Re-Signings

Pudsy33

Quick question Lads. I've just tied Rice and Reed up to new deals. Now Flacco is looking to discuss terms. Am I able to franchise tag him at the end of the season or do i have to offer a new contract to keep hold of him?

I have offered a contract I can afford but which I doubt will be accepted. Basically, am I screwed? :pac:

etloveslsd

Put it this way, who is your back up? I look forward to playing him twice a year!!

Berty44

If he accepts it well and good. If not then you will have a opportunity to franchise tag one player at the end of the season and it can be him. It will tell you how much the franchise tag will be.

Pudsy33

etloveslsd wrote: »

Put it this way, who is your back up? I look forward to playing him twice a year!!

Step forward Tyrod Taylor :pac:

Berty44 wrote: »

If he accepts it well and good. If not then you will have a opportunity to franchise tag one player at the end of the season and it can be him. It will tell you how much the franchise tag will be.

I don't quite understand the franchise tag, is it basically a one year contract? Does it affect the salary cap?

Berty44

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Step forward Tyrod Taylor :pac:
I don't quite understand the franchise tag, is it basically a one year contract? Does it affect the salary cap?

Yes and Yes ( whatever salary you pay him for the year goes against the cap for that year. Its average salary of top 5 players in the position so usually loads of dosh )

etloveslsd

Pudsy33 wrote: »

I don't quite understand the franchise tag, is it basically a one year contract? Does it affect the salary cap?

It is the average of the top 5 salarys of that position for a single year. So for QB you will be looking at approx 10-13 million for a year

Pudsy33

Cheers lads! Hope Joe doesn't mind a pay cut may have to trim the squad and lower the wage bill.

etloveslsd

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Cheers lads! Hope Joe doesn't mind a pay cut may have to trim the squad and lower the wage bill.

The only thing with contract offers in this game, if he doesn't like the contract you offered, he can stop negotiations and will opt for free agency.

Pudsy33

etloveslsd wrote: »

The only thing with contract offers in this game, if he doesn't like the contract you offered, he can stop negotiations and will opt for free agency.

Yeah I think this is the direction its going tbh :P Oh well, my own fault!

etloveslsd

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Yeah I think this is the direction its going tbh :P Oh well, my own fault!

If he hits free agency, you can still bid on him, so all hope is not gone.

Enough help for the rivals!! Imagine him and Big Ben in a double QB set!! oh yeah!

Pudsy33

etloveslsd wrote: »

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Yeah I think this is the direction its going tbh :P Oh well, my own fault!

If he hits free agency, you can still bid on him, so all hope is not gone

True, but if I didn't have the cap space to re sign him I probably won't have enough to sing him. Sure we're a running team anyway :P sure it might all work out

adrian522

i think you should tag him if you can't get him resigned, that will give you another season to get him to sign a long term deal.

If Ray Lewis retires you should be OK for cap space. Talk to Santry he has the ravens on another CC franchise so is familiar with the cap situation.

davetherave

When do they decide whether to accept or tell you to go bugger yourself? Week advancement? Mr welker is deciding how much money I need to throw at him.

adrian522

Yeah, they'll respond the following week, either asking you to up your offer, to say the've accepted your offer or to tell you they'll be hitting FA.

etloveslsd

davetherave wrote: »

When do they decide whether to accept or tell you to go bugger yourself? Week advancement? Mr welker is deciding how much money I need to throw at him.

It sometimes appears in the twitter feeds before advancement, you know those ace reporters gettin the inside scoop

SantryRed

Pudsy,

I signed all three big players on close to the deals they wanted and was still under cap. Ray Rice had 4 years still on his contract so you could have just ignored him!

Pudsy33

SantryRed wrote: »

Pudsy,

I signed all three big players on close to the deals they wanted and was still under cap. Ray Rice had 4 years still on his contract so you could have just ignored him!

I didn't realise that! Thanks for the heads up

Paully D

It's safe to say there'll probably be a few decent Chargers up in FA next season as I haven't got a ****ing clue what I was doing when trying to do my contract negotiations :pac:

PerrinV2

Does it make a difference now that players are asking to negotiate contracts?
Will it make a difference if I just ignore them and leave it for a few weeks?
Also is it important to sign up contracts early as I see some ppl seem to be doing here?

etloveslsd

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Does it make a difference now that players are asking to negotiate contracts?
Will it make a difference if I just ignore them and leave it for a few weeks?
Also is it important to sign up contracts early as I see some ppl seem to be doing here?

It depends, if you leave it til postseason you will only have one chance to offer the contract, they will either accept it or opt for free agency. If you do it now they can negotiate.

Another reason for holding off is you can only negotiate with player coming to the end of a multi year deal. Guys on a one year deal can only be offered a contract in the post season. Player were were franchise tagged in real life fall into this category, so Mike Wallace in my case.

So say you have a squad player coming to the end of a rookie contract and you sign him up, that deal might take up the cap space needed to sign that free agent you picked up that is having a cracking season.

Decisions decisions, the joys of being a GM as well as being a head coach.

Hope this makes sense, and helps

mikemac1

Josh Cribbs rejects the Browns!

So be it, Browns have 47 million in cap space, we'll replace ya

It'll be like Christmas shopping next FA period with all my money

PerrinV2

I see,I have a player coming to the end of multi year contract now,he wants a new 4 one so I was thinking of negotiating it to 3 years since thats all we're playing.
I don't want to feck it up though as he's rated 89

etloveslsd

PerrinV2 wrote: »

I see,I have a player coming to the end of multi year contract now,he wants a new 4 one so I was thinking of negotiating it to 3 years since thats all we're playing.
I don't want to feck it up though as he's rated 89

Offer him the 4 year deal, doesn't matter if we aren't playing that long.

helimachoptor

4 years would be better as if you reduce it to 3 years he may want to cram 4 years cash into 3. If 10 million a year on a 4 he might want 13 million a year for a 3 year deal so your cap is reduced

PerrinV2

Ah I was completely reading the contract system wrong,longer is better not shorter

etloveslsd

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Ah I was completely reading the contract system wrong,longer is better not shorter

A players yearly salary goes up each year, so the last year is the most expensive.

Pudsy33

So Flacco came back to the negotiating table, wanted 66 million over 6 years, so I offered the required 11 million per year salary. Though that was safe, but according to Matt Miller on the twitter feed it seems to have been rejected :mad: Hey Mickey, what would you like for Gabbert? :pac:

helimachoptor

Going by what the PFL guys say i think you get a chance to sign him again at the end of the year?

Berty or Ben will know

SantryRed

helimachoptor wrote: »

Going by what the PFL guys say i think you get a chance to sign him again at the end of the year?

Berty or Ben will know

Nope, not if he rejects them, then he is anybodies.

Pudsy, are you offering him a bonus?

Pudsy33

helimachoptor wrote: »

Going by what the PFL guys say i think you get a chance to sign him again at the end of the year?

Berty or Ben will know

If he decides to test FA, then I will be unable to offer him a new contract. I will have to franchise tag him.

Pudsy33

SantryRed wrote: »

helimachoptor wrote: »

Going by what the PFL guys say i think you get a chance to sign him again at the end of the year?

Berty or Ben will know

Nope, not if he rejects them, then he is anybodies.

Pudsy, are you offering him a bonus?

I don't have the space to offer a bonus, not much of one anyway. I'll throw what I can his way if he let's me negotiate again. Realistically looks like he'll be getting the franchise tag. He can't reject that right?

PerrinV2

So what figure actually gets knocked off my spending money if his contract looks like this?
Years 4
salary 2.90M
bonus 1.10M
Total Value:16.00M

2013 2014 2015 2016
1.87M 2.44M 3.17M 4.12M

The_Gatsby

PerrinV2 wrote: »

So what figure actually gets knocked off my spending money if his contract looks like this?
Years 4
salary 2.90M
bonus 1.10M
Total Value:16.00M

2013 2014 2015 2016
1.87M 2.44M 3.17M 4.12M

Yeah this is confusing me too.

Also, guys are coming to me for negotiation. Are all of those players in their final year or can some of them have like 2 years left and just be looking for a longer contract? I can't find a way to tell how many years are left.

Berty44

PerrinV2 wrote: »

So what figure actually gets knocked off my spending money if his contract looks like this?
Years 4
salary 2.90M
bonus 1.10M
Total Value:16.00M

2013 2014 2015 2016
1.87M 2.44M 3.17M 4.12M

Each year he gets a bonus of 1.1million
On top of that each year he gets a salary
2013 0.77
2014 1.04
2015 2.07
2016 3.02

It is possible guys might want to renegotiate work out where they are in their deal. Make sure they are NOT on the last year if their deal !!! Only negotiate if its in your interest. You can ignore them and hope they go away. If last year you must negotiate or lose them

PerrinV2

Berty44 wrote: »

Each year he gets a bonus of 1.1million
On top of that each year he gets a salary
2013 0.77
2014 1.04
2015 2.07
2016 3.02

It is possible guys might want to renegotiate work out where they are in their deal. Mske dure they are NIT on the last year if their deal !!! Only negotiate if its in your interest. You can ignore them and hope they go away. If last year you must negotiate or lose them

Right so it's the 1.87 that'll be taken away this year from my spending money,I might try and offer a longer contract in order to knock it down
I feel like homer with all these questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGrWD2JwuCg

Paully D

Just re-signed Vaughn Martin by an accident. :mad: My own fault for only half paying attention to what I was doing, only realised when I seen the Tweet from one of the pundits saying that they don't know why I'm still keeping faith in him :pac:

PerrinV2

Lads looking for contract again,best option here is to offer them 6 years ya?

helimachoptor

Yes for resignings you can do this..

mikemac1

Browns went through the roster and there's only one resigning I want

Alex Mack center, very generous offer has been made

The rest can hit FA I suppose, nobody vital

helimachoptor

Yeah i'm the same mike.

I signed everyone to cap friendly contracts (apart from leach and my LT) Britt is easily cutable, as are the rest.

I should have a fair whack of cash at the next FA

Mikeyt086

I agreed a new deal with MJD, and my cap space went from £1.2m to £10.6m

Anybody know where that injection of funds came from? Not that I'm complaining.

Guffy

I would have assumed the max deal permitted would have been same as fa... 4 year deal max?

helimachoptor

No resigning are different

helimachoptor

What's the deal like mikey?

PerrinV2

Also those guys we signed on 1 year deals post draft,does the option to resign them come at the end of the year?
I actually don't want to resign most of them just wondering

Mikeyt086

helimachoptor wrote: »

What's the deal like mikey?

Can't for the life of me remember, but I do know 2 things:

a) I was initially surprised by how reasonable his demands were, the offer was very affordable for the Jags despite having only just made it out of pre-season in the green. It was a 6 year deal.

b) I had the Coach XP re-sign HB thing, so he was more likely to accept my offer.

But I had presumed he would see-out his final year of his current contract before entering the new one, so it seemed odd that £10m cap space would pop up from a player re-signing.

Rock Lesnar

Managed to resign Bethea, Mathis, Vontae Davis and a few others, the 3mentioned were pretty damn expensive but as they were all rated above 85, I had no choice but to splash the cash.

PerrinV2

Have many players come back to GM's looking for surprising deals?
Ppl don't need to divulge information but I will say for me my HB Moreno and RE Ayers came to looking for figures I did not expect.
Moreno is currently on 20mil 5 year deal....now wants a 1.5mil a year deal
Ayers is currently on 10mil 5 year deal...now wants 1mil a year deal
Am I reading this right that they now want less than half of what they were previously earning?

helimachoptor

you will find that Perrin, in another franchise the "star players" on expensive deals came back in most cases looking for less than half, while squad players in coming out rookie deals wanted double or triple!!

Mikeyt086

I've only had to do 3 re-signings, MJD, Eugene Monroe and Tyson Alualu. All 3 have taken pay cuts. Alualu in particular took an offer I made because I didn't care if he went to FA or not, and he accepted!

They must really buy in to Gordon Bombay's man management.

Rock Lesnar

helimachoptor wrote: »

you will find that Perrin, in another franchise the "star players" on expensive deals came back in most cases looking for less than half, while squad players in coming out rookie deals wanted double or triple!!

I found that the sqaud players i have took the same type of offer they had already and less in some other cases, My star players, Mathis, Davis and Bethea were looking for Crazy money that i payed in the end, after offering them less money each time before that