2014 - Results

ecoli

Probably a little over due as the US season kicked off a few weeks back but for those interested here is a brief update:

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=27579

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=27634

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=27739

And today Quinn had another solid performance coming 8th in Paul Short while Sarah Collins was third in the womens race:

http://runhigh.com/2012RESULTS/R092812AA.html

ecoli

Jake Byrne was 19th in a quality field including some of the NCAA favourites in Louisville. 5th scorer for Iona who won:

http://alltraxtiming.homestead.com/glc_mengoldrez.pdf

Christ compels you

David Rooney and Breandan O'Neill also in action at the Notre Dame meet.

Place TmPl Name School Cl Time
===== ==== ====================== ================================= == =======
1 1 CHRIS O'HARE TULSA JR 23:33
2 2 HENRY LELEI TEXAS A&M SR 23:36
3 3 TEREFE EJIGU EASTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY SR 23:39
4 4 JAKUB ZIVEC FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY JR 23:40
5 5 DAVID ROONEY MCNEESE STATE UNIVERSITY SR 23:41
6 6 JEREMY RAE NOTRE DAME SR 23:46
7 7 SOUFIANE BOUCHIKHI EASTERN KENTUCKY UNIVERSITY JR 23:53
8 8 PAULO PINHEIRO TULSA SR 23:55
9 9 BREANDAN O NEILL FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY SR 23:56
10 10 ALEJANDRO ARROYO YAMIN PRINCETON UNIVERSITY JR 23:57

tendon

Interview with Ciaran o lionaird. http://www.ontrackandfield.co.uk/

myflipflops

Paul Pollock was 34th in the world Half Marathon Champs running 65.38. The conditions were 'hot and humid' according to the IAAF. It's a good performance and will be interesting to see what he does over the full marathon whenever he tries one.

Another possibly relevant result is that Gemma Steel from GB ran 71.09 for 7th in the womens events. Steel was 3rd behind Fionnuala Britton at Euro Cross last year and is considerably slower than her on the track over 10km.

wgtomblin

Thomas Frazer 24th place in Chicago marathon on Sunday in 2:18:37 following on from his win over half the distance last month.

Dathan Ritzenheim posted 3rd fastest ever time by an American (2:07:47) in the same race.

wgtomblin

myflipflops wrote: »

Paul Pollock was 34th in the world Half Marathon Champs running 65.38. The conditions were 'hot and humid' according to the IAAF. It's a good performance and will be interesting to see what he does over the full marathon whenever he tries one.

Which, according to Athletics Ireland website will be the Dublin marathon later this month. It could be an interesting race for the National Championship this year.

ecoli

wgtomblin wrote: »

Which, according to Athletics Ireland website will be the Dublin marathon later this month. It could be an interesting race for the National Championship this year.

Dunno will it be that competitive I know a fair few of the top lads wont be running this

thirstywork2

ecoli wrote: »

Dunno will it be that competitive I know a fair few of the top lads wont be running this

Are you serious?this is the most competitive mens race in many years.

Alot of unknowns with Pollock & heir making their debuts.

Sean Heir ran 2.09.xx for 24 miles in training(5.23 average)
sergiu is Mr consistant and Barry Minnock if he can nail it on the day won't be far away.Throw Gary O Hanlon & Joe Mc in the mix for a medal.
Pollock if he doesn't go out too hard should win but it's a marathon so who knows.
I really think Sean Heir can get the better of Sergui over the marathon(even with Sergiu's experience)

sean connolly out alright but am I missing anyone else who is injured?
Brian Maher doesnt run and Gary Thornton or Mark Kenneally

Did I miss anyone else?

woodchopper

thirstywork2 wrote: »

Are you serious?this is the most competitive mens race in many years.

Alot of unknowns with Pollock & heir making their debuts.

Sean Heir ran 2.09.xx for 24 miles in training(5.23 average)
sergiu is Mr consistant and Barry Minnock if he can nail it on the day won't be far away.Throw Gary O Hanlon & Joe Mc in the mix for a medal.
Pollock if he doesn't go out too hard should win but it's a marathon so who knows.
I really think Sean Heir can get the better of Sergui over the marathon(even with Sergiu's experience)

sean connolly out alright but am I missing anyone else who is injured?
Brian Maher doesnt run and Gary Thornton or Mark Kenneally

Did I miss anyone else?

I presume Sean Hehir will easily win if that workout is to be believed. If Sean can run a 24 miler at 2.21 pace in the middle of a 120 mile week with all his races he is some man! There is the issue though of overcooking things in marathon training and I hope this is not the case. Sean judging by this workout is capable of a 2-14-2.16 if conditions are suitable. Pollock is another man with a 2.15 capability if his training is geared towards the marathon. I heard him talk about Euro Cross around the time of the national half.

wgtomblin

I think that it promises to be one of the most competitive national champs in years, with maybe 4 or 5 guys capable of running 2:15 - 2:18. Tactics and the conditions could play a big part. It's a pity that the TV cameras will probably be solely focused on the overall race leaders and the interviews with Z-list "celebrities" as usual!

pconn062

wgtomblin wrote: »

I think that it promises to be one of the most competitive national champs in years, with maybe 4 or 5 guys capable of running 2:15 - 2:18. Tactics and the conditions could play a big part. It's a pity that the TV cameras will probably be solely focused on the overall race leaders and the interviews with Z-list "celebrities" as usual!

I don't think there are TV cameras or coverage this year, The National Lotto paid for that and seen as they pulled their sponsorship I presume the coverage went with it.

woodchopper

Sarah Collins 6th in the Wisconsin Invite on Friday. Very competitive field. Dave Rooney was top ten in the Pre nats with Brendan O Neil in the twenties.

What is the Euro Cross Mens team going to look like if all our top guys are doing the Dublin marathon? I guess Gerry Farnan next Sunday may give indications on potential form of John Coughlan, Mark Hanrahan, maybe Big Joe.

thirstywork2

woodchopper wrote: »

Sarah Collins 6th in the Wisconsin Invite on Friday. Very competitive field. Dave Rooney was top ten in the Pre nats with Brendan O Neil in the twenties.

What is the Euro Cross Mens team going to look like if all our top guys are doing the Dublin marathon? I guess Gerry Farnan next Sunday may give indications on potential form of John Coughlan, Mark Hanrahan, maybe Big Joe.

David McCarthy will win handy enough in the GF XC.

climbhigh

thirstywork2 wrote: »

David McCarthy will win handy enough in the GF XC.

Hopefully the Clonliffe pair (Stephen Scullion and Sarah McCormack) will mix it up front ......

Women: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631823247080/

Men: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631823596654/

Ceepo

Spot on TW2.
He was flying .
Very high standard with almost 120 out if 153 athletes under 30 minutes

metamagical

climbhigh wrote: »

Women: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631823247080/

Men: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631823596654/

Thanks for the links - so that's what it looked like up near the business end of things! I would've loved to have seen McCarthy win it, but the leaders were off so fast from the gun that from midfield it was impossible to see what was happening. What a great race

runjb

Fionnuala Briton put in a very impressive performance to once again take victory in the Gerry Farnan event. She looks in great shape and should be well up for the challenge that will present itself in Budapest when she will aim to defend her European title.

There seems to be vibes that the Senior women could challenge for a team medal in this years Euros XC. Linda Byrne and Ava Hutchinson seem both to be on course to compete in CC which would add some good strength. Sarah McCormack was second in Gerry Farnan. Any other possible strong contenders for the team?

Getoffmytrain

Decent results in the Big East XC today from Shane Quinn and Sarah Collins.
Both finished second.

http://www.bigeast.org/portals/5/fls/19400/stats/crosscountry/2012/men-results.htm

http://www.bigeast.org/portals/5/fls/19400/stats/crosscountry/2012/women-results.htm

Rineanna

runjb wrote: »

There seems to be vibes that the Senior women could challenge for a team medal in this years Euros XC. Linda Byrne and Ava Hutchinson seem both to be on course to compete in CC which would add some good strength. Sarah McCormack was second in Gerry Farnan. Any other possible strong contenders for the team?

Mary Cullen is apparently back in training and gunning for the team.

ecoli

Few Irish competed at the SEC conference (US)

24 #187 Flynn, David JR Arkansas 24:36.76 24
57 #191 Lieghio, Anthony SR Arkansas 25:31.00
65#256 Monaghan, Andrew FR Mississippi State 25:37.75
95 #257 Monaghan, Patrick FR Mississippi State 26:31.27

ecoli

Full list of the weekends XC results from the US & UK:

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=28456

runjb

I wonder how many of the US athletes will be drafted home for the nationals or straight onto the Irish team for Euro XC?

Senior women's team looking possibly strong this year:

Fionnuala Britton, Linda Byrne, Ava Hutchinson, Mary Cullen, Sarah McCormack, Sara Louise Tracey and probably some more...

Any word if Ciara Magaeen is competing in CC this year?

ecoli

runjb wrote: »

I wonder how many of the US athletes will be drafted home for the nationals or straight onto the Irish team for Euro XC?

Can't see too many running nationals due to proximity to NCAA s however would be surprised not to see Quinn, O Neill, Collins and Rooney all drafted in given there form thought it is still early days in the US season

Jogging Newbie

ecoli wrote: »

Can't see too many running nationals due to proximity to NCAA s however would be surprised not to see Quinn, O Neill, Collins and Rooney all drafted in given there form thought it is still early days in the US season

Jake Byrne beat Shane Quinn 2 weeks ago and is significantly quicker over 5000m. Surely he would merit a selection in prefernce to Shane based on current form?

ecoli

Jogging Newbie wrote: »

Jake Byrne beat Shane Quinn 2 weeks ago and is significantly quicker over 5000m. Surely he would merit a selection in prefernce to Shane based on current form?

Missed that result I think. There has always been a closed connection with Providence athletes making the team so could well be a case that both make the team

woodchopper

Jogging Newbie wrote: »

Jake Byrne beat Shane Quinn 2 weeks ago and is significantly quicker over 5000m. Surely he would merit a selection in prefernce to Shane based on current form?

Both Shane Quinn and Jake Byrne have run between 14.00 and 14.10 for 5k. Dont know where you got your facts from. Also Quinn came second in the Big East and will comfortably beat Jake in the NCAAs. Quinn is the top runner in his cross country team although in fairness Iona are a lot stronger and better coached than Providence. Jake should be automatic for Euros as well

Mens Senior Team: Dave McCarthy, Michael Mulhare, Brendan O Neil, Mark Kenneally?, Joe Sweeney? and Paul Pollock if he recovers. If not Dan Mulhare will make the team with Eddie McGinley and John Coughlan not too far off.

Any words of Andrew Ledwith. He could make the team if in full training.

ecoli

woodchopper wrote: »

Both Shane Quinn and Jake Byrne have run between 14.00 and 14.10 for 5k. Dont know where you got your facts from. Also Quinn came second in the Big East and will comfortably beat Jake in the NCAAs. Quinn is the top runner in his cross country team although in fairness Iona are a lot stronger and better coached than Providence. Jake should be automatic for Euros as well

Mens Senior Team: Dave McCarthy, Michael Mulhare, Brendan O Neil, Mark Kenneally?, Joe Sweeney? and Paul Pollock if he recovers. If not Dan Mulhare will make the team with Eddie McGinley and John Coughlan not too far off.

Any words of Andrew Ledwith. He could make the team if in full training.

I think Pollock will have a tough time recovering in time remember he has had three big races recently (National Half, World Half and DCM)

Also interesting no Rooney in the predictions I would have thought he would be a front runner for one of the spots as has been running well all year and has been racking up XC wins (admittedly not in once of the toughest conferences in the US but still)

woodchopper

ecoli wrote: »

I think Pollock will have a tough time recovering in time remember he has had three big races recently (National Half, World Half and DCM)

Also interesting no Rooney in the predictions I would have thought he would be a front runner for one of the spots as has been running well all year and has been racking up XC wins (admittedly not in once of the toughest conferences in the US but still)

He needs to either run the national trials or finish really high to justify making the senior mens team. That the problem he and Brendan O Neil face . Coming 40th in the NCAA is tough but will it be enough to get selected for a senior team?

Jogging Newbie

woodchopper wrote: »

Both Shane Quinn and Jake Byrne have run between 14.00 and 14.10 for 5k. Dont know where you got your facts from. Also Quinn came second in the Big East and will comfortably beat Jake in the NCAAs. Quinn is the top runner in his cross country team although in fairness Iona are a lot stronger and better coached than Providence. Jake should be automatic for Euros as well

If you look through the results of this race you will see where Byrne beat Quinn.
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/249798-2012-Wisconsin-XC-Invitational/article/14810-RESULTS-2012-Wisconsin-adidas-Invitational-College-Races

In addition Byrne ran 14 mins 01.99 and Shane ran 14 mins 10.66. Ten seconds is significantly faster at that level. Its 60metres at that pace and I would count that as significant.
http://www.tilastopaja.org/db/toplist.php?list=topirl&All=0&Ind=0&top=20&Season=2012
These stats are available here on the links provided - that my friend is where I get my facts.

The NCAA's will be interesting - we may revisit your post after that.:D

woodchopper

Jogging Newbie wrote: »

If you look through the results of this race you will see where Byrne beat Quinn.
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/249798-2012-Wisconsin-XC-Invitational/article/14810-RESULTS-2012-Wisconsin-adidas-Invitational-College-Races


The NCAA's will be interesting - we may revisit your post after that.:D

Oh come on now! They finished in the exact same time 24.13. You make it out as if Byrne taught Shane Quinn a lesson or something.

Jogging Newbie

woodchopper wrote: »

Oh come on now! They finished in the exact same time 24.13. You make it out as if Byrne taught Shane Quinn a lesson or something.

Incorrect again Woodie!! I merely said Byrne beat him in a cross country race and is significantly quicker over 5000m. I am not trying to make out anything - merely stated two facts.

Its great to see David McCarthy going so well this winter. Does anybody know if Sarah Collins will run the trials or Euro Cross? She would be a huge addition to the Junior girls.

Any more predictions for the teams?

woodchopper

Jogging Newbie wrote: »

Jake Byrne beat Shane Quinn 2 weeks ago and is significantly quicker over 5000m. Surely he would merit a selection in prefernce to Shane based on current form?

You clearly indicate here that Jake Byrne should be selected in perference of Shane Quinn on the back of them drawing with one another in a early season meet. Also 5000 on the track is a lot different to a cross country race. I am not incorrect again sir. You seem to have great knowledge for a running newbie

climbhigh

Some photos from Dublin cross-country championships:

Junior women: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631927734635/
Junior men: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631928480574/
Senior women: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631927996869/
Senior men: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24280411@N06/sets/72157631930105350/

Video snippet senior men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmsy3WLyMh4&feature=plcp

james11111

it is nice to see byrne and quinn in such prolific form this season!!
I think they both warrant automatic selection!!
However Jake is 10 seconds faster than Shane this season,and also has a 2-0 head to head record since they both moved stateside!! i watched them both in Wisconsin they both looked comfortable however Jake had a far better kick and will be even stronger at 10k

also read the results you will see jake Quinn finished 3 spots ahead of Quinn and also would not be so certain about Quinn beating Byrne let alone comfortably!! hope they both finish well

Clum

Not exactly a cross country result but it may affect the outcome of this years Euro championships.

Lots of reports in the French speaking world about last year's European Cross Country Champion Atelaw Bekele missing three "whereabouts" check-ups. He'll be facing the Flemish Doping Tribunal on November 20th and more than likely receive a suspension.

Here's one report. The gist of it, via google translate, is:

Atelaw Bekele will appear Nov. 20 in front of the Flemish Doping Tribunal (VDT), Sporza reported Thursday. The Belgian athlete of Ethiopian origin, European champion cross country in December 2011 in Velenje (Slovenia), three offenses in the system "whereabouts".

The VDT respond Thursday afternoon.

In the context of the fight against doping, the athletes are required to indicate their "whereabouts" in order to be localized to a doping control.

On three occasions, the controllers are presented at an address where Bekele was not. According to the regulations of WADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency, three missed tests equivalent to a positive control. Bekele is likely to be suspended.

Atelaw Bekele, 24, arrived in Belgium in 2004 as a political refugee. He obtained Belgian nationality in 2008.

Besides the title of European champion Bekele was Belgian champion cross country in 2009 and 2011 and won the last edition of the Crosscup.

Bekele is one of 30 nominees for the Sports Trophy Belgian 2012.

ecoli

Regionals from the US:

http://www.deltatiming.com/results/xcresults.aspx?yf=2012&mf=2012-ncaa-xc-south-regional&ev=2&sp=True

Collins looks to have got 2nd also:

http://www.gophoto.it/view.php?i=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7RtM0aCAAE4aFE.jpg#.UJ1SY8Uxq8A

(best I could do as its off twitter)

Christ compels you

Shane Quinn was 3rd and Jake Byrne 8th in the Northeast region.

ecoli

Strong squad in action today in Burgos:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/britton-takes-on-classy-field-in-bid-to-find-top-euro-gear-3287955.html

YFlyer

Christ compels you wrote: »

Shane Quinn was 3rd and Jake Byrne 8th in the Northeast region.

Only two Irish in all the Regionals?

Michael Mulhare in the States?

ecoli

YFlyer wrote: »

Only two Irish in all the Regionals?

Michael Mulhare in the States?

Collins and O Neill second also in their respective races (timing actually had O neill joint 1st on time in link above)

Mulhare is running in Burgos with Dave Mac, Britton etc

YFlyer

Thanks ecoli

Was Mulhare meant to go to college in the States this year? Think he was eligible to compete for one more year in the collegial.

brutes1

Any results from the British and Irish masters XC in queens today

dna_leri

brutes1 wrote: »

Any results from the British and Irish masters XC in queens today

http://www.nirunning.co.uk/news

dna_leri

Good article about XC & road running in IT today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/1110/1224326410543.html

Mumontherun

dna_leri wrote: »

Good article about XC & road running in IT today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/1110/1224326410543.html

Good article? Contradictory? Writer doesn't want to plug road race and does exactly that. Old news... Xc too competitive and tough for the 1000s of recreational road runners. There's no goody bag or money to be won at XC, unless you are senior elite.

pconn062

mumontherun wrote: »

Good article? Contradictory? Editor doesn't want to plug road race and does exactly that. Old news... Xc too competitive and tough for the 1000s of recreational road runners. There's no goody bag or money to be won at XC, unless you are senior elite.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with this bit or not. Running is a sport, it's meant to be about competition, not about goody bags and medals and so what if it's tough? Road running is tough, cross country is just a different kind of tough.

(This is probably a discussion for another thread!).

ecoli

mumontherun wrote: »

Good article? Contradictory? Editor doesn't want to plug road race and does exactly that. Old news... Xc too competitive and tough for the 1000s of recreational road runners. There's no goody bag or money to be won at XC, unless you are senior elite.

Not always,

http://www.lizmcdonnellrun.com/gallery2012.html

I do think though there needs to be more of these style of races to allow the midset to bridge the gap between Road Running and athletics/XC

runjb

Fionnuala Britton had a very good 4th place (2nd European) finish in Spain today.

However, European runners were much closer this year with British girl Jennifer Coulson taking third place, 6 seconds clear of Fionnuala. The defence of her title is well and truly on now and it is going to be a tough one! Ava Hutchinson a good 9th in the same race, with Sarah McCormack 13th.

On the men's side David McCarthy was the leading Irish man in 18th, with Michael Mulhare 25th.

Ceepo

Great result from Sean Tobin in Burgos, Spain finishing in 2nd place,
Fionnuala Britton 4th. David Mc Carthy 18th, Michael Mulhare 25th, Brian Maher 40th
Results http://www.crossatapuerca.com/nw/

Mumontherun

pconn062 wrote: »

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with this bit or not. Running is a sport, it's meant to be about competition, not about goody bags and medals and so what if it's tough? Road running is tough, cross country is just a different kind of tough.

(This is probably a discussion for another thread!).

Sorry yes wrong place to post this, mods feel free to delete or move.