care about brands or names of products I just buy the cheapest or best value item:confused:
    I buy what I perceive to be the best value item, when it comes to something I know nothing about I'm sure advertising has a part to play in my purchasing, it at least ensures I've heard of a product before, or am aware of it as a 'reputable' brand. I don't think the lifestyle or image claims made in advertising affect me though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Of course it's balls, but it works. Look at something like Coca-Cola - dodgy tasting sugar-water with no nutritional value exists entirely because of advertising.

    For that matter, companies are making a mint convincing people who live in 1st world countries - with perfectly fine tap water - that the tap water is dangerous and they should by bottled water (which is often just the same tap water in a bottle).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    My favorite example is bath gel. When I was young, everyone used bar soap. Then bath gels and loofahs and such came along - but for a good decade (ie the 90s), they were only feminine products. A bar of soap was the 'manly' option.

    Now bath gels are the norm it seems. They're basically just taking the bar soap, adding water to it, and charging you more, but everyone snaps them up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Yeah I'm not a fan of advertising but it has it's benefits for everyone.
    Advertising means you don't have to pay to use this website, watch certain tv channels etc., shíte as it may be.

    but you had to buy a TV!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    cafecolour wrote: »
    Now bath gels are the norm it seems. They're basically just taking the bar soap, adding water to it, and charging you more, but everyone snaps them up!
    I think prisons ruined the reputation of soap bars.

    Gels can be much more manly because they can put sand like stuff in them. I wish I could buy shower gel that was made of 50% sand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Gels can be much more manly because they can put sand like stuff in them. I wish I could buy shower gel that was made of 50% sand.

    Exfoliator?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Isn't it?

    Hand made crisps - yeah the lad on the machine had hands to press the buttons.

    The girl on the radio ad who whispers "sometimes it's ok to be yourself".....who the fcuk else could you be.

    Men's tolietries using sh*te such as "ice", "storm", "extreme", "turbo".....want to know something for free - i buy the deodorant/shower gel that happens to be on special in tesco that particular week.

    Seriously does anyone believe half the crap that's spouted?

    Mad Men my arse...

    not watching ads is stealing Telly. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Misty Chaos


    Advertising is just a necessary evil in this capitalist world, unfortunately.

    Everyone will claim ' Oh, advertising has no effect on me! ' The truth is, unless you've spent your entire life in a old fashioned, reclusive monastery then you are going to be influenced by advertising no matter what.

    Case in point - 10 years ago, who drank Captain Morgans & Coke? The modern popularity of that drink all came down to a very successful advertising campaign in the past few years. It's now actually my drink of choice, thanks to an in bar promotion giving out free samples - An example of advertising influencing my choices.

    That and seeing that advertising is everywhere, some of that stuff is gonna creep into your sub-conscious and then influence your decisions that you otherwise think are organic. On the topic of organic, people who only eat ' organic ' foods, again, even if they don't believe it, advertising had an influence in their decision.

    I better stop there as I'm probably stepping into a very large minefield as it is.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    Where To wrote: »


    If advertising didn't work you wouldn't be posting in this thread.

    No, Im posting BECAUSE it doesnt work, it only serves to annoy. Youre wrong, move on...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Andy!! wrote: »

    No, Im posting BECAUSE it doesnt work, it only serves to annoy. Youre wrong, move on...
    If it annoys you it works. How did you find this thread to post in? How did you find the internet capable device to enable you access this thread? How did you find your ISP?

    Advertising works, like it or not. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭dave3004


    My favourite ads are probably the Carlsberg ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,406 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Chorcai wrote: »


    this... sigh:mad:

    That clown on the left needs a slap in the back of the head to knock some smugness out of him.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    Where To wrote: »
    If it annoys you it works. How did you find this thread to post in? How did you find the internet capable device to enable you access this thread? How did you find your ISP?

    Advertising works, like it or not. :)

    You are failing to grasp a simple concept. If it annoys me, it is NOT working. Advertising is supposed to ENTICE people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭PickledLime


    Where To wrote: »
    If it annoys you it works. How did you find this thread to post in? How did you find the internet capable device to enable you access this thread? How did you find your ISP?

    Advertising works, like it or not. :)

    There's a difference between wanting to avail of products/services, then using the available information to determine which best suits your needs and buying the 'ice storm turbo edition' because of snappy advertising without really knowing what it does or why you've bought it.

    Do i wear Asics runners because i spotted some sports celeb promoting them? No, i wear them because they're usually a great fit for my foot and durable. Do i use Beats by Dre because celebs and idiots alike wear them as fashion accessories? No, i use Sennheiser headphones because the particular brand is famed for having a natural sounding sound profile, which is how i like to hear my music. Do i wear Osiris glasses because the pictures of them in Specsavers told me i'd be the hottest guy on the street with them? No, i wear them because they were the best fit in the style i was looking for (didn't even realise what brand they were until someone asked me and i had to take them off to check :pac:)

    I think you're confusing advertising that simply lets you know that a product is available (in my two examples the 'advertising' was having a shoe on the shelf in store and the headphones listed on a website) with advertising that pushes it in your face/tells you life isn't worth living without it/tells you how many more friends/members of the opposite sex you'll have just for owning it, preys on the gullible, etc., which is what the OP is rallying against.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭telecaster


    Where To wrote: »
    If it annoys you it works. How did you find this thread to post in? How did you find the internet capable device to enable you access this thread? How did you find your ISP?

    Advertising works, like it or not. :)

    I boycott products if I dont like the adverts for it. How is that advertising working?

    I've stopped eating Old El Paso since the advert with that David Cameron looking twat in a pullover who was compelled to dance salsa-style in response to the delicious Mexican food he was eating.

    I refuse to listen to Radio Nova because I hate their banner ads on this site where they try to trick you that they are some type of a counselling or shelter service for people with addictions etc, but really the addiction is to music or some crappy denouement along those lines.

    Ha ha Radio Nova, you fooled me, I thought you were campaigning to help the vulnerable, but no you're just whoring for JNLR figures.

    Hey advertiser guy, dont ever think you are providing some kind of altruistic or essential service to help us find 'threads' or 'ISPs', the forum and ISPs existed prior to internet advertising. You are not Tim Berners F~~king Lee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I think that advertising works, maybe not in the way the advertisers meant but defo works.

    I'd often sit down to watch a game of football on the TV and a beer ad will come one, usually Carlsberg, Heineken or Bitburger. It makes me want a beer, so I would usually pop across the street and pick up a few beers for the match, just not the ones being advertised but beers I actually like to drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Andy!! wrote: »
    You are failing to grasp a simple concept. If it annoys me, it is NOT working. Advertising is supposed to ENTICE people.

    You're actually failing to grasp the concept. Advertising works to plant a product in your sub-conscious. In many ways, the more irritating the better, as you WILL remember it, like it or not.

    GoCompare being the prime example, possibly the most annoying and successful ad campaign of recent times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Case in point - 10 years ago, who drank Captain Morgans & Coke? The modern popularity of that drink all came down to a very successful advertising campaign in the past few years. It's now actually my drink of choice, thanks to an in bar promotion giving out free samples - An example of advertising influencing my choices.
    Rum and coke has been a fairly well known drink for a long time. I remember a group of us cleaning a bar out of captain morgans and it would have been nearly 10 years ago. The Captain might find that their advertising campaign sparks little more than a fad of drinking rum and coke for a while, those drinks are to expensive to become anybodies regular. I do like a rum and coke every so often, I'd buy some proper sugarcane rum and a bottle of Dr Pepper though, tis lovely.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    summerskin wrote: »

    You're actually failing to grasp the concept. Advertising works to plant a product in your sub-conscious. In many ways, the more irritating the better, as you WILL remember it, like it or not.

    GoCompare being the prime example, possibly the most annoying and successful ad campaign of recent times.

    No. For the reason telecaster already mentioned. People refuse to buy products if the marketing campaign is annoying, unless they are some kind of spastic. For example, I would never use wimax cause of that annoying bald prat with the guitar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Advertising works on me to a certain extent. If I see an advertisement for crisps I might go and buy a bag, however they'll probably be a different brand to the ones being advertised.

    If I have no interest in something no amount of advertising will change my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    Andy!! wrote: »
    No, Im posting BECAUSE it doesnt work, it only serves to annoy. Youre wrong, move on...
    Andy!! wrote: »
    You are failing to grasp a simple concept. If it annoys me, it is NOT working. Advertising is supposed to ENTICE people.
    summerskin wrote: »
    You're actually failing to grasp the concept. Advertising works to plant a product in your sub-conscious. In many ways, the more irritating the better, as you WILL remember it, like it or not.

    GoCompare being the prime example, possibly the most annoying and successful ad campaign of recent times.
    Andy!! wrote: »
    No. For the reason telecaster already mentioned. People refuse to buy products if the marketing campaign is annoying, unless they are some kind of spastic. For example, I would never use wimax cause of that annoying bald prat with the guitar.


    WHY IS IT:
    A man wakes up after sleeping under an ADVERTISED blanket
    on an ADVERTISED mattress and pulls off an ADVERTISED pajamas
    bathes in an ADVERTISED shower/bath
    shaves with an ADVERTISED razor brushes his teeth with an ADVERTISED
    toothpaste, washes with an ADVERTISED soap/gel,
    puts on a wait for it......an ADVERTISED clothing brand
    drinks a cup of ADVERTISED coffee/tea
    drives to work in an ADVERTISED car and then.........

    refuses to believe in advertising


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Andy!! wrote: »
    No. For the reason telecaster already mentioned. People refuse to buy products if the marketing campaign is annoying, unless they are some kind of spastic. For example, I would never use wimax cause of that annoying bald prat with the guitar.

    Wrong wrong wrong. GoCompare saw a 44% increase in web traffic because of their campaign. Similar with Cillit Bang, webuyanycar.com, Wonga and many many others.

    The ads create awareness, and people are then pre-disposed to choose the name they have heard before somewhere when looking for a product that, usually, they have never needed before. It lends legitimacy to it by being on TV.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    otto_26 wrote: »
    Really what named products did he mention?

    eh, he did say tescos and going for what ever is a special. That's like the blitzkrieg of advertising that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Andy!! wrote: »
    No, Im posting BECAUSE it doesnt work, it only serves to annoy. Youre wrong, move on...

    You are not a unique, special snowflake.
    Advertising works on you, just as it works on everyone else.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    summerskin wrote: »

    Wrong wrong wrong. GoCompare saw a 44% increase in web traffic because of their campaign. Similar with Cillit Bang, webuyanycar.com, Wonga and many many others.

    The ads create awareness, and people are then pre-disposed to choose the name they have heard before somewhere when looking for a product that, usually, they have never needed before. It lends legitimacy to it by being on TV.

    Youre operating under the assumption that everybody who saw it found it annoying like you. Which they obviously didnt. As they gave them money. You dont reward people for irritating you. Again, incredibly simple concept you cant wrap your brain around. Bless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Andy!! wrote: »
    Youre operating under the assumption that everybody who saw it found it annoying like you. Which they obviously didnt. As they gave them money. You dont reward people for irritating you. Again, incredibly simple concept you cant wrap your brain around. Bless.

    No, my degree in media and communication plus 10+ years experience in managing large businesses and advertising budgets clearly means I don't understand the concept of advertising and how/why it works.

    Tell me, what makes you qualified to decide what makes an advertisement effective or otherwise?

    Bless.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    summerskin wrote: »
    No, my degree in media and communication plus 10+ years experience in managing large businesses and advertising budgets clearly means I don't understand the concept of advertising and how/why it works.

    Bless.

    Sorry, we all seemed to have over looked that part within your CV.


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