Rip-off petrol stations

corktina

Our local petrol station is still at 169.9 despite the recent decreases.

Our local independent which sells a tiny fraction of what the other guy sells and doesn't have a Centra supermarket to bring in the punters is at 165.9.

makes me spit.

-Corkie-

corktina wrote: »

Our local petrol station is still at 169.9 despite the recent decreases.

Our local independent which sells a tiny fraction of what the other guy sells and doesn't have a Centra supermarket to bring in the punters is at 165.9.

makes me spit.

Someone must pay for that nice Brabus he drives..;)

vectrahed

Dont buy your petrol in Dublin so

corktina

OSI wrote: »

Tis a free market. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. Simples.

I don't .Simples. But It would be handier for me if I did

corktina

-Corkie- wrote: »

Someone must pay for that nice Brabus he drives..;)

Not me if I can help it. I wonder how many other people got to the 165.9 guy (on the N72) in preference to the dear guys? I think they must do, as I notice that the Racecourse Service Station don't charge top prices anymore since this one opened.

Yawns

No petrol station in my area dropped below 169 with some still charging 170.9.

corktina

Blatant isn't it! My Independanr has a rudimentary shop but is dependent on petrol slaes for his living. An outlet with a big shop should be in a much better position to drop there prices, blatant profiteering.

dulpit

Just checked pumps.ie and the 2 stations on the Model Farm Road are down to 162.9, and I'll be in that area tonight and need petrol - result.

Must check what the station next to me is (it's called "Discount Fuels", but it's been a while since they've been cheap)

As much as possible I aim to go to the cheaper stations, as a matter of principle.

Yawns

Indeed. It's been that way around here for ages. All the big stations have the exact same price. There's a smaller brand that tries to undercut by a cent or 2 and then there's an independent who tries to match or beat the smaller brand by a cent. The big branded stations are always the same and were 170.9 yesterday. The smaller one was 169.9 and the indy was 168.9.

The big branded ones always shoot up together regardless and it's not just down to the mind noticing increases more than decreases. It's not uncommon for 1 of the big stations to change prices 3 times a day most days. He's certainly not emptying his tanks and having them refilled 10 times a week.

corktina

dulpit wrote: »

Just checked pumps.ie and the 2 stations on the Model Farm Road are down to 162.9, and I'll be in that area tonight and need petrol - result.

Must check what the station next to me is (it's called "Discount Fuels", but it's been a while since they've been cheap)

As much as possible I aim to go to the cheaper stations, as a matter of principle.

the one on the North Ring is consistently cheap I find. The one on the South Link too

Jarren

Maxol in Crumlin is not bad price wise

166.9c - petrol

http://www.pumps.ie/

dar83

Not seen one on my daily drive (North East Dub) that has dipped below 170.9 yet... 165.9 is never gonna happen here again I would think. 162.9 would be dream land! haha.

Chris_Heilong

My Local is still 172.1 and the one down the road is 170.9(Howth road), I have to start looking for somewhere cheaper than these.

Bandara

dulpit wrote: »

Just checked pumps.ie and the 2 stations on the Model Farm Road are down to 162.9, and I'll be in that area tonight and need petrol - result.

Must check what the station next to me is (it's called "Discount Fuels", but it's been a while since they've been cheap)

As much as possible I aim to go to the cheaper stations, as a matter of principle.

Good luck with that !

dar83

dar83 wrote: »

Not seen one on my daily drive (North East Dub) that has dipped below 170.9 yet... 165.9 is never gonna happen here again I would think. 162.9 would be dream land! haha.

Get a fuel card, price on my Topaz card has been 164.23 since Saturday and now that some stations are getting close to this I expect another drop this Saturday morning.

Hammertime wrote: »

Good luck with that !

The diesel I wouldn't trust but I don't see what would be wrong with the petrol.

Yakuza

The Esso on Richmond Road is 167.9, the one on the Clontarf road is 171.9, almost €2.50 less to fill my tank (though I'd never usually leave it that low)

Ayan High Musketeer wrote: »

The diesel I wouldn't trust but I don't see what would be wrong with the petrol.

Petrol can be diluted (which is bad for your engine) so I wouldn't be buying any fuel from some pop-up / cash only fuel station.

Yakuza

Yakuza wrote: »

Petrol can be diluted (which is bad for your engine) so I wouldn't be buying any fuel from some pop-up / cash only fuel station.

Well it could but its not a practice I've ever heard off, certainly on a scale anything like washing diesel.

Also 162.9 isn't crazy cheap, as I said its been just over 164 all week on my fuel card.

dulpit

BTW: By cheapest around, I mean the cheapest reputable retailer. There's a great gas nearby, and this discount fuels (they're actually applegreens) and I find that I just don't get the same milage out of their petrol than I would from Texaco/Topaz/etc.

Might be paranoid on that one..

Ardennes1944

Topaz in togher is 167.9 which is cheaper than anywhere else I've passed

coolisin

I do find the applegreen the cheapest alright in my local.

I have wondered about the car not getting the extra few miles before the light comes on when i fill up there! Thought it was me just paranoid

Yakuza

Ayan High Musketeer wrote: »

Well it could but its not a practice I've ever heard off, certainly on a scale anything like washing diesel.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78132642&postcount=30

-Corkie-

corktina wrote: »

Not me if I can help it. I wonder how many other people got to the 165.9 guy (on the N72) in preference to the dear guys? I think they must do, as I notice that the Racecourse Service Station don't charge top prices anymore since this one opened.

I seen that but I wouldnt be keen on buying diesel of them.

For Forks Sake

dar83 wrote: »

Not seen one on my daily drive (North East Dub) that has dipped below 170.9 yet... 165.9 is never gonna happen here again I would think. 162.9 would be dream land! haha.

Couple of indys around Birr Co.Offaly at 162 and 163 yesterday. 153/154 for daysul.

MrDerp

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

My Local is still 172.1 and the one down the road is 170.9(Howth road), I have to start looking for somewhere cheaper than these.

I live in the general area and there's something fishy there. The stations on the Howth Road are consistently among the most expensive in the country. That whole are of Dublin is expensive.

ofcork

-Corkie- wrote: »

Someone must pay for that nice Brabus he drives..;)

Any photos of that brabus?

GhostInTheRuins

dulpit wrote: »

BTW: By cheapest around, I mean the cheapest reputable retailer. There's a great gas nearby, and this discount fuels (they're actually applegreens) and I find that I just don't get the same milage out of their petrol than I would from Texaco/Topaz/etc.

Might be paranoid on that one..

Nah, it's not just you. The closest garage to me (and always the cheapest by 1c) is applegreen, and I won't buy petrol from them anymore because I always feel I get worse mileage from a tank.

Dr Turk Turkelton

dulpit wrote: »

Just checked pumps.ie and the 2 stations on the Model Farm Road are down to 162.9, and I'll be in that area tonight and need petrol - result.

Must check what the station next to me is (it's called "Discount Fuels", but it's been a while since they've been cheap)

As much as possible I aim to go to the cheaper stations, as a matter of principle.

Wonder how long before we see dulpit in the motors thread asking about injectors!

Also on the Applegreen/less mileage I found that myself also thought I was paranoid!

-Corkie-

ofcork wrote: »

Any photos of that brabus?

Ask Corktina he lives next door....

Damien360

I am beginning to think the tax take is way too high. We were always told europe does the same. I filled up rental car in Belgium today at 144.9 for diesel.

Colonel Sanders

Topaz off the Finglas M50 exit is still 1.719 for petrol

Never fill up there, I use Maxol on constitution hill

upandcumming

corktina wrote: »

makes me spit.

You should get that looked at.

dulpit

So got petrol in the Texaco on Model Farm Road (Cork) at €1.629, Lee Garage was the same price, but the guy there is weird and it's no name fuel (no idea who it is).

Can't imagine there'd be an issue with Texaco, would there?

Celly Smunt

2 Topaz down the road from me are 171.9,hence why i never go there on principle.For the sake of 3 cent or so, these stations lose hundreds if not thousands in custom.Support your little local.

FacebookLAD

corktina wrote: »

Our local petrol station is still at 169.9 despite the recent decreases.

Our local independent which sells a tiny fraction of what the other guy sells and doesn't have a Centra supermarket to bring in the punters is at 165.9.

makes me spit.

Kanturk can be a pain for petrol!

Hal Decks

corktina wrote: »

Our local petrol station is still at 169.9 despite the recent decreases.

Our local independent which sells a tiny fraction of what the other guy sells and doesn't have a Centra supermarket to bring in the punters is at 165.9.

makes me spit.

Ok. Now please answer the following?

1. What should the retailer do with fuel he has bought at last week's prices?

2. Are you aware that a retailer is free to charge what he likes?

3. What, in your opinion, is an acceptable margin for a fuel retailer to add to the cost if his fuel?

Leonard Hofstadter

In Galway not one station seems to have decreased their prices.

Bar one. The Topaz on College Road has decreased theirs. By one lousy cent a litre to 169.9 for petrol and 159.9 for diesel.

There seems to be no competition of any description in Galway - all the stations are within one to two cent of each other, only the Topaz on the Barna road is anything close to respectable price wise relative to the rest of the country.

corktina

Hal Decks wrote: »

Ok. Now please answer the following?

1. What should the retailer do with fuel he has bought at last week's prices?

2. Are you aware that a retailer is free to charge what he likes?

3. What, in your opinion, is an acceptable margin for a fuel retailer to add to the cost if his fuel?

1.my point being that an independant who probably did buy fuel at last weeks prices reduced price very speedily whereas a large outlet with sales of ten or twenty times more who almost certainly bought at THIS weeks prices hasn't reduced at all.
2 yep, don't make it not a rip off though
3 well, i would guess that the more fuel you buy the cheaper you get it, so I would assume a large outlet should be able to sell cheaper than a very small one, even if they use they the same margin.

Hal Decks

corktina wrote: »

Hal Decks wrote: »

Ok. Now please answer the following?

1. What should the retailer do with fuel he has bought at last week's prices?

2. Are you aware that a retailer is free to charge what he likes?

3. What, in your opinion, is an acceptable margin for a fuel retailer to add to the cost if his fuel?

1.my point being that an independant who probably did buy fuel at last weeks prices reduced price very speedily whereas a large outlet with sales of ten or twenty times more who almost certainly bought at THIS weeks prices hasn't reduced at all.
2 yep, don't make it not a rip off though
3 well, i would guess that the more fuel you buy the cheaper you get it, so I would assume a large outlet should be able to sell cheaper than a very small one, even if they use they the same margin.

I was specific in my question 3. Can you answer, please?

What margin would you deem acceptable for a fuel retailer to work with?

corktina

If all outlets are using the same margin then a large outlet should be cheaper to the customer than a very small one ( and we are talking about 4c per litre difference here).(A large outlet with a busy shop shoiuld be able to exist on a smaller margin too.

Hal Decks

corktina wrote: »

If all outlets are using the same margin then a large outlet should be cheaper to the customer than a very small one ( and we are talking about 4c per litre difference here).(A large outlet with a busy shop shoiuld be able to exist on a smaller margin too.

You are still avoiding the question.

What margin do you deem acceptable?

It BeeMee

I've seen no reductions anywhere yet.

In fact, in one station the diesel went up to 162.9

2 Hell and Back

Live near Bray/Greystones... Drive past Topaz and Esso most days.. the topaz is always more expensive...

And having done countless brim tests...In the ESSO i always put in fewer litres of petrol per tank than in the topaz!

Maybe its something to do with the nozzle; or maybe topaz are rippin us off! Telling us we are buying more petrol than we really are!!

Bandara

corktina wrote: »

Hal Decks wrote: »

Ok. Now please answer the following?

1. What should the retailer do with fuel he has bought at last week's prices?

2. Are you aware that a retailer is free to charge what he likes?

3. What, in your opinion, is an acceptable margin for a fuel retailer to add to the cost if his fuel?

1.my point being that an independant who probably did buy fuel at last weeks prices reduced price very speedily whereas a large outlet with sales of ten or twenty times more who almost certainly bought at THIS weeks prices hasn't reduced at all.
2 yep, don't make it not a rip off though
3 well, i would guess that the more fuel you buy the cheaper you get it, so I would assume a large outlet should be able to sell cheaper than a very small one, even if they use they the same margin.

Lol

Just lol

Mycroft H

2 Hell and Back wrote: »

Live near Bray/Greystones... Drive past Topaz and Esso most days.. the topaz is always more expensive...

And having done countless brim tests...In the ESSO i always put in fewer litres of petrol per tank than in the topaz!

Maybe its something to do with the nozzle; or maybe topaz are rippin us off! Telling us we are buying more petrol than we really are!!

Go report them to the legal metrology service.

Bandara

corktina wrote: »

If all outlets are using the same margin then a large outlet should be cheaper to the customer than a very small one ( and we are talking about 4c per litre difference here).(A large outlet with a busy shop shoiuld be able to exist on a smaller margin too.

Basically completely wrong from start to finish

psycho-hope

2 Hell and Back wrote: »

Live near Bray/Greystones... Drive past Topaz and Esso most days.. the topaz is always more expensive...

And having done countless brim tests...In the ESSO i always put in fewer litres of petrol per tank than in the topaz!

Maybe its something to do with the nozzle; or maybe topaz are rippin us off! Telling us we are buying more petrol than we really are!!

the cheapest petrol around greystonrs is usually either the garage in newcastle or the tougher one up in.newtown always at least 2cent cheaper a litre

2 Hell and Back

BX 19 wrote: »

Go report them to the legal metrology service.

Done

corktina

Hammertime wrote: »

Basically completely wrong from start to finish

a worthless post from start to finish.
Care to explain how it is not the case that the more of something you buy , the cheaper you get it?

pippip

corktina wrote: »

a worthless post from start to finish.
Care to explain how it is not the case that the more of something you buy , the cheaper you get it?

Yes generally the more you buy of something the cheaper per unit you get it.

But those who generally do buy more of something generally have much bigger overheads.

In your original case I'd reckon the inde has cheaper, or possibly, no rent to pay. Also less staff to pay. Thus can afford to knock off a few cents if they choose to.

corktina

i don't see it. The margin is very small anyway so Im told, the guy has almost no sale except the petrol and the bigger guy has an entire supermarlet to help offset the overheads

Hal Decks

corktina wrote: »

i don't see it. The margin is very small anyway so Im told, the guy has almost no sale except the petrol and the bigger guy has an entire supermarlet to help offset the overheads

Yet, still, you have not answered the question

What margin do you deem acceptable for a fuel retailer?

(As to why any business should subsidise fuel sales from convenience store sales is beyond me. )