Oxegen 2013

Morrison J

Do we think its going to happen?

If it does what type of line up do you reckon we are looking at?
Its the 20th anniversary of T In The Park and hopefully we can benefit from their improved line up for this year.

Acts im hoping for:

The Stone Roses
The Black Keys
The Charlatans

Headliners im expecting are:

The Killers

Green Day

Muse

Cosmicfox

Havn't had a chance to go so I hope its back on.

I'd like to see Florence and the machine (probably not big enough to headline anything yet)
Arcade fire (slim since they were at it recently)
Wouldn't mind the Killers, not a huge fan but they were great at the electric picnic.
And biffy clyro

Furious-Red

Mr.S wrote: »

Serious re-brand needed if MCD are even thinking about bringing it back.

Needs fewer stages, much more security needed, better checks going into the arena/campsites.

Solid 2 full days of music on the Friday/Saturday night with the option to arrive Thursday afternoon if you want to.

Acts need to more current and what people want, Oxegen is/was a mainstream festival. Have one "introducing" type stage for less well known/new bands.

Agree with everything with this especially the "introducing stage" like BBC do at most festivals and have it sponsored by 2FM/2XM or something. Price has to be lowered aswell .
Also stop repeating the same acts every year (like last year Tinie Tempah, Plan B etc)

pistonsvox

They also need to stop blaming Gardai for there being no festival this year...

2cool4school

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

green day rule

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

i think electric picnic is what you're looking for!

Furious-Red

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

Status Quo/Simply Red as headliners?

kilograms

Swedish House Mafia should get back together to Headline

Tusky

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

Status Quo, Simply Red, M People, Travis, Wet Wet Wet, The Corrs....I'm sorry to say, you have seriously dreadful taste. Awful awful awful.

twowheelsonly

Mr.S wrote: »

Serious re-brand needed if MCD are even thinking about bringing it back.

Needs fewer stages, much more security needed, better checks going into the arena/campsites.

Solid 2 full days of music on the Friday/Saturday night with the option to arrive Thursday afternoon if you want to.

Acts need to more current and what people want, Oxegen is/was a mainstream festival. Have one "introducing" type stage for less well known/new bands.

Furious-Red wrote: »

Agree with everything with this especially the "introducing stage" like BBC do at most festivals and have it sponsored by 2FM/2XM or something. Price has to be lowered as well .
Also stop repeating the same acts every year (like last year Tinie Tempah, Plan B etc)

Can't see any price being lowered if people want more music and more security. These things all cost money!! IMO it will go on but possibly on a smaller/shorter scale.

It's hard not to repeat acts as, when you think about it, how many genuine headliners are actually on the circuit at any time? Dig too deep and you end up going down the route of Electric Picnic- and good as it is there's no point in having two of them!!

I'd also like to see a 'New Band' promotion, AFAIK the Hot Press Stage catered for that previously. However I'd love to see a genuine new fresh Irish band given a 15/30 minute slot directly before the main act each night. It could only be good for the Irish music scene in general and for MCD themselves if any of them really clicked.

Furious-Red

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Can't see any price being lowered if people want more music and more security. These things all cost money!! IMO it will go on but possibly on a smaller/shorter scale.

It's hard not to repeat acts as, when you think about it, how many genuine headliners are actually on the circuit at any time? Dig too deep and you end up going down the route of Electric Picnic- and good as it is there's no point in having two of them!!

I'd also like to see a 'New Band' promotion, AFAIK the Hot Press Stage catered for that previously. However I'd love to see a genuine new fresh Irish band given a 15/30 minute slot directly before the main act each night. It could only be good for the Irish music scene in general and for MCD themselves if any of them really clicked.

I never said anything about more bands , as Mr S said downscale it with less acts , even drop the capacity if need be aswell to reduce money .

Yea i do agree that it is hard to find new headliners , i mostly mean no repeat of lower billed acts

Mickolution

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

Ummmm?

Seriously though, I would be very surprised if there's an Oxegen as it was next year. I have no basis for this, but I would guess the plan was to see how this year went and have a full festival with no camping in the Park. Of course, this can't happen in that venue now, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen somewhere else near enough Dublin. Look around Europe and non-camping city festivals are everywhere. They're much less hassle for security and size and would be reasonably cheap to put on, although site rental would be more expensive in a city.

the_doctor199

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

maximoose

Mr.S wrote: »

Needs fewer stages, much more security needed, better checks going into the arena/campsites.

Yes, yes and yes.

I think it just really needs to sort out who it is trying to target. They were still calling it "the ulimate rock 'n' roll weekend" or something along those lines last year when it was anything but rock and roll.

maguic24

To be honest, I doubt it'll be back next year, given the current economic climate. They will find it very hard to sell tickets at the price they were selling at. People just don't have the money and they are not going to put it on again, to make a loss.

There's a possibility it could be downsized, with lesser acts playing at it.

karaokeman

2cool4school wrote: »

a few real headliners like status quo or simply red would be nice to see

make it a real festival like

as it is its just for the kids - no attraction for an older crowd

but if they got a few bands with cross-generational appeal it might work

m people, travis, wet wet wet - the kind of bands everyone likes

if its going to survive it has to have a broad appeal like that

personally id love to see the corrs back on the road and playing oxygen

The acts you mentioned are actually much better than the pop acts that are likely to play Oxegen.

A Corrs reunion is still light years away, even if it happens I'd say they would do their own gigs, not really suited to the Oxegen crowd imo.

brettharting

It might be even rougher next year.

All the usual scumbags will have had less opportunities to vent their frustrations over the summer this year.

greasemonkeyd4

I agree with the changing the format of all the bands but what I think needs to be done is get rid of Oxegen completely and give the festival a new name and venue,and acts as you recomended above like wet wet wet,Simply Red,Status quo etc,and also giving opportunities for new bands to get exposure in the music scene.All brilliant Ideas I do think its VERY important that the name is changed as the people who are known to cause trouble don't always go down for the music as such but just to cause trouble as there free and wild and at a festival with thousands of people with no care for the music.I think if they do as I mentioned above that they need to market it better to a more mature audience and keep it away from marketing it on the likes of Spin and FM104 but more newstalk,phantom,2fm Q102 etc.Also I think to capture this Market Niche perhaps in the main arena make it into a food and Wine festival as well,where you can taste wines from all over the world and experience multi-cultural cuisine and gourmet food and catering rather than curry chips and a battered sausage.I think if they apply this concept they will capture an audience that are there for the love of the music and who will appreciate the true purpose of a festival.By applying this I reckon it will reduce arrests and violence by a mile!!

im invisible

how about moving it to somewhere like fairyhouse, and calling it Witnness

rg99

daft punk are possibly returning, if they release a new album this year (rumour is they are) that'd be the only reason I'd go, it's filthy and full of scum who are only there to drink and fight.

df1985

wouldnt be suprised in the slightest if it didnt return to be honest. Although they might rely on the fact it wasnt on this year that maybe more will want to go.

Considering the consequences the SHM gig had for the Marlay park gigs....oxegen will be like fort knox.

mccarroll

greasemonkeyd4 wrote: »

I agree with the changing the format of all the bands but what I think needs to be done is get rid of Oxegen completely and give the festival a new name and venue,and acts as you recomended above like wet wet wet,Simply Red,Status quo etc,and also giving opportunities for new bands to get exposure in the music scene.All brilliant Ideas I do think its VERY important that the name is changed as the people who are known to cause trouble don't always go down for the music as such but just to cause trouble as there free and wild and at a festival with thousands of people with no care for the music.I think if they do as I mentioned above that they need to market it better to a more mature audience and keep it away from marketing it on the likes of Spin and FM104 but more newstalk,phantom,2fm Q102 etc.Also I think to capture this Market Niche perhaps in the main arena make it into a food and Wine festival as well,where you can taste wines from all over the world and experience multi-cultural cuisine and gourmet food and catering rather than curry chips and a battered sausage.I think if they apply this concept they will capture an audience that are there for the love of the music and who will appreciate the true purpose of a festival.By applying this I reckon it will reduce arrests and violence by a mile!!

Oh turning Oxegen into a wine tasting festival

nocoverart

Hopefully it won't happen! but I don't care either way really. I mean, it's really just for scangers that know as much about music as they do about self hygiene. The EP festival and crowd is actually no better, they just think they are. What does that make me? a moody sod I guess

AdMMM

What I'm hearing is that it's (maybe not under Oxegen name) going to be run as a two day festival to reduce costs. Should mean reduced costs to the punter as well.

granturismo

AdMMM wrote: »

What I'm hearing is that it's (maybe not under Oxegen name) going to be run as a two day festival to reduce costs. Should mean reduced costs to the punter as well.

Some of the various owners of Punchestown are meeting and word seems to be that Oxegen will be held in 2013 because they need revenue but it will be a smaller event and not held every year to minimise damage to the ground surfaces.

melekalikimaka

will make a bet with anyone it will return under a different name this year. Will be sh1t again because irish people so not know how to behave at a festival -FACT

ghostdancer

melekalikimaka wrote: »

will make a bet with anyone it will return under a different name this year. Will be sh1t again because irish people so not know how to behave at a festival -FACT

apart from the tens, if not hundreds of festivals this summer that were great, because 99% of people who go to festivals aren't the tw@ts that go to Oxegen.

Furious-Red

Think they are better off starting again with a new name , layout etc and try build it up again

srm23

Furious-Red wrote: »

Think they are better off starting again with a new name , layout etc and try build it up again

build it and the knackers will come

greasemonkeyd4

Not a wine tasting festival the highlight to be music but by having something like that it will attract a much more mature audience who appreciate things more that not all but the majority of todays generation of youth.As i mentioned having stalls for wine,good cuisine and gourmet and multi cultural food would a attract a good crowd of proper music lovers who appreciate good music and would also be good to get top bartenders to make great tasting cocktails and mixed drinks like what Bacardi do in electric picnic anD indiependance.maybe get the bartenders association on board to host one of their cocktail competitions for each bartender to make their own special creation and then sell it to the audience.These small innovative things could be a way forward on looking at things to improve the crowd that attend oxegen

Furious-Red

greasemonkeyd4 wrote: »

Not a wine tasting festival the highlight to be music but by having something like that it will attract a much more mature audience who appreciate things more that not all but the majority of todays generation of youth.As i mentioned having stalls for wine,good cuisine and gourmet and multi cultural food would a attract a good crowd of proper music lovers who appreciate good music and would also be good to get top bartenders to make great tasting cocktails and mixed drinks like what Bacardi do in electric picnic anD indiependance.maybe get the bartenders association on board to host one of their cocktail competitions for each bartender to make their own special creation and then sell it to the audience.These small innovative things could be a way forward on looking at things to improve the crowd that attend oxegen

I do think if they had an festival like Isle of Wight a good mix of rock and pop more catered for music fans over "lets pay €XXX to get drunk in a field" . They could combine festival line ups of IOW,Glasto,Hard Rock Calling etc with big acts and smaller line ups lower price . 2 stages with one smaller for irish acts , smaller capacity etc

languagenerd

I definitely agree that they need to pick a target audience and stick with it. A few years ago, people might have bought tickets because there were 3 or 4 bands that they liked on the bill, but nowadays very few people will spend €200+ if there's only 3 bands they like, especially as there's a high chance that two will be on at the same time or that all three will be on different days.

If they don't want to limit themselves to a single genre, they could do it on a smaller scale- book a few bands of a similar genre/with a similar fanbase and put them all on the same stage and the same day. So maybe on Day 1, there'd be a Rock stage and a Radio-Pop stage (they don't have to be named either, I just mean having 5 or 6 similar acts on) and on Day 2, an Indie stage and a Dance stage, as well as maybe one more stage for new/Irish acts. That kind of thing. I know I'd be more likely to buy a day ticket to see 6 bands I like than a weekend ticket to see 3 I like and a ton I half-know of.

I noticed last year (2011) that because Beyonce was on the main stage later in the day, the crowd was awful for Manic Street Preachers and Slash, as it was mainly Beyonce fans waiting in the pit, bored and annoyed by people who were jumping/dancing/screaming along. It was fairly off-putting if you were there for any of the other bands that day, because some of the people around you clearly weren't impressed - and that might put me off going again, if my favourite band were sandwiched between two pop acts or something. Specialising the stages or choosing a target market would make it a more enjoyable experience for all, and might attract more music fans than drinking fans.

Also I've noticed a few posters in this thread assuming that all "young" Oxegen-goers are scumbags and that what they need is an older audience. That's a generalisation, and an unfair one at that. There are 50-year-old skangers and 20-year-old genuine music fans too, you know.

(Sorry about the wall of text!)

Furious-Red

languagenerd wrote: »

I definitely agree that they need to pick a target audience and stick with it. A few years ago, people might have bought tickets because there were 3 or 4 bands that they liked on the bill, but nowadays very few people will spend €200+ if there's only 3 bands they like, especially as there's a high chance that two will be on at the same time or that all three will be on different days.

If they don't want to limit themselves to a single genre, they could do it on a smaller scale- book a few bands of a similar genre/with a similar fanbase and put them all on the same stage and the same day. So maybe on Day 1, there'd be a Rock stage and a Radio-Pop stage (they don't have to be named either, I just mean having 5 or 6 similar acts on) and on Day 2, an Indie stage and a Dance stage, as well as maybe one more stage for new/Irish acts. That kind of thing. I know I'd be more likely to buy a day ticket to see 6 bands I like than a weekend ticket to see 3 I like and a ton I half-know of.

I noticed last year (2011) that because Beyonce was on the main stage later in the day, the crowd was awful for Manic Street Preachers and Slash, as it was mainly Beyonce fans waiting in the pit, bored and annoyed by people who were jumping/dancing/screaming along. It was fairly off-putting if you were there for any of the other bands that day, because some of the people around you clearly weren't impressed - and that might put me off going again, if my favourite band were sandwiched between two pop acts or something. Specialising the stages or choosing a target market would make it a more enjoyable experience for all, and might attract more music fans than drinking fans.

Also I've noticed a few posters in this thread assuming that all "young" Oxegen-goers are scumbags and that what they need is an older audience. That's a generalisation, and an unfair one at that. There are 50-year-old skangers and 20-year-old genuine music fans too, you know.

(Sorry about the wall of text!)

Yea i remember watching MSP and you could see the band were not really into it and ive seen them twice before (Oxegen 08 and the olympia few weeks before Oxegen) and they were brilliant , but tbh i would'nt really blame them because as you said everyone in the pit was just in to wait for Beyonce and i just felt sorry for the band . Again same thing with Slash , i ended up having to leave because of the crowd , the band themselves were savage but all everyone around me were just chatting, sitting , no atmosphere so i left and went to see Jimmy Eat World on the 2nd stage who ended up have a ****ty sized crowd which is a sham.

Also agree with the generalistion about all the scumbags etc being all the young people. Ive been to many gigs where people of all ages have acted like scumbags etc

loveboat captain

I've never been to Oxegen and to be honest have never really wanted to based on the horror story's. I can see where people are coming from though, it is amazing how different festival goers on these islands are compared to festival goers in say Belgium. The Rock Werchter crowd is so much more relaxed and accommodating than anything I've seen at a British or Irish festival.

Someone mentioned making Oxegen more like Isle Of Wight? We were there this year, for the 3 headliners, and although the headliners were excellent the rest was pretty much awful. The layout is shocking, travel across the island poor and variety of food minimal at best. Add to that an over reliance on pop acts and you get a lot of drunk kids running about complaining about the headliners and a lot of slightly older people not bothered about every other act. If they want to make Ocegen successful in any way they must figure out what their target audience is. Glastonbury is great in theory but its the huge scale, variety on offer and clientele that makes Glastonbury what it is, you will struggle to get anything like it in Ireland

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

If it does come back, it should be a 2 day festival like it was pre 08, and prices need to go down.

Furious-Red

Yea i think Ireland does need another festival agains EP . Id be happy with Oxegen just doing the mainstream acts as said above and then have other gigs like Hard Rock Calling/Hyde Park just one day gigs like the PP gigs this year with bands like Pearl Jam, Green Day 4 or 5 support acts and no camping

Gigigi

What are the chances of bon iver hitting oxegen 2013?

MaxSteele

I've been at the last three Oxegens, and after the last one in 2011, I swore and still swear I'll never go back to that dump.

One bloke with us was bottled with a Bulmers bottle in the face. Required stitches right from his forehead, across his nose, down to his cheek. Told us he was screaming crying when the doctors were stitching his hanging skin back on. And this same man has done time in prison too. Rotten.

One girl was raped right across from us, led away by emergency services and the Xbox stage had multiple stabbings on the sunday night after Coldplay.

It's just a knackerfest now unfortunately. The days of Witness and good festival music have been replaced with scumbags and ****e, generic chart music.

lc180

Gigigi wrote: »

What are the chances of bon iver hitting oxegen 2013?

I read somewhere that they are going on a break after the current tour so it could be a couple years at least before they are back playing live together, if they get back together at all.

nocoverart

if Oxegen does come back I'd be very surprised if there is camping. A two day event with no camping is the way to go to to decrease problems me thinks.

crzycrz

kilograms wrote: »

Swedish House Mafia should get back together to Headline

No, no they ****ing shouldn't . . .
Leave them **** dance/pop acts somewhere else!

And bring The Strokes, Jack White, The Cribs, Morrissey, QOTSA and maybe put some heavy band in this year in replacement for **** pop

revz

It still haunts me to this day that I didn't see Daft Punk in 2007. If they return, I would too

Melion

revz wrote: »

It still haunts me to this day that I didn't see Daft Punk in 2007. If they return, I would too

One of the greatest things ive ever seen.

melekalikimaka

Mr.S wrote: »

The "horror stories" about Oxegen where always very exaggerated, blown up in the media. The crowd is a bit Knackery but what do you expect, Promoters can't exactly not let them in!

I have worked at every single Oxegen, and I assure you the stories are not exaggerated, in the slightest, not nearly half the horror stories that occur there get out, I wouldnt let my sister step foot in the place, it was a black hole of trouble. Got gradually worse from year one

nommm

They should definately reduce the number of stages. 2011's line-up had too much filler and all the good acts were on at the same time. I found that we had nothing to see till after 5pm most days. 2/3 stages with a good line-up ( have a dance stage, main stage and another a smaller stage for the smaller acts)

seamey beag84

Melion wrote: »

One of the greatest things ive ever seen.

I've been goin to at least 2 festivals a year for the last 8 years with plenty of gigs in between and i can safely say that Daft Punk at Oxegen was the best live show I've ever witnessed. The encore blew me away!! still get goose bumps at the thought of it..

utyh2ikcq9z76b

nocoverart wrote: »

if Oxegen does come back I'd be very surprised if there is camping. A two day event with no camping is the way to go to to decrease problems me thinks.

Thats basically what MCD done this year, with a series of day events in Phoenix Park and look how that turned out

flas

Just on what people are saying above,i have been to festivals and gigs since iv been 15,im 24 now,nothing has come close or anywhere near it to daft punk that glorious night!every time i stick on their live stuff i get goosebumps!

sisco

Lillie Uptight Region wrote: »

Thats basically what MCD done this year, with a series of day events in Phoenix Park and look how that turned out

ITS definitely going ahead, look at my post

jossnjuice

sisco wrote: »

ITS definitely going ahead, look at my post

Source or GTFO.

recyclebin

There would need to be an announcement pretty soon to get some of the Christmas market. Otherwise I can't seeing it going ahead.