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Maths Question Help

  • 16-09-2012 1:40pm
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭


    Please if anyone can help me within an hour would be great
    12 Block layers can build a wall in 15 days
    (i)How long would it take 20 block layers working at the same rate
    (ii) How many block layers would be needed to build wall in 10 days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Please if anyone can help me within an hour would be great
    12 Block layers can build a wall in 15 days
    (i)How long would it take 20 block layers working at the same rate
    (ii) How many block layers would be needed to build wall in 10 days

    There are a few ways to do this. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, how long would it take 1 block layer?


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    TheBody wrote: »
    There are a few ways to do this. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, how long would it take 1 block layer?

    Hi than you very much for taking interest i did 15/12 and i got 1.25


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    And then i 1.25*20 and i got 25 while in the back of the book says 9


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, then in would take 1 block layer longer, ie 12 x 15 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Hi than you very much for taking interest i did 15/12 and i got 1.25

    Think about it again. You are on the correct track. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days then surely it'll take 1 block layer 12 times longer. In other words it would take 1 block layer [latex]12 \times 15=180[/latex]days. So if it takes 1 block layer 180 days, how long will it take 20 block layers? (will it be more or less than 180 days?)


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  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    Alright thanks and then you / by 9 thanks guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Alright thanks and then you / by 9 thanks guys

    That's the idea. Well done. In general I advise you to think about what you are doing and not just accept any old number you get after doing a calculation. If you think about your first attempt, you probably would have know that if 12 block layers take 15 days then surely 1 block layer couldn't have done it in 1.25 days.


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    Now what would be part (II)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Its a ratio problem.

    12 is to 15 as what is to 10?

    12:15
    =
    ??:10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Now what would be part (II)

    Same idea. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, how many block layers would it take to get it done in 1 day? (Think about it....would it be more or less than 12?)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Same idea. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, how many block layers would it take to get it done in 1 day? (Think about it....would it be more or less than 12?)

    eh? Have you mixed up the quesions?


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    TheBody wrote: »
    Same idea. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days, how many block layers would it take to get it done in 1 day? (Think about it....would it be more or less than 12?)

    Well to be honest with you i got this one by luck just right now i did 180/10 but to my understanding i do not know how i got it i just did it by luck form the previous i answer tried to divide by 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    eh? Have you mixed up the quesions?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Well to be honest with you i got this one by luck just right now i did 180/10 but to my understanding i do not know how i got it i just did it by luck form the previous i answer tried to divide by 10

    Stupidity edit :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    TheBody wrote: »
    No.

    Sorry, I get what way you were coming at it now.


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    What you do is break the ration into its lowest fraction so

    12:15 turns into 4/5 Then you find 4 5ths of 10 and you get your answer. 8 block layers to build a wall in 10 days.

    Thats wrong answer at the back of book it says 18


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    What you do is break the ration into its lowest fraction so

    12:15 turns into 4/5 Then you find 4 5ths of 10 and you get your answer. 8 block layers to build a wall in 10 days.

    This is incorrect. How could it take less people to do it in less time!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Thats wrong answer at the back of book it says 18

    I've made a right mess of that haha!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    18 is the right answer.
    If it takes 1 block layer 180 days,
    you need to get this down to 10 days
    180/10=18


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Thats wrong answer at the back of book it says 18

    18 is correct.

    12 block layers take 15 days. So it would take 12 X 15=180 to get it done in 1 day. Therefore it would take 18 block layers to get it done in 10 days.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    One last question if you do not mind its just that our teacher never thought us how to do this one
    The perimeter of a rectangle is 200cm
    If length:Breadth=7:3, find the area of the rectangle


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One last question if you do not mind its just that our teacher never thought us how to do this one
    The perimeter of a rectangle is 200cm
    If length:Breadth=7:3, find the area of the rectangle
    perimeter is 2(length + breath)
    let x stand for the distance the ratio stand for
    2(7x + 3x) = 200
    20x = 200
    x =10
    length is 7x ie 7(10 centimetres) = 70cm
    breath is 3x
    the rest should be more straight forward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    One last question if you do not mind its just that our teacher never thought us how to do this one
    The perimeter of a rectangle is 200cm
    If length:Breadth=7:3, find the area of the rectangle

    This isn't too bad. So you need 7 parts off 200 cm along the two lengths and 3 parts along the two breadths. In total you need 10 parts. So you divide 200cm by 10 to give you 20cm. They you want 7X20=140cm along the two lengths and 3X20 60cm along the two breadths. Therefore the length of one side is 70cm and breadth of one side is 30cm. The area is then just [latex]70\times 30=210cm^{2}[/latex].


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    ''Therefore the length of one side is 70cm and breadth of one side is 30cm.''
    Did you just half it
    60=30 and 140=70


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    ''Therefore the length of one side is 70cm and breadth of one side is 30cm.''
    Did you just half it
    60=30 and 140=70

    Yes.


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    I really hope i get a B in Junior Cert even though the way i am going i doubt it but if i get an B i will be over the moon :)
    Thanks all who could take their special time out and help me i hope i was not bother to you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    I really hope i get a B in Junior Cert even though the way i am going i doubt it but if i get an B i will be over the moon :)
    Thanks all who could take their special time out and help me i hope i was not bother to you

    Good luck. Keep your head down, work hard and you will do great. Don't forget there is a maths forum too:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=380

    I'm usually lurking over there. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭MJ434


    I need help with this one :

    If X = p+q/p-q ,express p in terms of q and x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    TheBody wrote: »
    Think about it again. You are on the correct track. If it takes 12 block layers 15 days then surely it'll take 1 block layer 12 times longer. In other words it would take 1 block layer [latex]12 \times 15=180[/latex]days. So if it takes 1 block layer 180 days, how long will it take 20 block layers? (will it be more or less than 180 days?)

    Ho how many block layers we need to build a house in 360 days??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    MJ434 wrote: »
    I need help with this one :

    If X = p+q/p-q ,express p in terms of q and x

    Hi there.

    [latex]x=\frac{p+q}{p-q}[/latex]

    Multiplying both side by [latex]x=p-q[/latex] to get:

    [latex]x(p-q)= p+q[/latex]

    Multiply out the left hand side to get:

    [latex]xp-xq= p+q[/latex]

    Subtract [latex]p[/latex] from both sides:

    [latex]xp-xq-p=q[/latex]

    Add [latex]xq[/latex] to both sides:

    [latex]xp-p=q+xq[/latex]

    Factorise p out of the left hand side:

    [latex]p(x-1)=q+xq[/latex]

    Divide both sides by [latex](x-1)[/latex] to get:

    [latex]p=\frac{q+xq}{(x-1)}[/latex]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭MJ434


    Hi,
    Thanks a mill for that...

    U wouldn't be able to help me with this one would u? :P

    Solve the equation:

    1/x-1 + 4/x = 3

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    Multiply all the elements in that equation by all the bottom lines. They should cancel out so everything ends up "above the line" and you have no fractions. Then you'll just have a regular equation in x, which you can shuffle around to solve for x.


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    Multiply all the elements in that equation by all the bottom lines. They should cancel out so everything ends up "above the line" and you have no fractions. Then you'll just have a regular equation in x, which you can shuffle around to solve for x.

    do you multiply everything by 3 also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    do you multiply everything by 3 also

    No need to. Just multiply everything by x(x-1)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    TheBody wrote: »
    No need to. Just multiply everything by x(x-1)

    What they said.

    Hint: 3 isn't on the bottom line. 3 is the same as 3/1.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭MJ434


    Can some do this one:
    Simplify (2x-z)(6x+3z)-(6a-3z)(2a+z) and factorise full the simplified expression.
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭MJ434


    TheBody wrote: »

    Can some do this one: Simplify (2x-z)(6x+3z)-(6a-3z)(2a+z) and factorise full the simplified expression. Thanks


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