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    #1082
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with saying "Ann Coulter is a person whose death I will celebrate." She is an absolutely hateful person.
    I've little doubt she deserves every bit of dislike she arouses. Nonetheless, I feel it's a little un-A+A to phrase one's disgust at a fellow human as bluntly as that. A little more subtlety might have had a few more people showing up for the dance :)


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    #1083
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    She's not exactly a 'group hug' person based on her own words. She doesn't like people like me (or the majority of us here) so I don't have to like her. I'm not much of a humanist, more of a nihilist. Lots of people are ****s after all - religious or not. We can discourage ***tish behavour by speaking out against it, being nice will, on its own, achieve shag all.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1084
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    [...] being nice will, on its own, achieve shag all [...]
    It's best to maintain the moral high ground over somebody whose empty days are filled with attempts to take it.


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    #1085
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    robindch wrote: »
    I've little doubt she deserves every bit of dislike she arouses. Nonetheless, I feel it's a little un-A+A to phrase one's disgust at a fellow human as bluntly as that. A little more subtlety might have had a few more people showing up for the dance :)

    Those were my honest feelings about her. I think she's a vile waste of a human being, whose only ambition is to spread her poison of bigotry.


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    #1086
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Those were my honest feelings about her.
    They may well be, but it's still best to tone some things down.


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    #1087
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Aenaes wrote: »
    Ann Coulter's representatives may sue for monetary compensation.

    Mohammad's representatives may do other things but not that.

    Money rules. :P

    Under what basis could they sue?


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    #1088
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    It may be me, but were there a number of posts deleted?

    Yeah, it was me. Wrong thread.


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    #1089
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,216 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    She's not exactly a 'group hug' person based on her own words. She doesn't like people like me (or the majority of us here) so I don't have to like her. I'm not much of a humanist, more of a nihilist. Lots of people are ****s after all - religious or not. We can discourage ***tish behavour by speaking out against it, being nice will, on its own, achieve shag all.

    Is you celebrating the death of Anne Coulter any better than someone else celebrating the deaths of, e.g., gays or atheists? If you don't have to like Anne Coulter, then on what possible grounds can you object to or complain about her not liking you?

    Your defence of your own position effectively sets Anne Coulter up as your moral benchmark. You're not so much a "treat others as you would wish them to treat you" person as a "treat others as they do treat you" person. An eye for an eye, and all that. How very Old Testament of you! ;)

    Or, to put it more succinctly, you say "speaking out against it", others will say "engaging in the same ***tish behavour". You see the problem?


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    #1090
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Is you celebrating the death of Anne Coulter any better than someone else celebrating the deaths of, e.g., gays or atheists?

    Take that up with the person who said it.
    I said there was nothing wrong with the poster expressing their opinion, they were not advocating violence or anything.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1091
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


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    #1092
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's not my phrasing though. Did you see the post immediately above yours?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1093
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Is it just me or do we have 2 threads which have gone off and converged into the same discussion just on 2 fronts?


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    #1094
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    The mod team have mentioned it internally and we're a lazy auld bunch.

    Until a definitive decision is made just consider one thread with spin up and the other with spin down. If that doesn't make sense then then think about it in terms of threads not taken. Diverged in a yellow wood, sorry you cannot travel both you decide to explore one thread in your mind before deciding to take the one less travelled on.


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    #1095
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The mod team have mentioned it internally and we're a lazy auld bunch.

    Until a definitive decision is made just consider one thread with spin up and the other with spin down. If that doesn't make sense then then think about it in terms of threads not taken. Diverged in a yellow wood, sorry you cannot travel both you decide to explore one thread in your mind before deciding to take the one less travelled on.

    Said the Traveler.
    Knocking on the moonlight door.


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    #1096
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Until a definitive decision is made just consider one thread with spin up and the other with spin down. If that doesn't make sense then then think about it in terms of threads not taken. Diverged in a yellow wood, sorry you cannot travel both you decide to explore one thread in your mind before deciding to take the one less travelled on.
    I agree. I think.


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    #1097
    legspin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    Just out of curiosity, when did we get all the extra mods?
    I thought we only had four; Dades, Rob, Turt and Asiaprod, who isn't around much anymore. I know Scofflaw was category mod but where did all the others spring from?


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    #1098
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,517 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    legspin wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, when did we get all the extra mods?
    I thought we only had four; Dades, Rob, Turt and Asiaprod, who isn't around much anymore. I know Scofflaw was category mod but where did all the others spring from?

    I think it's a bug.


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    #1099
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    The official answer is that they become cat mods. The unofficial answer is they gave us biscuits.


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    #1100
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,358 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    legspin wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, when did we get all the extra mods?
    I thought we only had four; Dades, Rob, Turt and Asiaprod, who isn't around much anymore. I know Scofflaw was category mod but where did all the others spring from?

    A bug since the category reshuffle. All the CMods names are now lumped in with the mods names. Same on pretty much every forum.


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    #1101
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ^^ This.

    The devs are trying to iron out this wrinkle and others at the moment.


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    #1102
    legspin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    Cula bula. Like I said, just curious.
    Thank you.


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    #1103
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    This has just been bothering me the last few days,

    Can we rename the cat this forum is in?
    As we know it currently states " Religion & Spirituality" but Atheism isn't a religion and certainly for me its not Spiritual. This makes it misleading for people.

    Could the cat be perhaos renamed Non-Religion/Religion & Spirituality,
    I feel this is fair and balanced, and as we know from some very vocal Catholics lately....balance is important ;)


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    #1104
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Aren't atheism and agnosticism defined by their relationship to religion and spirituality?

    Atheist related stuff always falls into similar categories when searching for podcasts, blogs etc. I really don't believe people are mislead, or have difficulty finding the forum.


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    #1105
    Cynthia Little Appendix
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Cynthia Little Appendix


    Dades wrote: »
    Aren't atheism and agnosticism defined by their relationship to religion and spirituality?

    Atheist related stuff always falls into similar categories when searching for podcasts, blogs etc. I really don't believe people are mislead, or have difficulty finding the forum.

    Would a "Silence Appreciation" forum be a sub-category of the Music forum though?

    The 'problem' is that by definition it does not fit in the category it is assigned, but it is most aptly associated with the category as the complement of it.

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    #1106
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Dades wrote: »
    Aren't atheism and agnosticism defined by their relationship to religion and spirituality?

    Atheist related stuff always falls into similar categories when searching for podcasts, blogs etc. I really don't believe people are mislead, or have difficulty finding the forum.

    I wasn't suggesting people are having trouble locating the forum,
    However, now that you say it including "non-religion or non-belief / religion & spirituality" would I believe make it clear what the cat covers.

    The cat title is slightly misleading in that in allows religious people to reenforce their belief that atheism is a type of religion or belief system, this is damaging and we've seen in this forum and other sites that many religious people incorrectly believe this.


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    #1107
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,210 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    On the other hand it is first in the cat and therefore the most important. You never know it might catch someone on their way down to religion.


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    #1108
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    looksee wrote: »
    On the other hand it is first in the cat and therefore the most important. You never know it might catch someone on their way down to religion.

    Thats true,
    But I just think changing the cat to something like
    "Non-belief, Religion & Spirituality" properly describes the forums in the cat,

    Atheism obviously has "links" to religion in that its the opposite of a faith so its good its with the other forums, but i just feel the current cat name is misleading for the Atheist part of this forum.


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    #1109
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    This was discussed fairly recently

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1110
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    I didn't know we had a cat.


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    #1111
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    More than one. The mods herd them, apparently.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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