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Another gangland murder in dublin

  • 28-09-2012 3:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,231 ✭✭✭beer enigma


    Third one this week happened this afternoon on Cherry Orchard Avenue, Ballyfermot - apparently a high profile victim - details just coming through on news


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Happening during the day too.
    Awaits details.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    cloptrop wrote: »
    The gangland trade must be very worthwhile. People are dying to get into it .


    Not funny :rolleyes: criminal or not, someone just lost their life

    Edit: Maybe he didn't lose his life but violence isn't the answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    This cycle will continue until they're all dead or all lifted off the streets. You kill one, we kill one and sadly there doesn't seem to be anyway of stopping it short of internment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    As long as the innocent aren't hurt then let them off I say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Andip wrote: »
    Third one this week happened this afternoon on Cherry Orchard Avenue, Ballyfermot - apparently a high profile victim - details just coming through on news

    Is Joe Duffy Ok?:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    vicwatson wrote: »
    As long as the innocent aren't hurt then let them off I say
    Shane Geoghegan!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well known criminal family.
    This may be linked to Alan Ryan or the other murderers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    This cycle will continue until they're all dead or.......
    Drugs are legalised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭omega666


    Is this all payback by the RIRA for that Alan Ryan fella being killed i wonder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Irish_wolf


    I feel sorry for the under staffed forensics team. So many killings over the past few weeks. Must have their work cut out for them...

    Not so much sympathy for the 'High profile' gang member.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,658 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Not trying to be funny, but I read the title as "another grandad murder in dublin".

    The guy who did get shot was a well known scummer! His brother is far worse, and Im not surprised that this happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    There must be huge profits if killing eachother is worth the risk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Eh, I still don't believe the Fianna Fail "roving band of criminals" complaint:P

    How many is that now though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A winter of discontent in gangland Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    Sad news when this happens,but i do have an evil streak inside of me that loves hearing about murders like this in Ireland,like its all gangster,Sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Shane Geoghegan!

    Whats your point? mine is that let them kill each other but not innocent people, or didn't you get that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Believed to have been shot while collecting his kids from school, you would have to wonder was this by accident or have they really stooped so low as to make sure it was in front of the kids like the other 2 shootings this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    More feckin checkpoints tonight then so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Fight_Night


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Whats your point? mine is that let them kill each other but not innocent people, or didn't you get that?

    If you let these incidents go unpunished then innocent people will end up getting killed. That was his point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Andip wrote: »
    Third one this week happened this afternoon on Cherry Orchard Avenue, Ballyfermot - apparently a high profile victim - details just coming through on news



    Quick bit of googling done, Think the poster who mentioned the RIRA could well be right...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Fight_Night


    nudger wrote: »
    Believed to have been shot while collecting his kids from school, you would have to wonder was this by accident or have they really stooped so low as to make sure it was in front of the kids like the other 2 shootings this week.

    Disgrace, no matter how much of a scumbag he may have been, in front of his kids is out of order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭celt262


    If you let these incidents go unpunished then innocent people will end up getting killed. That was his point.


    It was nothing to do with letting these incidents go unpunished.

    anyway

    The people involved can be punished and innocent people can still get killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    I think the fact that the last few murders took place in front of children is one of the most disturbing things I've heard in a long time.
    If you're in that " business" then I think its obvious that you have to deal with the consequences of that line of work. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    But whether or not these guys are scum or murderers themselves I think it's profoundly wrong for anyone to commit such an act in front of children. If the odds weren't stacked against them enough they now have to deal with witnessing their father gunned down in front of them.

    Life has become very cheap in Ireland lately. I'm not shocked by murders anymore, particularly gangland ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Its only a matter of time before one of these coked up cowboys opens up in busy street or shopping centre

    then the sh1t will hit the fan we call ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Life has become very cheap in Ireland lately. I'm not shocked by murders anymore, particularly gangland ones.

    Lately? Did you miss the Troubles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    token101 wrote: »
    Life has become very cheap in Ireland lately. I'm not shocked by murders anymore, particularly gangland ones.

    Lately? Did you miss the Troubles?
    I would have been a child when the troubles were going on so its not something I knew a huge amount about except that neighbours cousins were sent down from the north to stay for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    Like I said with the last one. **** them. Hope they wipe each other out. And if I hear Shane geoghans name been mentioned once more ffs. Yes innocents sometimes get caught up in it and its terrible but so long as they got the right man who cares. Hopefully someone else will be taken out in retaliation for this and long may the cycle continue
    And as for been shot in front of the children. Maybe it will be a painful but valuable lesson and they will choose a different career


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭jeni


    vicwatson wrote: »
    As long as the innocent aren't hurt then let them off I say

    So true, but it is scary all these guns around


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Slunk wrote: »
    Like I said with the last one. **** them. Hope they wipe each other out. And if I hear Shane geoghans name been mentioned once more ffs. Yes innocents sometimes get caught up in it and its terrible but so long as they got the right man who cares. Hopefully someone else will be taken out in retaliation for this and long may the cycle continue
    And as for been shot in front of the children. Maybe it will be a painful but valuable lesson and they will choose a different career
    I could be reading this incorrectly but are you saying that sometimes innocent people get shot but once the original target gets shot eventually then it's ok?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Its only a matter of time before one of these coked up cowboys opens up in busy street or shopping centre

    then the sh1t will hit the fan we call ireland

    Nah, only in Hollywood flicks. People who open fire in streets, malls, schools etc tend to have personality disorders or have been badly bullied. "Gangsters" tend to keep a low profile and try not to draw too much attention to themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    What I'm saying is if they deserve it then its no great loss and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if more of the same were to be taken out. Let's face it the gaurds/justice system is a joke so the only hope is they get taken out.
    People get up on their high horse when someone is shot but I say **** them. It's understandable if it was an innocent but why the concern for these scumbags


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Slunk wrote: »
    What I'm saying is if they deserve it then its no great loss and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if more of the same were to be taken out. Let's face it the gaurds/justice system is a joke so the only hope is they get taken out.
    People get up on their high horse when someone is shot but I say **** them. It's understandable if it was an innocent but why the concern for these scumbags

    Because of our humanity, Batman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Slunk wrote: »
    Like I said with the last one. **** them. Hope they wipe each other out. And if I hear Shane geoghans name been mentioned once more ffs. Yes innocents sometimes get caught up in it and its terrible but so long as they got the right man who cares. Hopefully someone else will be taken out in retaliation for this and long may the cycle continue
    And as for been shot in front of the children. Maybe it will be a painful but valuable lesson and they will choose a different career


    Don't know about that Slunk, lot of these kids get wheeled out as insperation for young family gang members to get revenge and before they know it they start getting involved and reminded of deeds done on their behalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Fight_Night


    Slunk wrote: »
    What I'm saying is if they deserve it then its no great loss and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if more of the same were to be taken out. Let's face it the gaurds/justice system is a joke so the only hope is they get taken out.
    People get up on their high horse when someone is shot but I say **** them. It's understandable if it was an innocent but why the concern for these scumbags

    Because if this trend of gangland shooting in broad daylight continues more innocent people will inevitably be killed. Look at the bigger picture ffs, scumbags will never become extinct, always someone to replace the dead man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    All I'm saying is I've no sympathy for them. As I said the justice system doesn't seem to be working so I'm not to worried about this sort of justice been dished out. I don't think they would be so reckless as before concerning innocents after Shane geoghan and I don't think the gaurds would be looking too hard for these shooters, especially since the Guy the other day was a cop killer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Shot dead in front of his kids.

    That's just sick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Just seen a quick bit of TV3'S coverage of the shooting, the area covered in young lads in hoodies laughing, skobies, you'd think a Hollywood star was in town not a shooting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    It's W***** that was shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    nudger wrote: »
    It's W***** that was shot.

    Correct.


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  • Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭ Mallory Jolly Cowhide


    Shot dead in front of his kids.

    That's just sick.

    It wasn't in front of his kids, he was from a notorious crime family and his two brothers are convicted hitmen currently in jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,453 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Slunk wrote: »
    And as for been shot in front of the children. Maybe it will be a painful but valuable lesson and they will choose a different career
    great, lets have parents being shot in front of their children and screw up the children for the rest of their lives, ah shur they will probably be even more determined to join gangs and seek revenge but never mind, as long as you have people being shot to gloat over then life is wonderful.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    nudger wrote: »
    It's W***** that was shot.
    Can you pm me who w ***** is .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    Slunk wrote: »
    And as for been shot in front of the children. Maybe it will be a painful but valuable lesson and they will choose a different career
    great, lets have parents being shot in front of their children and screw up the children for the rest of their lives, ah shur they will probably be even more determined to join gangs and seek revenge but never mind, as long as you have people being shot to gloat over then life is wonderful.

    In fairness with a killer and drug dealer for a father I don't think he would of had the best chance anyway. Maybe this would make the kids think twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    cloptrop wrote: »
    Can you pm me who w ***** is .

    Could you PM me too, please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,453 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Slunk wrote: »
    I don't think the gaurds would be looking too hard for these shooters, especially since the Guy the other day was a cop killer
    well if their professional then they will, if their using him being a cop killer as an excuse not to investigate his murder then they should be severely punished for lack of professionalism.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Dubsta


    Actually dropped the children off according to rte news!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Slunk wrote: »
    In fairness with a killer and drug dealer for a father I don't think he would of had the best chance anyway. Maybe this would make the kids think twice.

    Ah yea no better lesson in life than seeing your dad shot dead in front of you as a child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    Slunk wrote: »
    In fairness with a killer and drug dealer for a father I don't think he would of had the best chance anyway. Maybe this would make the kids think twice.

    Ah yea no better lesson in life than seeing your dad shot dead in front of you as a child.

    And his father dealing in death is a good lesson. At least he might think twice now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,453 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Slunk wrote: »
    In fairness with a killer and drug dealer for a father I don't think he would of had the best chance anyway.
    no excuse at all.
    Slunk wrote: »
    Maybe this would make the kids think twice.

    are you having a laugh, they see their parents being shot and they have other relatives in the gangs who remind them of what was done to them, they will more then lightly seek revenge then not. theirs no excuse for kids to see their parents being shot and those who do excuse it and condone it are as scum as these gangland people. end of

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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