UFC 153: Silva vs Bonnar

preddy

Bonnar 6/1 can he win this?
I watched the hype video on the FX card and as usual I go a little sucked in.

Bonnar
1. Hes bigger
2. Hes never been knocked out or submitted
3. He's bigger...

Anyone think hes got a shot?

Locomotion

Would LOVE to see Bonnar pull the Rocky story but I just can't see it happening. His brawling style will be very quickly figured out by Silva who will pick him apart once Bonnar's timing is figured out.

Fair enough, Bonnar has never been knocked out but it's only a 3 round fight, if Silva is constantly hitting him and Bonnar just refuses to go down, Silva could easily just continue to keep hitting him to win a lopsided decision.

Will be interested to see Paddy Power's odds for 'Will the fight go the distance?'

unknown13

Forrest Griffin is bigger than Bonnar and Anderson Silva absolutely obliterated him.

Bonnar has never been knocked out but apart from a very young Jon Jones & Forrest Griffin. That is really it. Griffin was man handled by Anderson.

I like Bonnar a lot but he is going to be stopped in the first round.

Mr. Manager

Tempted to take a bet on Bonnar @9.5 (Betfair) - don't remember the last time someone drew such large odds. It's obviously fairly retarded but I can't pass a gamble

*awaits a rinsing from Mellor

josealdo

Does anyone else put large sums on the likes of GSP and silva and jones in fights ? I've made a nice return from such bets but when i look at long term capital management i do think of the phase " picking up nickels in front of a steamroller" any thoughts ?

The only way bonnar could pull this off if silva went in totally unprepared and totally under estimated him .........like GSP and Matt serra . (GSP had a 10 day training camp before than fight )

Mr. Manager

I've never backed GSP, JJ or Silva in any fights as there's no value.

EDIT: I've never backed them on a single but they've been included in accums before.

josealdo

dude , i got 500 back from 2000 on gsp v hardy .

josealdo

The only reason Bonnar is still in the UFC is because of that Bonnar/griffin fight , dana white is looking after him because that fight brought the UFC into the public eye . i can't see Bonnar winning

Ray Mond

No way in hell Bonnar can win end of story ! Silva made a fool on Forrest! It's only gonna go one way and it's a hidin for Bonnar , I think he'll finish him in the clinch with knees

JoeyJJ

This is Bonnar's goodbye he asked for a big fight that night on FX aftershow and Dana said No but looks like he got stuck for an opponent. This fight makes no sense to me unless Silva is going to vacate the MW title and move to LHW for a run of fights. The canvass will be bloodsoaked and Bonnars face will resemble minced meat after this one.

Awkward punch, leaving himself wide open
Two swifts jabs
repeat until Bonnar looks like Rocky I post fight (thats where the Rocky comparison will end).

preddy

figs666 wrote: »

The only reason Bonnar is still in the UFC is because of that Bonnar/griffin fight , dana white is looking after him because that fight brought the UFC into the public eye . i can't see Bonnar winning

Hes won his last 3 fights and always puts a show on tha'ts why hes still in the UFC.

Still abit pissed its at 205 and makes no sense why someone isnt getting a title shot at Silva but still hope Bonnar can make a fight of it.

Mr. Manager

preddy wrote: »

Hes won his last 3 fights and always puts a show on tha'ts why hes still in the UFC.

Still abit pissed its at 205 and makes no sense why someone isnt getting a title shot at Silva but still hope Bonnar can make a fight of it.

Wiedman must have been pretty pissed when he heard this

p to the e

unknown13 wrote: »

Bonnar has never been knocked out but apart from a very young Jon Jones. That is really it.

That fight was a decision win for Jones.

I think Bonnar is still around because he's a very exciting fighter to watch and in his fight with Kyle Kingsbury showed he has a very competitive ground game aswell. I think if Griffin and Psycho were to fight now, Bonnar would embarrass Griffin.

dave1982

See it ending like the Leben fight Bonnar going out on his shield. Bonnar will unleash a barage of punches Silva will drop him mid barrage

El Guapo!

I can see Bonnar being pounded for 3 rounds but ill be rooting for him nonetheless. He's got a lot of heart and I'd hate to see him get KO'd in what will probably be his last fight.

dickwod1

I cant believe Bonnar got this fight, Hes fought no one of importance in 3 years and he gets a title shot?
They should have left the spider out of 153 and put him in to 154 v Bisping (have a look at Bisping's fight record http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bisping and a much better fighter who could do it IMHO)
Far far better than Sonnan's record http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Bonnar and I dont think he even has a puncher's chance as Silva will do the Matrix moves on him and Bonnar wont even get close.

Professey Chin

It's not a title shot. It's a 205 fight. Silva said he'd fight but at 205 because it was too short notice for mw. Bonnar stepped up. That's it

Shazbot

This should be an interesting fight to say the least. I'd say Silva will get the TKO.

I don't see why people are upset about this fight. Silva wasn't planning on fighting until the new year and stepped up to fill in the card. Sure it's not a title fight but will still don't even know who's the number 1 contender at MW. This should just be a fun fight.

Bonnar turns to Forrest for advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE3oM0MPZ_c

dickwod1

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

It's not a title shot. It's a 205 fight. Silva said he'd fight but at 205 because it was too short notice for mw. Bonnar stepped up. That's it

OK its not a title shot my bad, However Silva is perhaps the best MMA fighter in the world ever and Bonnar is the opposite! Bar the finale fight with Griffin can you remember any of his fights? (I know I cant)

stefan idiot jones

Silva is by far the most dangerous man in the ufc. However, who ever thought that the Ice Man would come crashing down so spectacularly ? I never thought that man could have ever been beaten the way he was walking through some really good fighters. Come on Bonner.

pauldoo

i think you have to remember the UFC only put this fight on cause the main/co main event was scratched and they needed something quick. i think they've done quite well. looking forward, i think we win either way, either silva gets a highlight reel KO, or Bonner does some real rocky type ****.

would have loved to see edgar v aldo

Mellor

Locomotion wrote: »

Will be interested to see Paddy Power's odds for 'Will the fight go the distance?'

3/1 to go the distance

Locomotion

Mellor wrote: »

3/1 to go the distance

Now that's interesting because Paddy Power are offering Round betting all the way up to Round 5.

Is there a chance that PP aren't aware that this is only a 3 round fight and are giving away pretty decent odds here for the fight going the distance? Or has the fight been changed to a 5 round fight in the last week?

Mr. Manager

If they think it's a 5 round fight and are giving 3/1 on it going the distance then that's a pretty shit price.

Dancor

Locomotion wrote: »

Now that's interesting because Paddy Power are offering Round betting all the way up to Round 5.

Is there a chance that PP aren't aware that this is only a 3 round fight and are giving away pretty decent odds here for the fight going the distance? Or has the fight been changed to a 5 round fight in the last week?

5 rounds if its a main event.

Locomotion

Dancor wrote: »

5 rounds if its a main event.

Most MMA websites are saying it's a 3 rounder since the fight was taken on short notice by both fighters.

http://www.rantsports.com/mma/2012/09/13/anderson-silva-vs-stephan-bonnar-will-be-a-3-round-fight/

http://mmapayout.com/2012/09/silva-bonnar-new-main-event-at-ufc-153/

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/9/13/3324786/ufc-153-anderson-silva-vs-stephan-bonnar-3-rounds-mma-news

preddy

Somebody must know, id take that 3/1 on a 3 rounder but not 5.

Mellor

It's 3 rounds afaik.
PP don't apparently so there's some value in that 3/1 price

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

If they think it's a 5 round fight and are giving 3/1 on it going the distance then that's a pretty sh[COLOR="Black"]i[/COLOR]t price.

It's doesn't matter how many rounds they think it is. For 3 rds it's a good price imo

RainMaker

Really not looking forward to this - well I am, I am just not anyway excited about it at all. Seems like another main event that nobody really wanted...

I expect Bonnar to stand there and get beaten up for 3 rounds!

Just looking at the main events we have had this year compared to last year - the only fights that really got me interested this year were Jones V Rashad and Silva v Sonnen 2 & Diaz V Condit, the rest of the cards were pretty much thrown together due to injuries, etc

Compare that to last year:
UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem
UFC 140: Jones vs. Machida
UFC 139: Shogun vs. Henderson
UFC on Fox: Velasquez vs. Dos Santos
UFC 137: Penn vs. Diaz
UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage
UFC 134: Silva vs. Okami
UFC 133: Evans vs. Ortiz
UFC 132: Cruz vs. Faber
UFC 131: Dos Santos vs. Carwin
UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones

So we still got GSP V Condit and DosSantos V Cain 2 to come, but overall this year has been a bit disappointing in terms of fights that were actually delivered.

Mr. Manager

Mellor wrote: »

It's 3 rounds afaik.
PP don't apparently so there's some value in that 3/1 price


It's doesn't matter how many rounds they think it is. For 3 rds it's a good price imo

I was saying that for 3 rounds it a grand price but not for 5. For 5 I'd be expecting a little more in my favour, wouldn't you agree??

MrStuffins

The longer it goes the longer I like this fight.

I wouldn't be paying to see it but what else could UFC do on such short notice?

Silva wins of course, but if Bonnar puts up a good fight he might re-think retirement!

Mellor

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

It's 3 rounds afaik.
PP don't apparently so there's some value in that 3/1 price


It's doesn't matter how many rounds they think it is. For 3 rds it's a good price imo

I was saying that for 3 rounds it a grand price but not for 5. For 5 I'd be expecting a little more in my favour, wouldn't you agree??

Yeah completely agree. That's kinda what I meant.
PP think its a 5 rounder and quote a price that's in their favour. But because this looks to be a 3 rounder it's means its worth it for us.
I stuck 50 on it earlier. I think Bonnar survives the onslaught iften enough to just make it profitable.

Shazbot

Mellor wrote: »

Yeah completely agree. That's kinda what I meant.
PP think its a 5 rounder and quote a price that's in their favour. But because this looks to be a 3 rounder it's means its worth it for us.
.

PP have changed their round betting to show only 3 rounds and the odds for the fight going the distance are still 3/1. Very good value.

weemcd

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/10/10/3479602/morning-report-cormiers-trainer-wants-werdum-bonnar-preparing-ufc-153-exodus-brazil

Bonnar made headlines last week when he announced he may name his unborn son Griffin, an affectionate ode to his rival-turned-friend. And apparently, the expected arrival date for Bonnar's son is dangerously close to his date with Anderson Silva; close enough, that according to a report from TMZ, White has granted Bonnar access to his private jet to fly back to the United States immediately after the event to re-join his wife in case baby Bonnar decides to introduce himself early.

^ not sure how legit that is, but man is as mad as a bag of spiders. Child called Griffin Bonnar only needs versus as a middle name to ensure hilarity

Chavways

Even though I'm not a fan of Bonnar's, I will be screaming at the television at around minute 4 of the third round when he grips Silva into an extraordinary flying armbar.

Miracles do happen and I think Bonnar might be the man to pull one off.

Xlami

figs666 wrote: »

Does anyone else put large sums on the likes of GSP and silva and jones in fights ? I've made a nice return from such bets but when i look at long term capital management i do think of the phase " picking up nickels in front of a steamroller" any thoughts ?

The only way bonnar could pull this off if silva went in totally unprepared and totally under estimated him .........like GSP and Matt serra . (GSP had a 10 day training camp before than fight )

Not sure if the person is on the forum but I was in an MMA shop in town one day and over heard two people talking about someone they knew who had 40 grand on Fedor when he lost to Werdum. 1-8 on. I'm not sure where he had the bet now becuase I would have thought that's way over most of the bookies limits. Whole story could be bull but just thought I'd share it with you.

MrStuffins

Xlami wrote: »

Not sure if the person is on the forum but I was in an MMA shop in town one day and over heard two people talking about someone they knew who had 40 grand on Fedor when he lost to Werdum. 1-8 on. I'm not sure where he had the bet now becuase I would have thought that's way over most of the bookies limits. Whole story could be bull but just thought I'd share it with you.

For a start, those odds seem bullsh*t to me.

Yes, Fedor was unbeaten up until then, but never looked unbeatable!

Not only that, but he was fighting a 2 time World BJJ Champ, 2 time ADCC Champ and a top MMA Heavyweight with it.

Anyone who puts 30k on something like that deserves what they get!

Xlami

MrStuffins wrote: »

For a start, those odds seem bullsh*t to me.

Yes, Fedor was unbeaten up until then, but never looked unbeatable!

Not only that, but he was fighting a 2 time World BJJ Champ, 2 time ADCC Champ and a top MMA Heavyweight with it.

Anyone who puts 30k on something like that deserves what they get!

Well I actually remmeber Fedor being 1-6 on Paddys so the odds could be believable. Could just be hyperbolae but I do agree with you. I've been betting against Fedor since the Sylvia fight.

weemcd

Xlami wrote: »

Well I actually remmeber Fedor being 1-6 on Paddys so the odds could be believable. Could just be hyperbolae but I do agree with you. I've been betting against Fedor since the Sylvia fight.

I remember seeing hendo's odds before he fought fedor and I knew he was over-priced as favuorite after his previous two fights.

Mellor

I think it's a bit silly to say anyone who bets $30k deserves what they get. It's not a big bet for a Pro gambler. All depends on you bankroll.

That said, I don't think I believe the story. I don't think any book would take a 40k bet on MMA. Certainly not one involving M-1 global or any other less wel known promotors.
The total of all bets in Anderson Silva on Betfair is currently only $4k. Just to give you an idea of the volume on MMA

fightireland

40K at 1/8 max win is 5k definitely worth the liability for a bookie.

Sean Quagmire

Have Rick Story and Bonnar in a 20e double myself

Ray Mond

Of course most bookies would take the 40 k at 1/8, on another note glover texeria, Phil davis, nogeria and Maia all for the wins hopefully

Sean Quagmire

Ray Mond wrote: »

Of course most bookies would take the 40 k at 1/8, on another note glover texeria, Phil davis, nogeria and Maia all for the wins hopefully

Maia let me down big time twice before. Would not back him again if you paid me to.

califano

Silva to beat Fitch is a model.

Mellor

rounders123 wrote: »

Silva to beat Fitch is a model.

Bookies have it almost at 50/50.
Leaning towards Fitch myself

Ray Mond

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

Ray Mond wrote: »

Of course most bookies would take the 40 k at 1/8, on another note glover texeria, Phil davis, nogeria and Maia all for the wins hopefully

Maia let me down big time twice before. Would not back him again if you paid me to.

Yeah I know he's a risky one but he brings the odds up a bit it was a toss between him and Fitch, I know Fitch can grind out a win but coming off a bad KO , I think he might get KO'd again.

califano

Mellor wrote: »

Bookies have it almost at 50/50.
Leaning towards Fitch myself

Yeah i like the scratch matches!. But he has home advantage and at this stage age on his side. Also off the back of a couple of very good performances. Can see him exploding onto the scene with this win.
Actually funking for Fitch if i dont plunge in after been watching Fight Factory. Silva 4/6 PP but still practically scratch elsewhere.

SDTimeout

weemcd wrote: »

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/10/10/3479602/morning-report-cormiers-trainer-wants-werdum-bonnar-preparing-ufc-153-exodus-brazil

Bonnar made headlines last week when he announced he may name his unborn son Griffin, an affectionate ode to his rival-turned-friend. And apparently, the expected arrival date for Bonnar's son is dangerously close to his date with Anderson Silva; close enough, that according to a report from TMZ, White has granted Bonnar access to his private jet to fly back to the United States immediately after the event to re-join his wife in case baby Bonnar decides to introduce himself early.

^ not sure how legit that is, but man is as mad as a bag of spiders. Child called Griffin Bonnar only needs versus as a middle name to ensure hilarity

Middle name should be vs.

SevereMMA

I heard that Fitch is nearly 7-1 to finish Silva

Good odds, still think Silva will win though

PauloConn

Can't see him finishing Silva but fancy him and Story to edge Maia. He'll stand again instead of taking it to the mat and getting a sub. He's gotten me in the past before. How can someone with his level of BJJ think its good to keep a fight standing??? It doesn't make sense......
But if i am going for a rollup, it's Fitch, Teixeira, Davis and Nog.