Weanling Prices

jimmydkid

Hi lads, just wondering does anyone know how weanling bulls are going? iv 15 red limousine bulls to sell a mix of R and U grades(mostly R) around 300kg live-weight, cant seem to get to mart for a look to see how things are going

Juniorhurler

jimmydkid wrote: »

Hi lads, just wondering does anyone know how weanling bulls are going? iv 15 red limousine bulls to sell a mix of R and U grades(mostly R) around 300kg live-weight, cant seem to get to mart for a look to see how things are going

Unfortunately Jimmy they are exactly the type of weanlings that are trading poorly at the moment. Around here you wouldn't get more than €700 a head for them.

jimmydkid

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Unfortunately Jimmy they are exactly the type of weanlings that are trading poorly at the moment. Around here you wouldn't get more than €700 a head for them.

Jez thats not great i might take a chance and feed them on for another while, i suppose with weather and feed prices weanlings wont be a great trade this back end

Farmer Pudsey

Bucket fed weanling 200-250kgs how much are they making, WH, AA and British Fresians

bob charles

Had a nice long R grade whitehead curly weanling at 340kgs for €625, not in anyway a shipping calf but a lovely rough calf for finish in 10 months

simx

bob charles wrote: »

Had a nice long R grade whitehead curly weanling at 340kgs for €625, not in anyway a shipping calf but a lovely rough calf for finish in 10 months

where was this bob?

bbam

bob charles wrote: »

Had a nice long R grade whitehead curly weanling at 340kgs for €625, not in anyway a shipping calf but a lovely rough calf for finish in 10 months

Hi bob.
That's a nice weight for a ten month old, was that a bucket reared calf? If so what type of feeding regeim was it on?

leg wax

bbam wrote: »

Hi bob.
That's a nice weight for a ten month old, was that a bucket reared calf? If so what type of feeding regeim was it on?

he didnt say he was 10 months old:rolleyes:

bbam

leg wax wrote: »

he didnt say he was 10 months old:rolleyes:

Oohhh..
so he didnt..

bob charles

bbam wrote: »

Hi bob.
That's a nice weight for a ten month old, was that a bucket reared calf? If so what type of feeding regeim was it on?

He is around a year I would think and hasnt seen a great time so weighed poorly IMV, would imagine he was a suckler. He seemed to appreciate my good silage last night anyway. Vaccinated and wormed today and got off out to meet his new buddies.

He will probably graze till 1st of dec then go on beet tops with a little hay till 15th of feb (substance living) and back to grass then and hopefully on good quality grass by 1st of April, buffer feed on grass from may onwards and kill 1st August, hopefully all things going right.

jimmydkid

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Bucket fed weanling 200-250kgs how much are they making, WH, AA and British Fresians

i got a chance to have a look at cashel mart today and the bulls wer selling for between 250 and 320 over the weight, best aa and wh were making the higher price. i didnt see any heifers selling

Muckit

bob charles wrote: »

He is around a year I would think and hasnt seen a great time so weighed poorly IMV, would imagine he was a suckler. He seemed to appreciate my good silage last night anyway. Vaccinated and wormed today and got off out to meet his new buddies.

He will probably graze till 1st of dec then go on beet tops with a little hay till 15th of feb (substance living) and back to grass then and hopefully on good quality grass by 1st of April, buffer feed on grass from may onwards and kill 1st August, hopefully all things going right.

What kind of weight and money would you be hoping for by 1Aug 2013 bob with that lad?

jimmydkid

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Unfortunately Jimmy they are exactly the type of weanlings that are trading poorly at the moment. Around here you wouldn't get more than €700 a head for them.

i got to cashel mart today and the tops continental wer making around €520 over their weight with the average being €380-€420. heifers were back alot from those prices

bob charles

Muckit wrote: »

What kind of weight and money would you be hoping for by 1Aug 2013 bob with that lad?

probably average kilo a day liveweight over how long I have him, but he will be in survival mode for 3 - 4 months (last month at grass/2 months on beet tops hay/first month at grass of 13). so around 640kg live weight and 360kgs dead if killed around the 1st of August 13. As you well know there is allot to go wrong between now and then. Take interest on money alone if he makes it that far there will be €50 interest to be cleared of his head, Im not going to do the exact figures as they are depressing and probably wont leave a whole lot of money and this is for a reasonable priced animal.

Kevin1150

Ballinasloe on saturday, some good charlaois calves 400kg (not overdone) made 1000-1100:eek:, 350kg 950-1000. Alot of fed calves and bulls and lots of costumers for them. Bought a load the saturday before but none yesterday:(

ordinary farmer

jimmydkid wrote: »

i got to cashel mart today and the tops continental wer making around €520 over their weight with the average being €380-€420. heifers were back alot from those prices

castlerea yesterday the first wenling sale.! nice square lim calfs round 210-240.. 5 of them from the same man average 600 each only for i hadnt the sheds cleaned out they would be home with me

1chippy

its the start of silly season with sfp and das coming in. there will be plenty of overpriced stock running through in the next few weeks.

Muckit

Kevin1150 wrote: »

Ballinasloe on saturday, some good charlaois calves 400kg (not overdone) made 1000-1100:eek:, 350kg 950-1000. Alot of fed calves and bulls and lots of costumers for them. Bought a load the saturday before but none yesterday:(

Be worth your while to take a day off and go on a wednesday. Pick up 400kg for handy enough money;)

bbam

1chippy wrote: »

its the start of silly season with sfp and das coming in. there will be plenty of overpriced stock running through in the next few weeks.

Glad to hear it... I have a few to go out

Kevin1150

Muckit wrote: »

Be worth your while to take a day off and go on a wednesday. Pick up 400kg for handy enough money;)

No days off when farming full time:D More costumers on a Sat Muckit? Gunna try Ballina, Balla, Ballinrobe this mon, tues, wed. Never at them before. Is there good storey weanling calves there? Meant to be 400 in ballina tommorow

red bull

charolaois sale Tuam tomorrow 300 bulls 200 heifers

john mayo 10

sold 2 bulls and 2 heifers today in ballina ch bulls made 560 with there weights (414 kgs made 975 euros ) and ch heifers made average 460 with there weights (256kgs made 735)

simx

Muckit wrote: »

Be worth your while to take a day off and go on a wednesday. Pick up 400kg for handy enough money;)

whats handy money?

Dozer1

Was in Kilmallock today,
lots of average to poor quality FR weanling bulls there all around 280kgs, best of them made 440, some poorer ones around 200kgs just made over the 300 euro mark.

average quality CH bulls making 300 with the weight up to 500 with the weight for export quality, not that there was many of them there

simx

anyone in castleisland want to give some sample prices?

jimmydkid

john mayo 10 wrote: »

sold 2 bulls and 2 heifers today in ballina ch bulls made 560 with there weights (414 kgs made 975 euros ) and ch heifers made average 460 with there weights (256kgs made 735)

Your a happy man so, They must have been quality animals

bob charles

weanlings are bouncing around in price everyday depending on the marts for some reason. There are no clear prices

Juniorhurler

bob charles wrote: »

weanlings are bouncing around in price everyday depending on the marts for some reason. There are no clear prices

True but the marts renowned for shipping are fairly consistent around here.

red bull

Originally Posted by furandfeather
Attachment 222678
Put this pic up a few months ago.
HWN of a simmental cow.
Sold him today in tuam
500 kgs - 1360
Was delighted with it

oldsmokey

red bull wrote: »

Originally Posted by furandfeather
Attachment 222678
Put this pic up a few months ago.
HWN of a simmental cow.
Sold him today in tuam
500 kgs - 1360
Was delighted with it

piccy didnt come out, terrific price...its really a whole waste of time to be selling these weanling at e700 - 800 ...costs e750 to keep yer cow for the year, so any chance of a penny profit is gone with the calf..so why not hang onto the calves at least til next spring (assuming space /time etc)?..or go the whole hog and finish the animal, atcurrent prices theres a quid in it..

red bull

Prices from Tuam yesterday, it was a great sale. Examples of prices
char bulls
430kg €1060
302 €840
315 €960
520 €1400
440 €1330
340 €970
char heifers
350kg €980
230 €600
310 €725
490 €1000
410 €1100

J DEERE

Any idea what Holstein bull weanlings are worth at the moment? They're roughly 240kg. What would be a realistic asking price selling off the field?

john mayo 10

jimmydkid wrote: »

Your a happy man so, They must have been quality animals

the 2 heifers and 1of the bulls were by CXY and other bull was bx PIO
.

kevthegaff

any idea what cull fresian cows are making?

bob charles

kevthegaff wrote: »

any idea what cull fresian cows are making?

€200 upwards to €1 a kilo for straight out of the parlor, good sorts pushing to €1.20 a kilo, have seen allot of cows sold for under €300 in the last few weeks

kevthegaff

bob charles wrote: »

€200 upwards to €1 a kilo for straight out of the parlor, good sorts pushing to €1.20 a kilo, have seen allot of cows sold for under €300 in the last few weeks

jes thats not good, might keep milking them on then

Juniorhurler

oldsmokey wrote: »

piccy didnt come out, terrific price...its really a whole waste of time to be selling these weanling at e700 - 800 ...costs e750 to keep yer cow for the year, so any chance of a penny profit is gone with the calf..so why not hang onto the calves at least til next spring (assuming space /time etc)?..or go the whole hog and finish the animal, atcurrent prices theres a quid in it..

Probably for another debate but total outgoings last year divided by no. of cows here in a suckler system selling weanlings left us on €480 per cow. €750 sounds serious high.

locky76

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Probably for another debate but total outgoings last year divided by no. of cows here in a suckler system selling weanlings left us on €480 per cow. €750 sounds serious high.

have you included your fixed costs (sheds, tractors etc.) and depreciation in this €480 per cow cost???

simx

Kevin1150 wrote: »

No days off when farming full time:D More costumers on a Sat Muckit? Gunna try Ballina, Balla, Ballinrobe this mon, tues, wed. Never at them before. Is there good storey weanling calves there? Meant to be 400 in ballina tommorow

how did you get on??

jimmydkid

Gona chance selling a few on sat, Seems to be a big differance in marts, i was at a mart on friday and lim bulls were making €400 with ther weight and on sat in an other mart similer bulls were making €460 wit there weight

Kevin1150

simx wrote: »

how did you get on??

Got to buy suitable stock in balla and ballina last week 259c/kg

so went back again this week...stronger trade today but stronger calves at 275c/kg

bob charles

jimmydkid wrote: »

Gona chance selling a few on sat, Seems to be a big differance in marts, i was at a mart on friday and lim bulls were making €400 with ther weight and on sat in an other mart similer bulls were making €460 wit there weight

i would say its not the difference in marts just the differences in days and moods of farmers. its a very strange trade this year

tkehoe

Kevin1150 wrote: »

Got to buy suitable stock in balla and ballina last week 259c/kg

so went back again this week...stronger trade today but stronger calves at 275c/kg

what breeds were these kevin? also what kg?

Kevin1150

tkehoe wrote: »

what breeds were these kevin? also what kg?

They are charlaoisx averaging 340kgs.

Usually wouldn't buy as strong but too many customers for the 850-900 bracket. Finding better value up the weights but trying not too buy age either.

Grecco

Oct. 09, 2012ENNIS MART WEANLING BULLS & HEIFERS, DAIRY & SUCKLING STOCK, CALVES AND SHEEP
A big sale of 1071 cattle and 240 sheep on offer. A very strong trade for weanling heifers and runners. Good quality bulls held the trade but plainer and especially the lighter plain ones were back €20 a head. Suckler cows with calves at foot made up to €1430. Lambs made up to €102 or €50 over their weight.

Weanling Bulls: €300 to €910 over their weight.
Char 370kgs €1090; Lim 350kgs €1080; Char 320kgs €1080; BBX 490kgs €1400; Lim 265kgs €970; Sax 275kgs €860.

Weanling Heifers: €270 to €785 over their weight.
Char 335kgs €1120; Lim 345kgs €940; Char 310ks €920; Lim 485kgs €1040; 3 Char 282kgs €770; Lim 250kgs €750.

epfff

Grecco wrote: »

Oct. 09, 2012ENNIS MART WEANLING BULLS & HEIFERS, DAIRY & SUCKLING STOCK, CALVES AND SHEEP
A big sale of 1071 cattle and 240 sheep on offer. A very strong trade for weanling heifers and runners. Good quality bulls held the trade but plainer and especially the lighter plain ones were back €20 a head. Suckler cows with calves at foot made up to €1430. Lambs made up to €102 or €50 over their weight.

Weanling Bulls: €300 to €910 over their weight.
Char 370kgs €1090; Lim 350kgs €1080; Char 320kgs €1080; BBX 490kgs €1400; Lim 265kgs €970; Sax 275kgs €860.

Weanling Heifers: €270 to €785 over their weight.
Char 335kgs €1120; Lim 345kgs €940; Char 310ks €920; Lim 485kgs €1040; 3 Char 282kgs €770; Lim 250kgs €750.

dear dear

bob charles

seems credit facilities in marts is restricting a couple of the main players for weanlings, this is what I am being told from the guys who are at the business. No longer are way out, post dated cheques being accepted and rightly so, no harm in making buying a level playing field and making sure the marts are on sound financial footings

pakalasa

epfff wrote: »

dear dear

You really can't compare prices from mart reports without seeing the quality of the animals. Ennis weanlings are generally good suckler types. Grass is scarce too so animals may not have much condition on them, making them seem dear on a price per Kg basis.
Places like Kilmallock might seem good value, but the land around there is very good quality and a lot of dairy dreeding in the area.

adne

Any report from the big sale in Mohill??

maxiflex

A new weanling sale in Headford on Friday(yesterday) wasnt there but friend ! said you could pick up nice weanlings at a farmers price. I have some booked in to Tuam on Monday usually more buyers there, anyone at sale in Headford tell me how good/bad it was ?

porter shark

heard headford only so so yesterday alright. what breed calves you bringing to tuam?