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Expressions you don't get

  • 27-09-2012 12:19am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭


    So today was in work and asked truck driver what's best way to go to fishin spot on the Shannon
    He said take the Galway road( Liffey valley exit) and go straight and take athlone road then
    I said there any turns and he said nope ' straight as the crow flies'
    I dont get it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    When we travel, we take roads and other types of paths which have to fit around natural and artificial obstacles.

    If a crow were travelling from the same point to the same destination, however, it would avoid those obstacles entirely and it would probably fly there directly in a fairly straight line.

    So the expression simply means there are no turns or sizeable curves on the route. It's pretty straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    When we travel, we take roads and other types of paths which have to fit around natural and artificial obstacles.

    If a crow were travelling from the same point to the same destination, however, it would avoid those obstacles entirely and it would probably fly there directly in a fairly straight line.

    So the expression simply means there are no turns or sizeable curves on the route. It's pretty straight.
    But why a crow
    Why not sparrow or hawk or pink dragon
    But I see what ya mean
    What bout this one
    If someone is suspicious your up to somethin and ya mate says here that chap is dog wide to u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    These expressions make no sense half the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    When we travel, we take roads and other types of paths which have to fit around natural and artificial obstacles.

    If a crow were travelling from the same point to the same destination, however, it would avoid those obstacles entirely and it would probably fly there directly in a fairly straight line.

    So the expression simply means there are no turns or sizeable curves on the route. It's pretty straight.

    I have to admit, that might have been the best response I've read on Boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sir Pompous Righteousness


    I never got "fuck me pink".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    But why a crow
    Why not sparrow or hawk or pink dragon
    But I see what ya mean
    What bout this one
    If someone is suspicious your up to somethin and ya mate says here that chap is dog wide to u

    I think a crow is used simply because it's such a common bird in Britain. I can't help you with the origin of the other two phrases (no help on Google and I've never even heard of "to be dog wide to..."). The difficulty with English idioms is that their origins can become obscured, their origins are complex, often based on specific situations, words from other languages, or bizarre amalgamations of various factors, or else phrases which originally made sense see their form shift gradually until they're phrases with little relation to their original forms.
    I have to admit, that might have been the best response I've read on Boards.

    It's my day job, nothing special :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    I never got "fuck me pink".

    Fannies are pink on the inside. Go figure. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    This trend for using the word optics with regard to politics/public opinion.

    Makes me sick. Optics are things you shine light through or pour drinks thru. that's it. Full stop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Well if its out of sight its out of mind, so how exactly then does absence make the heart grow fonder?


  • Site Banned Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Wee Willy Harris


    the highbrow one. with the darting eyes, like I don't even know


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    Going forward is one of Mehole "you can't smoke there" Martins favourites, I get why he is saying it, the past is irrelevant, let me criticise what's happening now, ignore the fact my party ruined the country forever, pretend I wasn't a senior minister for the decade leading up to the the sh1tstorm, going forward let's forget about everything going forward.

    We're all going forward, we haven't got a time machine, going forward we might invent one but currently we don't have one so at least going forward for the time being we will only ever be going forward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    :rolleyes:
    ^ that one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus



    "All is fair in love and war"


    We all know the expression.
    By definition it means "When it comes down to it, all is fair" ... But lets look at some examples. What if I:


    • Screw a friend out of money.
    • Sleep with my so called "friend's" partner.
    • Use or manipulate a person.
    • Collect the social while working / or abuse the system.
    • Not pay tax.
    • Steal
    • etc
    I've heard so many people say "all is fair in love and war" when rationalising their actions. But never when its someone elses actions!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    "I could'nt give a Fiddlers" Exactly what possession or particular part of a Fiddler's anatomy are we speaking of?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Was chatting to a group of girls in the pub and they invited me back to their house party

    In like Flynn :cool:

    I like the saying but no idea how it ever started.
    Just bizarre :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Huh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Huh?

    Me too., Huh?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Was chatting to a group of girls in the pub and they invited me back to their house party

    In like Flynn :cool:

    I like the saying but no idea how it ever started.
    Just bizarre :confused:

    I heard (haven't confirmed with Google though) it's a reference to Errol Flynn and his lothario ways. Any young female co-star he'd come across, he'd put the moves on and "be in there" in a shot. And was generally successful, apart from with, famously, Olivia de Havilland.

    So if you jump into something eagerly, you're "in like Flynn."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    'He has a chip on his shoulder' what the hell does that even mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    The whole 'I could care less' thing when they really mean 'I couldn't care less'....drives me insane when people use the former.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Stepping up to the plate, pushing the envelope, etc etc.
    A lot of Americanisms came in that people pretend they know the meaning of.

    That one in Newstalk in the mornings still uses that Celtic Tiger era 'going forward' expression which drives me berserk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    I haven't a Bulls Notion what ye are on about..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Sarcastic much?
    Criticise much?
    Americanisms much?

    Annoying much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    "You can't have your cake and eat it". What fúcking good is having a cake if I can't eat it? What else should I do with it, cut holes in it and wear it like shoes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Stepping up to the plate, pushing the envelope, etc etc.
    A lot of Americanisms came in that people pretend they know the meaning of.

    That one in Newstalk in the mornings still uses that Celtic Tiger era 'going forward' expression which drives me berserk.

    +1.

    Especially when they mix up sporting metaphors:

    "It's third and long [football] and all the bases are covered [baseball]..."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    The worst one I heard was someone referring to 'the white elephant in the room!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    Sarcastic much?
    Criticise much?
    Americanisms much?

    Annoying much?
    Have a lot to bother you much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    Bassfish wrote: »
    'He has a chip on his shoulder' what the hell does that even mean?

    Back in the day the sailors were allowed two blocks of wood from the ship for use in their own fires.

    Eventuallyit was reduces to one chip which they carried down the gangplank on one shoulder. They weren't happy about only being allowed one chip, that's where the phrase comes from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭maryb26


    "like the cuates egg, good in parts" Not a clue what that means.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    'Smoke & Daggers'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    "Play it be ear"

    I used to always think it was "Play it by year"..............which, in my mind, makes more sense considering the phrase is about how things will go when a situation develops or as time goes on.

    I dunno, feels like I've been living a lie all these years....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    have your cake and eat it too... what's the ****ing point in having a cake if you're not going to eat it

    are there people who buy cakes just to keep them in the fridge for a few weeks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent



    "All is fair in love and war"


    We all know the expression.
    By definition it means "When it comes down to it, all is fair" ... But lets look at some examples. What if I:


    • Screw a friend out of money.
    • Sleep with my so called "friend's" partner.
    • Use or manipulate a person.
    • Collect the social while working / or abuse the system.
    • Not pay tax.
    • Steal
    • etc
    I've heard so many people say "all is fair in love and war" when rationalising their actions. But never when its someone elses actions!

    Uh, if it's not love it's war. Simple.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "Leave eh bleedin ouuuuu"
    Like "the cat is bleeding, put him outside"....?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    have your cake and eat it too... what's the ****ing point in having a cake if you're not going to eat it

    are there people who buy cakes just to keep them in the fridge for a few weeks?

    If you have your cake (ie, keep it in the fridge) then you cannot also eat the cake, because then the cake will be gone.

    You cannot do both things with the cake. You can either eat it, or keep it in the fridge (to eat later) but you cant do both together.

    **** me pink - when people have sex they develop an inverted triangular sexual flush on the body. On white people, its pink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    If someone is suspicious your up to somethin and ya mate says here that chap is dog wide to u

    Ive never heard of dog wide, but a common Dublin expression is 'bang wide' - Ive no idea where it came from.

    Is it something to do with an animal approaching and keeping a wide berth because they are nervous and are looking at things from all angles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    "The worm has turned"

    Where was the worm going, why did he turn around and who was watching it and thought the action so profound that they decided to turn it into a expression?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    'think outside the box' and other bollox spouted by HR types


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    *as the man say's* ...WHICH man?

    *giving it socks*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    "Die dog or sh*te a license!"

    Never got this one. Might never have been uttered outside my particular corner of Offaly though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    "Play it be ear"

    I used to always think it was "Play it by year"..............which, in my mind, makes more sense considering the phrase is about how things will go when a situation develops or as time goes on.

    I dunno, feels like I've been living a lie all these years....

    It's a musical term. Really good musicians can replay a bit of music without the written notes and by just listening to the piece.
    So the term "play it by ear" came to mean doing somethin on the fly or without any pre-planning or preparation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    'Smoke & Daggers'

    I think you're mixing your metaphors - the expressions you're referring to are "smoke and mirrors" and "cloak and dagger".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    byronbay2 wrote: »
    I think you're mixing your metaphors - the expressions you're referring to are "smoke and mirrors" and "cloak and dagger".

    It's a Bertie-ism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    maryb26 wrote: »
    "like the cuates egg, good in parts" Not a clue what that means.

    There's suppossedly a story about this that a curate was invited to dinner by the local priest and the meal served consisted of a boiled egg. The curate ate the egg (which was supposedly rotten). When asked by the priest how it tasted, the curate, eager not to offend or insult the senior priest, replied that parts of the egg were very good. Hence the expression "a curates egg" which means that overall something is terrible or lacking but certain parts of it are good or have merit - usually used when talking about movies, books, plays, albums or other such bodies of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    "Zip up your mickey". Ah good old Twink *


    * By good I mean mad auld bítch and by old I mean when Moses parted the red sea, she was on the other side washing clothes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Greyjoy


    Back in the day the sailors were allowed two blocks of wood from the ship for use in their own fires.

    Eventuallyit was reduces to one chip which they carried down the gangplank on one shoulder. They weren't happy about only being allowed one chip, that's where the phrase comes from.

    Not quite, the phrase originated from the shipbuilders who were permitted to carry out wood from the shipyard balanced on their shoulders. The rules were changed so that they had to carry the wood under their arms instead of on the shoulder. That change made the wood harder to carry so this meant the builders could only take a much smaller block.

    Some of the shipwrights persisted in carrying the wood out on their shoulders so someone with a "chip on their shoulder" came to mean a person who felt persecuted or had a grievance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭fincollins


    Jesus wept


    :confused:


    What the hell does that mean????? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    When we travel, we take roads and other types of paths which have to fit around natural and artificial obstacles.

    If a crow were travelling from the same point to the same destination, however, it would avoid those obstacles entirely and it would probably fly there directly in a fairly straight line.

    So the expression simply means there are no turns or sizeable curves on the route. It's pretty straight.
    'As the crow flies' is generally taken to mean 'cross country'*, not paying any attention to roads at all so, imo, the op is kind of right to be confused because it would seem that the lorry driver is advising that they start climbing over ditches and stuff.

    *"It's a 5 mile trip to work by road, but only 3 as the crow flies".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    maryb26 wrote: »
    "like the cuates egg, good in parts" Not a clue what that means.

    From a cartoon published in Punch magazine:
    "Bishop: "I'm afraid you've got a bad egg, Mr Jones";
    Curate: "Oh, no, my Lord, I assure you that parts of it are excellent!"


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