What mudguard.

robertxxx

Hi all, I'm looking for a slim set for my giant rapid hybrid. 25mm tyres.

Was looking for clip on's but this rain doesn't look like it's going anytime soon so maybe the bolt on type if they are that much better.

Cheers

Ryder

Raceblades are effective and clip on, but really only last me a season. It rains so often that I leave them on my commuter permanently and if doing things again would prob get proper screw on mudgaurds

sherlok

SKS chromoplastic guards are pretty fantastic. I've been using them for a couple of years on my commuter with 25mm tyres. They're endured a lot....

I haven't used crud guards myself but i know a few people who really rate them

http://www.crudproducts.com/products/roadracer/roadracer_

lennymc

im using the crud roadracers 2 and they are fine. light, keep the rain off, but they do rub on the wheels sometimes.

morana

if its only for commuting I would get a bolt on set and leave them. Why bother taken them on and off?

Surveyor11

http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40885

Will be picking up a set of these bad boys at the weekend - have enough of wet feet commuting

dermo1990

Just a quick question. Would these be suitable for 700x25c tyres?
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=2000;backlink=9|2||1000,5,160||0|0|1||

Hmmzis

+1 on the chromoplastics, the missus commuter has them on permanently her shoes have been kept dry in this rain. Can't say the same about mine.

MB Lacey

Do you think there's much of a difference between the sks chromoplastics and the sks commuter mudguards.

I have a bike on hold with a lbs, I rang them a few days ago asking them to fit the sks chromoplastics for when I collect my bike, but they said they only had sks commuters or sks raceblades.

I opted for the commuters cos they're cheaper and dont really see much of a difference, but maybe I'm missing something.

Lumen

MB Lacey wrote: »

Do you think there's much of a difference between the sks chromoplastics and the sks commuter mudguards.

The Commuter are shorter but have flaps to compensate, and have a different design of stay with only one bracing point on the mudguard. I'd probably stick with the Chromoplastic.

Surveyor11

Sorry guys, which ones are the chromoplastic ones? I realised that these http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40885 are only suitable from 28mm to 35mm, have a mix of 23mm and 25mm on the bike at the mo - wouild this pose a big problem? I'm thinking the clearance under the fronk fork may be an issue.

Ryath

Any opinions on benefit of the SKS with the mudflap over with out?

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/sks-sks-mudguards-road-sks-narrow-guards-p35-with-mudflap-pair/sksamudr225

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/sks-sks-mudguards-road-sks-mudguards-narrow-b35-pair/sksamudr200

Apparently not called chromoplastics anymore. Going to get them for a Giant SCR to commute on and winter trainer on very wet days.

Used Crud road racers on my good bike last year work very well but are a bit fiddly and they rub a lot. Got much better at adjusting them after a while so they didn't rub but wheel rims were badly marked by the end of the winter. Also some paint taken was of on the back of the seat tube. Don't really fancy putting them back on this winter so I may get a set of SKS raceblades as well for this bike as they should be much easier to take on and of. No where near as much coverage but will do if I'm caught in a shower. If I didn't have the giant I would definitely use the Crud road racers though

Ryath

Surveyor11 wrote: »

Sorry guys, which ones are the chromoplastic ones? I realised that these http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40885 are only suitable from 28mm to 35mm, have a mix of 23mm and 25mm on the bike at the mo - wouild this pose a big problem? I'm thinking the clearance under the fronk fork may be an issue.

See previous post for which SKS you want for 20mm to 28mm tyres.
Whether they fit depend on the bike and the clearance you have. A lot of road bikes don't have the clearance for full mudguards. These should fit nearly all road bikes

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=54934

If you don't have room for even these or put of by the fiddlyness of the cruds your best option are probably
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/sks-sks-mudguards-road-sks-race-blade-mudguards-pair-700x18-23/sksamudr250

MB Lacey

Surveyor11 wrote: »

Sorry guys, which ones are the chromoplastic ones?

The top ones in the post Lumen posted are the sks chromoplatics, the ones below are the sks commuters.

cdaly_

Ryath wrote: »

Apparently not called chromoplastics anymore. Going to get them for a Giant SCR to commute on and winter trainer on very wet days.

Clearance can be pretty tight on the SCR. You might have to consider the SCR-specific guards instead.

Used Crud road racers on my good bike last year work very well but are a bit fiddly and they rub a lot. Got much better at adjusting them after a while so they didn't rub but wheel rims were badly marked by the end of the winter. Also some paint taken was of on the back of the seat tube. Don't really fancy putting them back on this winter so I may get a set of SKS raceblades as well for this bike as they should be much easier to take on and of. No where near as much coverage but will do if I'm caught in a shower. If I didn't have the giant I would definitely use the Crud road racers though

I replaced a set of raceblades with the Crud IIs recently. The blades seemed to need regular adjusting and were rubbing my seat stays/forks. They also don't protect calipers / front mech from the dirt.

OTOH, as mentioned, the Cruds are a bit fiddly to set up but they do protect the mechs.

Surveyor11

OK, mine for an SCR Giant as well ,so worth noting. Handiest thing might be to bring it to the LBS and try a few different options. Looking for as much coverage as possible, maybe the commuters will fit. Looking for a permanent solution.

Paul Kiernan

If your bike has mudguard eyelets (on the fork and dropouts) and clearance (e.g. the Giant Rapid) then you should fit proper mudguards like the Chromoplastics, Bluemels or Commuters. The Raceblades and Cruds are for road bikes which are specifically designed NOT to take mudguards!

donal2000

Surveyor11 wrote: »

http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40885

Will be picking up a set of these bad boys at the weekend - have enough of wet feet commuting

I wouldnt go near these mudguards. Had them on my hybrid commuter and they only lasted a couple of months. They literally fall apart.

Lumen

donal2000 wrote: »

I wouldnt go near these mudguards. Had them on my hybrid commuter and they only lasted a couple of months. They literally fall apart.

According the the internet the Chromoplastic are made of a superior (stronger, stiffer) grade of plastic than the Bluemel.

robertxxx

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

If your bike has mudguard eyelets (on the fork and dropouts) and clearance (e.g. the Giant Rapid) then you should fit proper mudguards like the Chromoplastics, Bluemels or Commuters. The Raceblades and Cruds are for road bikes which are specifically designed NOT to take mudguards!

Gick!!!..... I just placed an order online for the cruds at lunch time today.
What to do now.

Paul Kiernan

robertxxx wrote: »

Gick!!!..... I just placed an order online for the cruds at lunch time today.
What to do now.

No choice really - you'll just have to buy a new road bike to put them on:pac:.

doozerie

dermo1990 wrote: »

Just a quick question. Would these be suitable for 700x25c tyres?
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=2000;backlink=9|2||1000,5,160||0|0|1||

I believe the answer is yes. I looked at a pair in the flesh recently and they seemed plenty wide enough to cover 25mm tyres (I was considering them for the same purpose), and then some, and I found some discussions online where people said they use them for 25mm tyres themselves without problems.

doozerie

Ryath wrote: »

Any opinions on benefit of the SKS with the mudflap over with out?

Not sure if it helps, but I have the chromoplastic versions (one pair on road bike, one pair on MTB) with mudflap and I'd be reluctant to go for the non-mudflap version if I was replacing them. It has been so long since I've had SKS mudguards without a mudflap that I can't remember if they were really any less effective but my perception, based on faint memory, is that the mudflap has helped.

One other benefit of opting for the mudflap version though is that the rear mudguard comes with a reflector, which is handy. Or at least my ones came with a rear reflector, so I assume that is always the case. I found it tricky to find a reasonably priced source though that definitely sold the versions with mudflap and reflector, the pictures on some sites suggested that they sold them without. I bought one pair of mine from Ribble, the other pair from cyclesportsuk.co.uk.

Smokeyskelton

Might be a bit late if you ordered a pair, but did you see this review of close clearance mudguards? www.cyclingactive.com/bikesgear/7-of-the-best-close-clearance-mudguards

doozerie

Re Crud RoadRacers, I have them on one bike and have been very happy with them. It's my "winter" bike so they stay on the bike permanently - that bike can't take regular mudguards. My only issue with them is that they struggle with 25mm tyres due to the limited clearance mainly at the seat tube on my bike. I haven't used 25mm tyres on that bike on the road but my turbo trainer wheel has a tyre which is about the same as a 25mm tyre and I have to jam a rubber wedge between the lower part of the rear mudguard and seat tube to stop the mudguard rubbing on the tyre (a rear mudguard is, like, vital when on the turbo trainer, obviously...).

I plan on putting 25mm tyres on that bike but I've delayed that for ages now because the permanent fix to the rear mudguard might well involve a heat gun and lots of patience.

One "interesting" thing with the RoadRacers is that road crud can accumulate between the tyre and mudguard at the brake bridge. I've found that it usually clears out during the ride as water on the tyre tends to wash it out, but the odd time after a ride I've found the wheel wouldn't rotate freely because of the friction. It has never been a problem, but I've been told by one person that friction from such crud wore away their RoadRacers at the brake bridge over time and their (rear) mudguard broke into two parts mid-ride. Mind you, personally I'd still take the extra protection of RoadRacers over the SKS RaceBlades, at least partly 'cos it reduces the need to give time to cleaning the bike

enas

Also, if one buys the Chromoplastics without mudflaps (which do help immensely at preventing wet feet), you can always buy them separately (here for example http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=85730).

Ryath

cdaly_ wrote: »

Clearance can be pretty tight on the SCR. You might have to consider the SCR-specific guards instead.

From checking online don't think clearance is an issue
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14995104

Petethedrummer has put 32mm tyres on his
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80454935&postcount=26

Surveyor11 wrote: »

OK, mine for an SCR Giant as well ,so worth noting. Handiest thing might be to bring it to the LBS and try a few different options. Looking for as much coverage as possible, maybe the commuters will fit. Looking for a permanent solution.

From everything I've read the chromoplatics fit and are worth paying the bit extra for.Should be fit and forget and are nearly unbreakable

doozerie wrote: »

Not sure if it helps, but I have the chromoplastic versions (one pair on road bike, one pair on MTB) with mudflap and I'd be reluctant to go for the non-mudflap version if I was replacing them. It has been so long since I've had SKS mudguards without a mudflap that I can't remember if they were really any less effective but my perception, based on faint memory, is that the mudflap has helped.

One other benefit of opting for the mudflap version though is that the rear mudguard comes with a reflector, which is handy. Or at least my ones came with a rear reflector, so I assume that is always the case. I found it tricky to find a reasonably priced source though that definitely sold the versions with mudflap and reflector, the pictures on some sites suggested that they sold them without. I bought one pair of mine from Ribble, the other pair from cyclesportsuk.co.uk.

Thinking the same thing myself about the reflector and if I don't like the mudflap I can always take it off. Must say the ones without the mudflap and reflector are great value at €22 on ribble but for the sake of an extra tenner I think I'll go for them.

doozerie

@Ryath, Ribble are great for some prices but their delivery charge is a bit steep (a little over 12euro for one order from them in July which included mudguards). By comparison, I paid UK£5 delivery last year when I bought mudguards from CycleSportsUK, though their chromoplastic mudguards are UK£30 at the moment which makes them more expensive than Ribble (assuming you are spending more than £35 on your Ribble order to qualify for their discount). The latter have a better range of the mudguards though, including the 26" ones that I needed for my MTB at the time and which I don't believe Ribble stock.

...a quick search threw back the following "seconds" for UK£20 (plus delivery), 26" version and possibly without rear reflector if the website picture is anything to go by, from SJS Cycles.

robertxxx

First day using the cruds and they were fine never noticed them all but once when the road surface was totally in bits.
Very light and very quiet.

Qualitymark

Best I've seen was a vertically halved 7Up bottle screwed to the frame as a mudguard. In Amsterdam.

Surveyor11

Used my Race Blades for the first time in anger last night - p!ssing rain on the commute home. Feet were kept largely dry under Endura Overshoes that up to now failed miserably to keep me dry with the spray from the unprotected front wheel. Over all very happy camper. So happy in fact, I am seriously contemplating doing Dublin - Galway with my winter bike Friday week!

pprendeville

Anyone have these? Opinions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGl7kg_OQ08