Grenade Fat Burners

Trek1974

Hi Folks

I have purchased a tub of Grenade fat burning tablets but dont seem to be getting any visable effects from then , Suppose to give you a pre work out kick , Two taken prior to gym as i train 6am in the mornings . Anyone else use these and what dosages are taken .


Dave

BroLo

How long have you been taken them? Are you watching your diet as well? When are you taking them?

Trek1974

Hi BroLo


Yes im on them about a week and have changed my diet to a high protein diet , Also doing extreme cardio classes as well, I just was expecting a bit of a kick from them prior to training . ??????

BroLo

Ok. Well ANY diet/supplement regiment won't show very visible results after just one week. Give it a few weeks. When I started I didn't see huge results immediately but I did shed 4 kg in 2 weeks I believe, but then I went on a bulking cycle, cutting won't be starting for another 2 months so I can't give you long term results.

I would suggest a 40:40:20 diet, Protein:Carbs:Fat, when taking Grenade Thermo Detonator.

They're not primarily intended as a "pre-workout kick", that's what the Grenade .22 Caliber is for, but it doesn't have the best reviews.

When I take them I have a 40:40:20 diet, eating Breakfast, Break-time snack, lunch, dinner (pre-workout, 1 hour before), and my post workout shake, all in that order. I usually take 2 in the morning BEFORE breakfast and 2 BEFORE dinner on workout days (Mon, Wed, Fri) and 1 before the two meals on non workout days (Tues, Thurs) and none on the weekends.

Are you just doing cardio classes? I suggest hitting the gym when taking these on a three day split (split it how you prefer) hitting every muscle at least twice.

DipStick McSwindler

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BroLo

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

do fat burners work well? never used them before and I have a tub at home so im just curious

What fat burner? It all depends what one you get. Have you read any online reviews of your one?

DipStick McSwindler

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BroLo

If you have them and you can't return them then take them. Might as well get your money's worth. From what I read quickly there its a good fat burner, but again nothing is intantaneous, there's no quick fix for burning fat. And what works for others may not work for you.

The most important thing is your diet!

DipStick McSwindler

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Trek1974

Hi Guys

I recently done a three month programme with strenght and conditioning and lost my big beer belly and improved my physique , I have tried every diet known to man over the years and the only thing that works is hard training and good diet .

Then i went on the piss for 2 months (Irish or what ) and put some back on , Currently 2 weeks into a RIP60 course and was given the Grenades by a friend so thought i would give them a go to speed up the process as i heard good reviews about them ,Just got the impression that they would give a massive burst of energy to a work out hence my original post. Will keep taking them BroLo and see how i get on .

BroLo

They do give you a buzz when you take them before a workout. At least they did for me anyway. I found myself hitting my targets faster and easier without a doubt.

Edwardius

Moved to health and fitness, This isn't a strength or strength sports related topic

DAINGNE

In relation to fat burners in general guys all a fat burner does is raise your heart rate, once your body produces a fat cell it can never, ever remove or burn it.
So save your money, if you're looking for a cost effective pre workout supplement then I suggest taking caffeine prior to your gym sessions be it in capsule form or just a regular cup of coffee.

BroLo

That is a very general statement. The OP is requesting advice on Grenade, have you experience in using this for a prolonged period of time? If not to be fair you can't know it's effectiveness. Not only is it caffeine, it also has green tea (natural fat burner), bitter orange peel (natural fat burner), cayenne pepper (to raise body temperature), phenylalanine (an amino acid) and green coffee. Grenade helps to attain a god metabolism for losing fat and also helps to curb your appetite to help reduce the amount of cravings you get.

Just my two cent on it.

DAINGNE

BroLo wrote: »

That is a very general statement. The OP is requesting advice on Grenade, have you experience in using this for a prolonged period of time? If not to be fair you can't know it's effectiveness.

It is a truthful statement, I know better than to waste my money on false products.

it also has green tea (natural fat burner),

Meh, Green Tea extract is proven to increase your metabolism by a small percentage it's hardly going to make the fat fall off you.

bitter orange peel (natural fat burner), cayenne pepper (to raise body temperature), phenylalanine (an amino acid) and green coffee.

For your information bitter orange peel hasn't gone under any real testing so for all we know, and what is widely speculated, it could have the exact same side effects as ephedra.

Now please post studies which prove that phenylalanine, cayenne pepper and green coffee burn fat.

Grenade helps to attain a god metabolism for losing fat and also helps to curb your appetite to help reduce the amount of cravings you get.

Did you read that off the label?

There is no shortcut to fat lose, if you want to lose weight eat at a caloric deficit, simple.

BroLo

DAINGNE wrote: »

It is a truthful statement, I know better than to waste my money on false products.

No it is a very general statement about fat burners. Have you used any, or are you just basing this off speculation?

DAINGNE wrote: »

Meh, Green Tea extract is proven to increase your metabolism by a small percentage it's hardly going to make the fat fall off you.

I never claimed it would make the fat fall off, and as I stated already diet is the biggest target (did you even read my other posts?), fat burners are an added bonus which may help.

DAINGNE wrote: »

For your information bitter orange peel hasn't gone under any real testing so for all we know, and what is widely speculated, it could have the exact same side effects as ephedra.

http://www.trulyhuge.com/bitter-orange-extract-benefits.html
"Bitter Orange Extract has been shown to be as effective as ephedrine for weight loss and metabolism, without the dangerous side effects."

Not speculation, and proven to not have the same side effects of ephedra.

DAINGNE wrote: »

Now please post studies which prove that phenylalanine, cayenne pepper and green coffee burn fat.

Where did I say phenylalanine burns fat? Or cayenne pepper for that matter? I didn't.

And green coffee has the same effects as green tea.

DAINGNE wrote: »

Did you read that off the label?

No I didn't read that off the label. I read it from unbiased reviews of the product as well as studies into the product. I am also speaking from personal experience of using the product.

DAINGNE wrote: »

There is no shortcut to fat lose, if you want to lose weight eat at a caloric deficit, simple.

Again did I say there was a shortcut to losing fat? No. I even said this:

BroLo wrote:

The most important thing is your diet!

I am well aware that the key to losing weight is eat at a caloric deficit. Fat burners can be used as an aid to shed the FAT a little bit faster. I was on a cutting regiment for 6 weeks, lost about 1kg in the first 4, added Grenade for the last 2 and lost 4kg.

xgtdec

BroLo wrote: »

. I was on a cutting regiment for 6 weeks, lost about 1kg in the first 4, added Grenade for the last 2 and lost 4kg.

Im just curious, if you lost 1kg in 4 weeks, can assume you would have lost 1.5kg in 6 weeks?

As it is you lost 5kg which is cool, but would you really attribute 4kg of that to grenade fat burners?? do those figures just seem a little ....unrealistic

DAINGNE

BroLo wrote: »

No it is a very general statement about fat burners. Have you used any, or are you just basing this off speculation?

No I'm basing it off of studies and common sense. It isn't too hard to research an ingredient profile nor is it difficult to be sceptical about what a supplement company claims.

http://www.trulyhuge.com/bitter-orange-extract-benefits.html
"Bitter Orange Extract has been shown to be as effective as ephedrine for weight loss and metabolism, without the dangerous side effects."

Not speculation, and proven to not have the same side effects of ephedra.

I asked for a proven study not a quote from a cheap website that sells supplements lol. If you really are that naive then I am wasting my time talking to you. You better buy some casein protein or else you'll lose all your muscles while you sleep at night and why not stack a testosterone booster for that matter?

Where did I say phenylalanine burns fat? Or cayenne pepper for that matter? I didn't. And green coffee has the same effects as green tea.

I assumed that in arguing the credibility of fat burners you listed ingredients that had some characteristics of burning fat. Why did you list them then?

No I didn't read that off the label. I read it from unbiased reviews of the product as well as studies into the product. I am also speaking from personal experience of using the product.

Please list some the studies of the product that you read, I'd love to read them.

BroLo

DAINGNE wrote: »

No I'm basing it off of studies and common sense. It isn't too hard to research an ingredient profile nor is it difficult to be sceptical about what a supplement company claims.

Let's see some of your studies so, seeing as you questioned mine. And you've never tried a fat loss supplement so? So it's not fair for you to comment on their effectiveness.

DAINGNE wrote: »

I asked for a proven study not a quote from a cheap website that sells supplements lol. If you really are that naive then I am wasting my time talking to you. You better buy some casein protein or else you'll lose all your muscles while you sleep at night and why not stack a testosterone booster for that matter?

No I am not naive. You are resorting to petty teasing at this point, insinuating that I am stupid and buy into everything I read, I am not.

"The supplement caused reductions in fat mass, percent fat,
and body mass but had little effect on energy expenditure, changes in appetite, or blood
chemistries (Armstrong et al., 2001)." Page 11 middle of first paragraph.

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/chem_background/exsumpdf/bitterorange.pdf

That "proven" enough for you?

DAINGNE wrote: »

I assumed that in arguing the credibility of fat burners you listed ingredients that had some characteristics of burning fat. Why did you list them then?

You clearly didn't read my post properly so. I listed them to show the other ingredients used and how they contributed to your body.

DAINGNE wrote: »

Please list some the studies of the product that you read, I'd love to read them.

I don't have them off hand as I was researching this product months ago before I bought it. I didn't bookmark the pages as I did not think I would have to argue the benefits of it.

BroLo

xgtdec wrote: »

Im just curious, if you lost 1kg in 4 weeks, can assume you would have lost 1.5kg in 6 weeks?

As it is you lost 5kg which is cool, but would you really attribute 4kg of that to grenade fat burners?? do those figures just seem a little ....unrealistic

Based on the figures I can only presume I would have lost 1.5kg in 6 weeks.

I started at 76kg when I began my cutting. Kept my cutting diet constant throughout the 6 weeks, cheating here and there, but I did this consistently. I finished my cut at 71kg, with more definition overall. Tracked my weight loss and 1 kg was lost after 4 weeks. Went on Grenade after some research (and an offer in Holland&Barrett) and lost 4kg over the remaining two weeks.

DAINGNE

No I am not naive. You are resorting to petty teasing at this point, insinuating that I am stupid and buy into everything I read, I am not.

"The supplement caused reductions in fat mass, percent fat,
and body mass but had little effect on energy expenditure, changes in appetite, or blood
chemistries (Armstrong et al., 2001)." Page 11 middle of first paragraph.

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/chem_background/exsumpdf/bitterorange.pdf

That "proven" enough for you?

That study is 8 years old, look up the 2012 one that proved it had a negative effect on the blood & heart.

You clearly didn't read my post properly so. I listed them to show the other ingredients used and how they contributed to your body.

Care to elaborate? Cayenne pepper may cause a rise in the body's temperature but what does that do? Many companies will add an ingrediant that makes you feel hot to give you the impression that their fat burner is literally burning fat when infact it really does nothing.
You also stated that phenylalanine is an amino acid, to be honest I dont really know much about Phenyalaine other than its used treat to people with depression & ADHD.
You didnt state what green coffee is supposed to do but the only study I looked into about it seemed pretty vague.

I don't have them off hand as I was researching this product months ago before I bought it. I didn't bookmark the pages as I did not think I would have to argue the benefits of it.

I sincely doubt you did any research into this product.

BroLo

DAINGNE wrote: »

That study is 8 years old, look up the 2012 one that proved it had a negative effect on the blood & heart.



Care to elaborate? Cayenne pepper may cause a raise the body's tempacture but what does that do? Many companies will add an ingrediant that makes you feel hot to give you the impression that their fat burner is literally burning fat when infact it really does nothing.
You also stated that phenylalanine is an amino acid, to be honest I dont really know much about Phenyalaine other than its used treat to people with depression & ADHD.
You didnt state what green coffee is supposed to do but the only study I looked into about it seemed pretty vague.



I sincely doubt you did any research into this product.

You know what, I'm done with you. I know I did my research. I know I'm benefiting from Grenade. You don't want to try it and that's your choice. The OP asked for advice on how to take Grenade and I provided him with my experience with it.

If fat burners don't work explain how after starting to take this I lost 4kg in two weeks, with no change in diet at all and my workouts remaining the same?

DAINGNE

You know what, I'm done with you. I know I did my research. I know I'm benefiting from Grenade. You don't want to try it and that's your choice. The OP asked for advice on how to take Grenade and I provided him with my experience with it.

If fat burners don't work explain how after starting to take this I lost 4kg in two weeks, with no change in diet at all and my workouts remaining the same?

Magic.
Enjoy your heart attack goals of 2013.

BroLo

DAINGNE wrote: »

Magic.
Enjoy your heart attack goals of 2013.

I shall, even though there's no proof that Grenade gives heart attacks. Great research though bro.

(Orange peel extract has not been proven to have any health risks to healthy people, only those with existing cardiovascular or other health problems.)

DAINGNE

BroLo wrote: »

DAINGNE wrote: »

Magic.
Enjoy your heart attack goals of 2013.

I shall, even though there's no proof that Grenade gives heart attacks. Great research though bro.

(Orange peel extract has not been proven to have any health risks to healthy people, only those with existing cardiovascular or other health problems.)

Read the 2012 study

BroLo

Care to link it? Cause Google isn't giving any results, and any results from 2012 I found all say inconclusive data, and that it only affects those with underlying conditions.

drdeadlift

Arguing over fat burners........