2012 All Ireland SHC Final Replay, Galway V Kilkenny - read warning #498

Clareman

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Round 3 of this saga between Galway and Kilkenny.

Bring it on !

The_Kew_Tour

Hopefully the drama will be just the same, but better Hurling and then we have the perfect game.

Still anything like last week will do.

Think Cats will just win it by 2-3 points this time.

Its very hard to say how Glaway will feel after last week. Lucky in that they got last minute score and that they showed they can play under biggest pressure.....but...........its game they should have won also and its hard to see Kilkenny not scoring least 1 goal in this final.

Makings of cracker.

allthedoyles

Other than Canning , none of the Galway forwards scored ..................will have to improve on that next day .

Galway well capable of a few goals -.....The KK goalie is weak .

Amprodude

The experience of playing in an All Ireland Final will be huge for Galway and I think they know they are good enough to match Kilkenny. Once they prevent Kilkenny scoring a goal early on in the match, they have every chance of winning this one. They just need to believe they can do it.

BQQ

allthedoyles wrote: »

Other than Canning , none of the Galway forwards scored ..................will have to improve on that next day .

Galway well capable of a few goals -.....The KK goalie is weak .

Niall Burke scored 1-2, I'm pretty sure.

The other 4 failed to score though.

Amprodude

BQQ wrote: »

allthedoyles wrote: »

Other than Canning , none of the Galway forwards scored ..................will have to improve on that next day .

Galway well capable of a few goals -.....The KK goalie is weak .

Niall Burke scored 1-2, I'm pretty sure.

The other 4 failed to score though.

Correct, but remarkably he was kept very quiet by Hogan in the second half.

Amprodude

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hopefully the drama will be just the same, but better Hurling and then we have the perfect game.

Still anything like last week will do.

Think Cats will just win it by 2-3 points this time.

Its very hard to say how Glaway will feel after last week. Lucky in that they got last minute score and that they showed they can play under biggest pressure.....but...........its game they should have won also and its hard to see Kilkenny not scoring least 1 goal in this final.

Makings of cracker.

They have the experience of playing in an All Ireland final now and I believe once they keep their shape around the field they can win this one. What I liked about Galway after the game the last day after final whistle was blown they did their cooling down session straight away. Physcologically to me it showed that they were prepared to go again. Other teams might have the look of dissapointment on their faces after such an epic battle and not winning but Galway didnt show those signs. I was impressed by that.

Kojak

Amprodude wrote: »

The experience of playing in an All Ireland Final will be huge for Galway and I think they know they are good enough to match Kilkenny. Once they prevent Kilkenny scoring a goal early on in the match, they have every chance of winning this one. They just need to believe they can do it.

Would agree with this to a certain extent - you seen in the drawn game that when KK didn't get the goal from the 21 yard free early on, it seemed to rattle them.

Conversly, if Galway were not to get an early goal (like they did in the draw and the LF), would Galway settle into the game as quickly? I would have my doubts - they might end up constantly going for goals when easier points would be on offer.

If Galway are to win, they will need to stop giving away needless frees (12 of KK's 19 points were from the placed ball). Also, more being more calm/assured in front of goal is necessary for the tribesmen to have a chance of winning.

KK, on the other hand, will expect big performances from most of their forward line - but the thing is, 4 of 6 Galway forwards didn't score at all, while all but Colin Fennelly (i think) scored for KK (albeit 1 or 2 points at most), so Galway will feel that if they can hold out the KK forwards again, and get a better return from the other 4 forwards, then they have a great chance.

KK are still the favourites for this replay, but the experience that Galway have gained from the draw (i.e. the build up to the final, hype, press meetings, the meeting of Michael D. etc.) will stand to them the next day.

If canning, or Shefflin, have off days, it could well come down to which set of forwards can take on the mantle of leaders.

feckarse

KK forwards really need to stand up for them to win. There was no real game plan there which was surprising. Only 7 scores from play, unheard of really for them. Big days needed fro,m Larkin, Power, Fennelly (and indeed his brother in mid) and Fogerty. TJ has been going well but I'd expect him to swap with Hogan for this one. If Galway get a lead again, they need to push on and stop sitting back.

Diabhal Beag

Niall Burke had a brilliant first half but he also wasn't caught napping in the second in comparison to David Burke and Regan. Can't see Hayes, Cyril or David Burke being that bad again though. I'd love to see Niall Burke be given the free-taking duties from long-range though. Big Joe is always liable to miss 2 frees a game but he no doubt makes up for it big-time.

Hopefully Tan will have another stormer. IMO he already won his All-Star after last week but he'll be vital to a possible Galway win. Smith was a spectator for the most part.

Defense had a confident game but eventually as the forwards are dragged back the aimless clearances come in abundance. Personally can't see another clean sheet though as much as it pains me to say it.

This match is way harder to call than the first. The big day didn't get to Galway like some people thought and they threw the win away. The mind games have already started so confidence is brewing in Cunningham's charges. Would be a dream year for Galway hurling if they can pull it off and Galway fans will be out in force.

Gaillimh Abú arís!!

ShamoBuc

I hope it lives up all the hype and I think it will. Galway will have learned alot from the first game, but so will kk. I think kk have the chance to improve more than galway and I expect them to win. I also think that there will be alot more goals than the last day.
Whichever team win they will of course deserve it - Galway for playing kk 3 times and not losing and kk because they are one, if not the, best hurling teams of all time.

redzerologhlen

Its a flip of a coin for me at the moment. I think Kilkenny were caught on the hop in the leinster final and the werent expecting such a good Galway performance straight out of the blocks. Both the Galway and Kilkenny forwards seemed very cagey the last day and Galways early lead seemed to stem out of their dominance in midfield and defence but in fairness Kilkenny had the nerve to hold on and the few handy frees the got at the end of the first half would have given them a nice boost going into the second half. I have heard a lot of people saying Galway will be destroyed in the replay but I cant see it happening tbh. Galways defence seems to be very strong as does their midfield, if they could be a small bit more disciplined in the replay then I think the have every chance. They kept kilkenny in the game through needless frees in a lot of cases on a day the kilkenny forwards were not firing, the Galway forwards were no better.

Its impossible for me to call it but I will be shouting for the tribesmen. Hopefully the game wont be as cagey the next day and will be more free flowing. I wonder would it be better for Galway to go into half time level with them so as to avoid the defensive setup they have adopeted to hold their lead in the second half, they are generally fairly good in attack but they need the men up there, I think the would have won last weekend if their forwards would have stayed up and picked off a few points rather than playing into the hands of the Kilkenny half back line for the second half. Either way it has all the makings of a cracker and its nice to see that Galway have finally landed on the scene. Hopefully sometime over the next few years I will be able to say the same about the banner men

JFlah

Looking forward to this immensely mainly because I can,t pick a winner!
If Galway put a full 70 minutes together I still fancy them but only if they play for a full 70. We all know what Kilkenny are capable of when on form I just wonder though is that extra few % that separated them from everyone else finally going/gone, every team no matter who reaches that point at some stage maybe this is it for KK? I can,t wait to find out and either way I hope the game rounds of a decent championship in style .

Fingers crossed.

Clareman

Change of plans for me, I'll now be watching the match on TV this will be the first All Ireland Clare have been in that I've missed I think.

It'll be a very close game, I think Clare will have enough to get past the Cats, the Clare minor team know that they left an All Ireland behind them and hopefully will be smarter to deal with anything KK throw at them, hopefully 2 points to Clare.

Clareman

Clareman wrote: »

Change of plans for me, I'll now be watching the match on TV this will be the first All Ireland Clare have been in that I've missed I think.

It'll be a very close game, I think Clare will have enough to get past the Cats, the Clare minor team know that they left an All Ireland behind them and hopefully will be smarter to deal with anything KK throw at them, hopefully 2 points to Clare.

Wrong thread

Clareman

D'oh, I'm a bit of a newb around here clearly

Clemon

Will Eddie Keher be playing?

paddy no 11

Tony og had a mare on sheff in the 2nd half, presumably he'll start at CF in the replay, this is galways major problem i think, match hinges on this.

Clemon

Tony óg seemed to be first to lots of ball but dropped it 4 or 5 times. If he caught them cleanly he would have emulated Brian Hogan's performance in the 2nd half.

His two hastily hit wides from long range frees also handed momentum to Kilkenny.

Have faith in him for the next day though. He has been improving with every game.

K4t

If Michael Fennelly is fully fit I see Kilkenny winning, otherwise it will probably end up being decided by Shefflin/Canning again.

Clemon

Fennelly was fairly fit the last day and Tannion hurled him off the pitch, and before anyone says Fennelly wasn't fully fit he was fitter than he was Vs. Tipp.

Galway's midfield have really surprised this year and are playing out of their skin. Smith is a mighty bit of stuff.

Swiper the fox

The Independent today is reporting that Barry Kelly is likely to referee the replay also, good news surely, he had a blinder the last day, one of the best refereeing performances I can recall seeing.

Clareman

Swiper the fox wrote: »

The Independent today is reporting that Barry Kelly is likely to referee the replay also, good news surely, he had a blinder the last day, one of the best refereeing performances I can recall seeing.

They'll have to change the rules to let this happen, that rule was changed in 98

adrian522

The twitter machine informs me that James McGrath will ref the replay.

MfMan

Clareman wrote: »

They'll have to change the rules to let this happen, that rule was changed in 98

Didn't think it was a rule, more of a 'habit'.

Clareman

I actually don't know if it's a rule or not, I just remember in 98 Jimmy Cooney had to get special dispensation as to not have to replay the 3rd game cause standard practise back then was for the same refs for all replays

premierstone

MfMan is right there is no actual rule in place its just the 'done thing'

aidan24326

Really looking forward to this one and I think it has the makings of another cracker. Both teams have a lot of room for improvement. Galway will hardly have 4 scoreless forwards the next day, and equally you'd expect a couple of Kilkenny's star forwards to have a bigger say in it the next time. Hard to know how this one will go. But Galway definitely need to cut out this nonsense of dropping back and going so defensive in the second half, play that way again and we'll be beaten out the gate.

Swiper the fox

premierstone wrote: »

MfMan is right there is no actual rule in place its just the 'done thing'

Well if there is no rule it would be madness to use anyone except Kelly, nobody could have any complaint.

premierstone

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Well if there is no rule it would be madness to use anyone except Kelly, nobody could have any complaint.

James McGrath has been confirmed as the ref.

aidan24326

Not familiar with James McGrath. What other games did he ref this year?


Barry Kelly did get a few decisions wrong the last day and both teams got frees that could be considered 'soft'. I hope McGrath will let the game flow and not be so quick to give handy frees. That said, the Galway defence will need to be a lot more disciplined, they gave away some stupid frees the last day and it kept Kilkenny in the game.

aidan24326

aidan24326 wrote: »

Not familiar with James McGrath. What other games did he ref this year?


Barry Kelly did get a few decisions wrong the last day and both teams got frees that could be considered 'soft'. I hope McGrath will let the game flow and not be so quick to give handy frees. That said, the Galway defence will need to be a lot more disciplined, they gave away some stupid frees the last day and it kept Kilkenny in the game.

McGrath did the Leinster final. He didn't blow for the first free until the 5th minute(to KK in their full back line). He let the game flow bar anything over the top.

I think this will suit us more again.

earlytobed

gilberto_eire wrote: »

McGrath did the Leinster final. He didn't blow for the first free until the 5th minute(to KK in their full back line). He let the game flow bar anything over the top.

I think this will suit us more again.

His style will suit both sides in the replay. I thought Kelly is unnecessarily fussy in games that are hard without being dirty

Duiske

gilberto_eire wrote: »

McGrath did the Leinster final. He didn't blow for the first free until the 5th minute(to KK in their full back line). He let the game flow bar anything over the top.

I think this will suit us more again.

He was also in charge for the Clare vs Waterford Munster semi. Awarded a soft penalty to Waterford early on which had a huge bearing in the end as Waterford won by 2pts.

mccarthy37

Duiske wrote: »

He was also in charge for the Clare vs Waterford Munster semi. Awarded a soft penalty to Waterford early on which had a huge bearing in the end as Waterford won by 2pts.

He has a soft spot for Galway so be on your best behavior:)

Duiske

mccarthy37 wrote: »

He has a soft spot for Galway so be on your best behavior:)

Yea, he could be reading these boards. :eek: As I omitted to say in the last post, he is a brilliant ref who understands to game inside out, and the Kilkenny players have the utmost respect and admiration for him. And I don't believe a word of all those horrible things Joe Canning said about him.

Diabhal Beag

Time for a bump for the big match

teednab-el

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

An Capall Dubh

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

You ruined the thread about the first game, please go away before you ruin this one as well.

Diabhal Beag

I can tell how great an honour it is to get to a replay just by how bad the bitter Cork guy's posts are.

Hon Galway!

WallyGUFC

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

The hype will get them and Kilkenny will blow them out of the water in the first ten minutes and "murder" Galway like the last day will they? Oh wait... Just get over the fact that Cork are at a low ebb compared to Kilkenny, Galway and Tipp, the real standard bearers this season. Gwan Galway!

Clareman

Attack the post not the poster folks, if you don't like what an individual poster has to say add them to your ignore list.

deisedude

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

<mod note> I told you in the last thread to cut out the anti Galway crap. One more petty post with nothing constructive added and you are banned

AngeGal

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

Cork were certainties to win the football I heard you say previously, fairly sure it wasn't Graham Canty collecting Sam Maguire today.

Regardless of what happens next Sunday, it's safe to say Galway hurling is in the finest condition it has been in for a long time. Some excellent experienced lads with a great group of young players (even big Joe is only 23) Liam will travel west in the coming years. Here's hoping we only have to wait a week though.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Clareman wrote: »

Attack the post not the poster folks, if you don't like what an individual poster has to say add them to your ignore list.

Wise words, the last few pages in the first thread were a disaster. It does lead to the question though why is such an obvious wum still allowed to post? His agenda is clear to all, he constantly post inflammatory comments, mostly about Galway, and there is little substance to whatever he says. A textbook wum if ever there was one.

teednab-el

deisedude wrote: »

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

<mod note> I told you in the last thread to cut out the anti Galway crap. One more petty post with nothing constructive added and you are banned

Nothing negative or anti Galway about that at all. Some posters here mostly Galway ones have a bad hair day when you make a constructive critique about their team in general. Hope im prooved wrong of course and that Galway will win and then we can then say they are not overhyped at all. Time will tell. Galway abu.

teednab-el

WallyGUFC wrote: »

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

The hype will get them and Kilkenny will blow them out of the water in the first ten minutes and "murder" Galway like the last day will they? Oh wait... Just get over the fact that Cork are at a low ebb compared to Kilkenny, Galway and Tipp, the real standard bearers this season. Gwan Galway!

Did you say Tipperary as the real standard bearers? lol

teednab-el

AngeGal wrote: »

teednab-el wrote: »

the hype will get Galway big time next sunday.

Cork were certainties to win the football I heard you say previously, fairly sure it wasn't Graham Canty collecting Sam Maguire today.

arent you sharp. Fair play for noticing it wasnt Canty collecting trophy.

earlytobed

• Galway will be looking for a better show from their forwards in general.
• Kilkenny will be looking for a better show from their forwards in general.

Can Galway achieve another clean sheet? A bit lucky not to concede a goal the last day.

I'm hoping for another humdinger and a Kilkenny win. May be their last chance for a couple of years

dastardly00

THFC wrote: »

Wise words, the last few pages in the first thread were a disaster. It does lead to the question though why is such an obvious wum still allowed to post? His agenda is clear to all, he constantly post inflammatory comments, mostly about Galway, and there is little substance to whatever he says. A textbook wum if ever there was one.

+1,000,000

Clareman

Folks,

A lot of people are annoyed with the direction this thread is going, most feel (myself included) that the last match thread descended into a slagging match between posters, with that in mind I will not tolerate ANY posters attacking each other or attempting to WUM, anyone that I feel that is guilty of either will be banned until after the replay.

IF you feel a poster is winding you up to the extent that you have to reply, use the Report Post, the Ignore Poster or the PM funtion available to you.