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World Championships **Spoiler tags required for same day race info**

  • 16-09-2012 7:32am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭


    Delighted to see that Cycling Ireland have confirmed Ronan Mc Laughlin as the final Irish rider to join Roche and Martin on the start line in Valkenburg next Sunday.He's been really aggresive all week in the TOB and this end of season selection is a real boost for him,and just might make up for him missing out on the ras stage win in to his home county earlier in the year.A coincidence here also,as he becomes the second rider from Muff in Donegal to have a rider on the Irish team for the Worlds,joining Matthew Doyle who was already selected for the Junior R/R.Great work by various new clubs in that part of the country producing riders.Good luck to all the team this week and hopefully Ryan Mullen can kick start things with a strong showing in the Jun TT tomorrow morning.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    I'm delighted to see Ronan McLaughlin selected. He'll ride his heart out for the green jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    wav1 wrote: »
    Delighted to see that Cycling Ireland have confirmed Ronan Mc Laughlin as the final Irish rider to join Roche and Martin on the start line in Valkenburg next Sunday.He's been really aggresive all week in the TOB and this end of season selection is a real boost for him,and just might make up for him missing out on the ras stage win in to his home county earlier in the year.A coincidence here also,as he becomes the second rider from Muff in Donegal to have a rider on the Irish team for the Worlds,joining Matthew Doyle who was already selected for the Junior R/R.Great work by various new clubs in that part of the country producing riders.Good luck to all the team this week and hopefully Ryan Mullen can kick start things with a strong showing in the Jun TT tomorrow morning.

    I have no doubt he will ride himself to a standstill! It's a big team and a big backup team to ensure the riders have everything they need. Also, we had some of the TT'ers out on a training camp on the circuit a few weeks ago. hopefully it will pay off with good performances. I can honestly say we have done as much as we can to support them and its over to them. Next year if we can take it a step further forward it will be great. I think if we can get a junior female to the line in the next few years it will be a really positive step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,616 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    yaaay

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    Mullen 9th in the Junior TT.

    He will be disappointed with that. Looks like he went out a bit hard and faded in the last km's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    morana wrote: »
    Mullen 9th in the Junior TT.

    He will be disappointed with that. Looks like he went out a bit hard and faded in the last km's

    Anywhere with highlights of this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    morana wrote: »
    Mullen 9th in the Junior TT.

    He will be disappointed with that. Looks like he went out a bit hard and faded in the last km's
    Yes,I agree.2nd at the last timecheck and then faded.A super talent but just needs to keep the powder dry.Not a bad start to the week though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Actual Paramedic


    Top 10, yeah he might be disappointed but still in the top 10. Well done Ryan


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,444 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Women's TT tomorrow - just a reminder to apply spoiler rules (ie use spoiler tags if posting same day race information in any thread, including this one). If you want to discuss a race without using spoiler tags, start a race-specific thread

    Do not start any new thread commenting on the performance of any rider(s) (even if an Irish rider does well). Stick with race specific threads or this one (with spoiler tags) until the following day

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭cormpat


    Does anyone know the approx finishing time for the big one on Sunday? What, with it being All Ireland Final day on Sunday I'd like to watch both but imagine the road race is going to finish some time after 3:30, which is the time the GAA kicks off....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    Pro race to finish at about 5 15 dutch time[6 15]irish time.Usually a bit earlier than schedule though


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,444 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Official website here

    Results of Women's TT here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    wav1 wrote: »
    Pro race to finish at about 5 15 dutch time[6 15]irish time.Usually a bit earlier than schedule though
    Sorry that should be 5 15 dutch time [4 15] irish time.Went the wrong way.Are there many on here who are travelling out for the road races?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    What are peoples thoughts on the elite mens route

    01_parcours_heren_elite_ENG.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭flying11


    would Hutchinson have an outside chance of a top 10 finish in the ITT today? He broke the 25 mile record a few weeks back so his form must be decent but would the climbs rule him out of contention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,518 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    The Elite Men's Individual Time Trial is on this afternoon (Mods, feel free to move this to a separate stage-specific thread if it is needed).

    Tony Martin is the defending champion.
    Wiggo and Spartacus who were 2nd and 3rd respectively last year are not competing this year, but Bertie is!

    Stage profile:
    elitemenstt_1_600.jpg

    Full start list and times

    Selected start times (CET):
    Segundo Navarrete (Ecu) 13:30:00
    .....
    Michael Hutchinson (Ire) 13:44:00
    .....
    Peter Velits (Svk) 14:58:00
    Gustav Larsson (Swe) 15:00:00
    Jonathan Castroviejo (Spa) 15:02:00
    Lieuwe Westra (Ned) 15:04:00
    Bert Grabsch (Ger) 15:06:00
    Luke Durbridge (Aus) 15:08:00
    Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) 15:10:00
    Svein Tuft (Can) 15:12:00
    Tejay Van Garderen (USA) 15:14:00
    Marco Pinotti (Ita) 15:16:00
    Fredrik Kessiakoff (Swe) 15:18:00
    Taylor Phinney (USA) 15:20:00
    Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) 15:22:00
    Tony Martin (Ger) 15:24:00

    Race betting: Martin 4/7; Contador 9/2; Kessiakoff 8/1; Van Garderen 12/1; Phinney 22/1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    wav1 wrote: »
    Sorry that should be 5 15 dutch time [4 15] irish time.Went the wrong way.Are there many on here who are travelling out for the road races?

    Raam is, I do believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭on_the_nickel


    Anyone know where I can view the full final classification? All I know now is that my bets (Bert on the nose, Chavanel e/w) continued my current bad streak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Martin 1st, Phinney 2nd @ 5 secs, Kiryienka in 3rd @ 1.44. Martin caught and passed Contador at 30kms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Anyone know where I can view the full final classification? All I know now is that my bets (Bert on the nose, Chavanel e/w) continued my current bad streak.

    Here and here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Taylor Phinney, always the bridesmaid, eh? 4th in both Olympic events, and now no WC jersey. Poor bastard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭Junior


    Saw on Twitter that
    Tony Martin
    rode a f*ckin 58 ! What an animal !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,234 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Junior wrote: »
    Saw on Twitter that
    Tony Martin
    rode a f*ckin 58 ! What an animal !

    It seems he rode the last 1km in about 55 seconds. That's about 65kph.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Lumen wrote: »
    It seems he rode the last 1km in about 55 seconds. That's about 65kph.
    Ich muss schnell radfahren :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Pedalare Pedalare!


    What a performance from Tony Martin over the final 3-4km. Superhuman effort.

    Poor Taylor Phinney was heartbroken. Surely he'll have a few World titles to his name in the coming decade.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    What did we say about spoiler tags? I've just had to add them to two posts. Final warning.
    Beasty wrote: »
    Women's TT tomorrow - just a reminder to apply spoiler rules (ie use spoiler tags if posting same day race information in any thread, including this one). If you want to discuss a race without using spoiler tags, start a race-specific thread

    Do not start any new thread commenting on the performance of any rider(s) (even if an Irish rider does well). Stick with race specific threads or this one (with spoiler tags) until the following day

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Lumen wrote: »
    It seems he rode the last 1km in about 55 seconds. That's about 65kph.

    Yeah, I was doing some quick maths coming to the 1km to go mark and reckoned he'd be short and beaten into second by 6-8seconds at the likely rate he was going to manage, shows how bad such judgements can be. He absolutely smoked the last k - I bet his DS was roaring in his ears. 65kmph for nearly a minute.........wow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭on_the_nickel


    What did we say about spoiler tags? I've just had to add them to two posts. Final warning.

    My bad, thought this was a TT specific thread when I posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭crumliniano


    Predictions for the road race anyone? Thinking of a punt. I thought Valverde might be a good bet but after seeing what competing for Vuelta GC did to Contadors legs today I'm having second thoughts. Gilbert looks good but at 11/4 he's not great value. I don't think the course will suit Boonen, though he is on form. Nibali at 20/1 might be worth an each way bet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭buffalo


    My money's on Sagan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,518 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    buffalo wrote: »
    My money's on Sagan.

    Has he raced much since the TdF? I haven't heard him mentioned in any race results. He definitely should be there or there abouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭crumliniano


    Has he raced much since the TdF? I haven't heard him mentioned in any race results. He definitely should be there or there abouts.

    Exactly, I can't imagine he's retained that form. If he has you'd have to fancy him. Bookies have him second favourite behind Gilbert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Has he raced much since the TdF? I haven't heard him mentioned in any race results. He definitely should be there or there abouts.

    He raced in a lot of crits after the Tour I heard, and then he had a go in the GP Quebec but faded 300m from the line. But for someone who can climb those short hills, and still have enough to win the sprint, I can't see beyond him or Gilbert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭drogdub


    Sunday's should be a great race. The battle up the cauberg will be mighty. Was looking at odds and felt like this young fella



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    Should be great.Having quick cup of tea here.Then off to airport for Valkenburg.Tricolours all packed,coz you just never know.4 Irish in U23 race Sat morning,and I just have a feeling........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭CillianL


    Predictions for the road race anyone? Thinking of a punt. I thought Valverde might be a good bet but after seeing what competing for Vuelta GC did to Contadors legs today I'm having second thoughts. Gilbert looks good but at 11/4 he's not great value. I don't think the course will suit Boonen, though he is on form. Nibali at 20/1 might be worth an each way bet?

    Rodriguez
    Voeckler
    Contador
    Gilbert
    Sagan
    Boonen
    Nibali
    Gerrans
    Boson Hagen

    One of them will win it or make the podium. Can anyone think of any dark horses for it? Chris Froome and Dan Martin come to mind, though Moreno Moser has been flying all year as well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    CillianL wrote: »
    Rodriguez
    Voeckler
    Contador
    Gilbert
    Sagan
    Boonen
    Nibali
    Gerrans
    Boson Hagen

    One of them will win it or make the podium. Can anyone think of any dark horses for it? Chris Froome and Dan Martin come to mind, though Moreno Moser has been flying all year as well

    What a mouth-watering list of contenders, most of whom are still going well in the latter part of the season.

    What is the strategy likely to be for the Belgian team..........? They cant be working for both Boonen AND Gilbert for the whole race, can they? Or is it going to be a case of tactics rather than strategy and just seeing which of the two contenders is best placed on the final laps? It will be interesting to watch that one develop.......particularly if Boonen doesn't get away earlier and Sagan is still in the mix.

    Then there's a similar issue in the Spanish team with Contador, Valverde & Purito. etc etc.

    Looking forward to this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Talk about a home advantage - with no race radios, the Dutch DS is using roadside signs to communicate with his riders!

    http://inrng.com/2012/09/the-matrix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭CillianL


    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    What a mouth-watering list of contenders, most of whom are still going well in the latter part of the season.

    What is the strategy likely to be for the Belgian team..........? They cant be working for both Boonen AND Gilbert for the whole race, can they? Or is it going to be a case of tactics rather than strategy and just seeing which of the two contenders is best placed on the final laps? It will be interesting to watch that one develop.......particularly if Boonen doesn't get away earlier and Sagan is still in the mix.

    Then there's a similar issue in the Spanish team with Contador, Valverde & Purito. etc etc.

    Looking forward to this!

    I think it actually suits the Belgians to have two big names in the team as it gives them options no one else has. If the race blows apart into echelons Boonen is more than capable of holding his own, and will take nearly anyone in a sprint, otherwise if Gilbert is first man up the Cauberg on the last lap he's no slouch on the flats either so he'd have to drop Boonen if it it came down to it.

    I reckon the Belgians and the Spanish will control the peloton as long as it suits them and once they get onto the circuit, they'll tighten the screw each lap until the decisive attacks come in the last two laps. Boonen will need to be well positioned coming into the climbs, but seeing how well he climbed in the TTT he should be fine. They'll need to avoid the mistakes made by the Brits in the Olympics though, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Italians and Australians try and catch with their trousers down if they get the chance

    As regards Sagan, he went off making money in crits after the Tour so he's probably knackered after his summer campaign. And everyone will ride to get rid of him as soon as possible. He hasn't got a team to look after him either so unless he's recovered really quickly and he cashes in on a load of favours I can't see him winning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    U23 race on rai sport 2. Boring!
    All our lads in the bunch. Bennett and lavery at the back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Flandria


    Kazakh rider took the sprint and then the feed froze:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Flandria


    Half the field down in a pile up in the women's race and gaps all over the field. Arndt looks to be the biggest loser at the moment. Both our girls caught in the crash but they are starting to come back together a bit now...


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,444 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I've just added spoiler tags to the last 3 posts. As none of them have been reported by other users, I'm going to take it easy on the 2 posters involved. However I will not be so generous next time.

    I would suggest someone starts a race specific thread for the men's race tomorrow to avoid the need for spoiler tags (as they will be required in this thread);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Flandria


    Oops:o


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,444 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Flandria wrote: »
    Oops:o
    Special punishments may be applied to minimise the risk of this happening again. In the case of the "other one" involved, I will be requiring him to be watching the Liverpool v United match instead of the RR - he can drop information on that one into the forum until his heart's content, so long as they are accompanied by these smileys:
    :o
    :mad:
    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Flandria


    Beasty wrote: »
    Special punishments may be applied to minimise the risk of this happening again. In the case of the "other one" involved, I will be requiring him to be watching the Liverpool v United match instead of the RR - he can drop information on that one into the forum until his heart's content, so long as they are accompanied by these smileys:
    :o
    :mad:
    :(

    Well I'm off to the Tour of Lombardy tomorrow so I'll have to forego that particular punishment:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    Beasty wrote: »
    Special punishments may be applied to minimise the risk of this happening again. In the case of the "other one" involved, I will be requiring him to be watching the Liverpool v United match instead of the RR - he can drop information on that one into the forum until his heart's content, so long as they are accompanied by these smileys:
    :o
    :mad:
    :(

    I will! but I am sure it will be more of a
    :D:D:D:D:D:D


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