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On Holiday, do you attempt the Language?

  • 27-09-2012 6:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Well do you?

    I will always trying and learn the very basics before I go. Hello, good bye, excuse me, please, and thank you, and in a restaurant or bar will always try and order the food in their own language, ie, from the Spanish/French/Portuguese section of the Menu, rather than from the English translated part.

    I think its only polite, respectful, and have found, in most cases you will get a better response from the person you are dealing with. Even if you do have to continue the rest of the conversation in broken English with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Yep. If that doesn't work I just shout loudly and slowly in English.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Yes.

    I embarrass myself a few times with wrong pronunciations - well probably more than a few - but I give it a go.
    Currently trying to learn Chinese and Japanese.
    French now I had a right bash at last time in France.
    (They probably wanted to bash me for murdering their language!) :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Culleeo


    Yes, when they don't understand me, I end up speaking English with a Spanish/French accent, as if they are going to understand me by putting on the accent :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    ja, ja. das ist gut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,620 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Always have issues in West Cork or Kerry. Even shouting slowly doesn't seem to work :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Yep. If that doesn't work I just shout loudly and slowly in English.

    Think my most memorable was at an Austrian sky resort, saying hello to the cute receptionist, introducing myself, asking how she was, before asking if she spoke English, all in German, before finishing the conversation in English. Resulting in a pat on the back from my uncle for the top shelf flirting as we headed for our rooms, and a smile from her for the rest of the week.

    Unfortunatly it didn't get the same response from the local gift shop owner who looked at me with suspicion the whole time on hearing an English speaker, regardless of where I was actually from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Culleeo wrote: »
    Yes, when they don't understand me, I end up speaking English with a Spanish/French accent, as if they are going to understand me by putting on the accent :o

    Schteve McLaren?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Biggins wrote: »
    Yes.

    I embarrass myself a few times with wrong pronunciations
    - well probably more than a few - but I give it a go.
    Currently trying to learn Chinese and Japanese.
    French now I had a right bash at last time in France.
    (They probably wanted to bash me for murdering their language!) :D

    I think I managed to insult a few people in Portugal by using the Masculine/feminine response at the wrong times. A female friend travelling with us only told me of my mistake on the third day.

    :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    irish-stew wrote: »
    I think I managed to insult a few people in Portugal by using the Masculine/feminine response at the wrong times. A female friend travelling with us only told me of my mistake on the third day.

    :eek:

    Easily done and easily forgiven by many if your a tourist.
    Most appreciate the attempt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sir Pompous Righteousness


    An t-aon teanga a labhraím in ionann Béarla thar sáile ná Ghaeilge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    I used a bit of espanol on the check in girl in a hotel once, just stuff like "Good Morning, your hotel is beautiful, hope you're having a good day etc, etc" - got the best room with the balcony overlooking the pool. Sweeeeet.


    It was either my fabulous grasp of the language or she was a bit lesbo for me. Either way....Balcony!!:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    No.

    I hate when people massacre the English language, so I don't intend on destroying the languages of other nations :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭DeltaWhite


    Yes I do! My OH is always trying to learn aswell :) I find zee Germans aren't very courteous when trying to chat with them in German :/ I recently went abroad to Gran Canaria and the hotel we stayed in had mostly German guests and they weren't very friendly to us even when we said Guten Tag/Nocht :/ but the Canarians are great they love when you show an interest and attempt their language :D


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I always try the basics, some languages are more difficult than others obviously. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't/can't remember 'please' in Dutch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    kyllä


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    I usually put on a Cockney accent and scream "gimme a faaackin' beer you filthy daygo/wop/greasball/kraut/eyetie caaaaaaaant!!!"

    Just doing my bit to enhance the reputation of our British neighbours :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Just after leaving four French fiddlers at a local guesthouse, hadn't a word of English between them.

    The owner was struggling to tell them they were actually staying in another house backing on the guesthouse, so I helped by translating for him.

    'C'homme voudrais habite a votre posterieurs'


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Megan Large Telecommunications


    I certainly do... not in prague though, hadn't a clue...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I always try the basics, some languages are more difficult than others obviously. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't/can't remember 'please' in Dutch!
    Pleash.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    I always try the basics, some languages are more difficult than others obviously. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't/can't remember 'please' in Dutch!

    Als tu blieft


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I am fluent in Rastafarian :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I think it is very important to try to blend in, simple phrases, like, I love you but I love your mum morer (is there a word for this in any language),

    you are a superior race, 24 miles is nothing, the food your people eat is stupendous, can I give you these books/DVD on how to fit in ,

    thank you, by the way, ell ist to mocho mono kemptastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    DeltaWhite wrote: »
    Yes I do! My OH is always trying to learn aswell :) I find zee Germans aren't very courteous when trying to chat with them in German :/ I recently went abroad to Gran Canaria and the hotel we stayed in had mostly German guests and they weren't very friendly to us even when we said Guten Tag/Nocht :/ but the Canarians are great they love when you show an interest and attempt their language :D

    Chirp?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Palytoxin


    "Un baguette, petit pois" is my tourist French.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    I always try the basics, some languages are more difficult than others obviously. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't/can't remember 'please' in Dutch!

    I could teach you some swear words in Dutch:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Yes always

    They appreciate the effort :)

    Even if all you say to the Roman is uno gelato
    The Italians have the best ice-cream!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Sure it will be grand


    Anglophone monoglots like the Irish are notoriously lazy and inept at learning other languages. Big pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The first time that I went to the Czech Republic I had to resort to clucking like a chicken to get a fried egg.:( Things got a lot better after a few more trips and a few language tapes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Always willing to try. The worst I can remember was when we went to Inisheer. Even the kids couldn't understand the guys driving the traps. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Always try and use a bit of the local lingo if I can as long as it doesn't make me look like a tool

    Slightly off topic
    As a teenager down in west cork trying to improve my irish, our dinner used to be brought to us by a really hot girl, every evening she used to hand the plate of grub to me and say "Tá sé te" and every evening for the first week I burnt my fingers until someone explained what it meant

    Still remember her name, even her address (well the road anyway) & it's a long time since I was a teenager :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Really enjoyed speaking a bit of Russian when I went to Moscow. The locals seemed to appreciate it too. Nice language in IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Always. Whenever in Bantry I always say "Hey Horse no fuckin sauce on me burger ok". The locals seem so appreciative, Bless'em


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 jimmi10


    Yes I will try and use some of the language of the place I am visiting. Even if it's just "please" or "thank you". It shows respect to the people who's country you are a guest in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    I try to.

    My Dad, on the other hand, has tried before and now doesn't bother.

    We were on holiday one day in the depths of France about 20 years ago and it was raining really heavily. My Dad saw this elderly French bloke walking with his bike up a hill in the downpour and pulled the car over to say, laughing, “Ou est la soleil?” or similar (“Where is the sun?”). The French guy didn’t understand a word so my Dad pointed at the sky and repeated the question. The French guy looked up to the sky but still was none the wiser, at which point my Dad put the window up and drove off. I imagine the French guy is still there, staring at the sky, scratching his head and wondering wtf my Dad was saying.

    He’s a little more reluctant to use any language now. On a recent trip to Spain, my Dad asked a waiter for a drink to which the Spanish waiter replied with a sentence. My Dad’s response was to wave him away, roll his eyes and say “Yeah, whatever, whatever”.




  • rgmmg wrote: »
    I try to.

    My Dad, on the other hand, has tried before and now doesn't bother.

    We were on holiday one day in the depths of France about 20 years ago and it was raining really heavily. My Dad saw this elderly French bloke walking with his bike up a hill in the downpour and pulled the car over to say, laughing, “Ou est la soleil?” or similar (“Where is the sun?”). The French guy didn’t understand a word so my Dad pointed at the sky and repeated the question. The French guy looked up to the sky but still was none the wiser, at which point my Dad put the window up and drove off. I imagine the French guy is still there, staring at the sky, wondering wtf my Dad was saying.

    He’s a little more reluctant to use any language now. On a recent trip to Spain, my Dad asked a waiter for a drink to which the Spanish waiter replied with a sentence. My Dad’s response was to wave him away, roll his eyes and say “Yeah, whatever, whatever”.

    People actually do that? Perhaps that's why the Spanish waiters here are always rude to English speakers.

    I always try to speak a bit of the language, but if I really can't, I speak English but am apologetic about it and never expect people to speak English. I think realising that not speaking the local language is your issue is the most important thing, wherever you go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    I tried Leitrimese one time, total failure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    oonly wen am in scolan an nee ta fine a bampot ..ye noo ..wen ah nee tae ha a jobbie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Always try to. In France afew years back was having a lot of trouble with an incomprehensible menu and an owner who had no english. She was giving me the usual "idiot tourist" vibe until I plucked up the courage to try some of my old Leaving Cert french on her. I might have told her I was 15 and looking for the train station, but she seemed happy enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    an easy guide to learning French is just watch Del Boy on Only Fools... Class!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭JessePinkman


    Only when i holiday in Ireland :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Unlimited Bacon


    Nah, there's no need. I'm English so i already speak the universal language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Boulevardier


    Don't bother trying to use Turkish words in Istanbul. They really are NOT interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Always.

    I travel quite often to Holland to visit family and for business.
    Each time it usually takes me around a half a day to re-develop the back of the throat "ghhh" you need to enunciate properly.

    My speech goes from tourist to local in the time between breakfast and lunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    in china I learned "Tsingtao píjiǔ" and "xie xie" to order a beer and say thank you. It was all I needed :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    In Vietnam I quickly learned 'Không, cảm ơn'. That was very useful to fend off street sellers. The Vietanamese are polite people. It means 'No thank you'. That was all I really needed. The guide did all the neccessary talking.

    I have a tiny little bit of French. But on our last holiday to France I for some reason kept asking waiters for the 'billet' (ticket) until my wife pointed out I should have said 'l'addicion'. This should have been a clue for me. So for the rest of our holiday I generally murdered the French language in shops and restaurants. While my wife stood by and let me embarrass myself.

    Eventually we were talking and I said I'd love to learn more French and asked her if she had ever thought of studying it. At this point she told me she had, throughout school and studied business French in college and was effectively fluent at one stage. After I picked up my jaw from the floor. I asked her why she had stood by and had me do all the talking. Apparently she was too 'embarrassed' to try it as it had been a while since she spoke it. Ok for me to be embarrassed apparently.:mad:

    Next time she does all the talking let me tell you.

    I remember in Montreal using my French occasionally. They all spoke English too but at least attempting to use their language always seemed to please them. Which helps with service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Yes I talk to the French like Del Boy.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Only when i holiday in Ireland :D

    Pity, I reckon Ja, Bitch! would go down a treat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Dónde están las prostitutas?

    That's all you need to learn in Spain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Dónde están las prostitutas?

    That's all you need to learn in Spain.

    or "como me los huevos"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I try to speak the few words I know, but I always end up using the wrong language.

    eg In a cafe in France.

    "Uno cerveza por favor"... ****

    "Danke"... ****


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