2012 St Leger(s)

Nulty · 14-09-2012 8:51pm #1

http://www.sportinglife.com/video/465/8073929/armchair-jockeys-st-leger-doncaster-cup

Lydia's chest is hypnotising...

Colonel Sanders · 14-09-2012 9:07pm

Free Timeform Card for Donny

Hills are even money Camelot tomorrow from 10am. They'll lay 5,000 bets, only to a max of €25 but as they say, edge is edge

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 8:33am

1/2 Camelot

1.44 to lay

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 8:36am

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

1/2 Camelot

1.44 to lay

Pays 2.4% on turnover (assuming 2% commission with Smarkets) for an afternoon's work if anyone wants it

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 8:43am

Had a grand on at 1/2 with Stan James

Laid €1,056.34 back at 1.44 on Smarkets

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 8:57am

lashed another monkey on. Free money is free money

d-gal · 15-09-2012 9:09am

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

lashed another monkey on. Free money is free money

Am I right saying you have made €36 from that?
Not having a pop at you, you must have a lot of disposable income to move it around

tonymantana · 15-09-2012 9:51am

bet 20 on camelot in ladbrokes and if he loses you get you money back
you cant lose win 8 euro , or ur money back

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 10:20am

d-gal wrote: »

Am I right saying you have made €36 from that?
Not having a pop at you, you must have a lot of disposable income to move it around

I'd €1,500 on at 1/2

Laid €1,586 back at 1.44 (liability of less than €700) so total turnover is just under €2,200

Win or lose pays a tad over 2.4%. I've my betting bank in a separate bank a/c for this very purpose so that tying up cash arbing & punting doesn't affect my day to day cash flow.

If you've cash sitting in a bank a/c you'd be doing well to get 2.4% over a year after DIRT

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 10:20am

tonymantana wrote: »

bet 20 on camelot in ladbrokes and if he loses you get you money back
you cant lose win 8 euro , or ur money back

Think money back is in the form of a free bet though

David Williams neglected to say this on ATR this morning

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 10:41am

Guess Camelot's SP

I'm going with 2/7 (I'd actually typed 1/3 but changed it) but his Betfair SP will be in excess of 1.4

UrbanSea · 15-09-2012 10:48am

2/5

BQQ · 15-09-2012 1:48pm

Getting a bit lost in the triple crown buzz is the fact that Ballydoyle are going for a clean sweep of the english classics too.

Pinesky · 15-09-2012 1:53pm

Lemaire interviewed on ATR gave the impression Oxx was very confident of a Hartani win

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 2:27pm

Hopefully Camelot can make history here

Itziger · 15-09-2012 2:33pm

C'mon Camelot. Two Triple Crown horses from Ballydoyle would be something else. Only class act in the race really. Ground is quite good, right?

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 2:36pm

Itziger wrote: »

Ground is quite good, right?

It seems to be quite fast

The time of the first race wasn't far off the course record

Nulty · 15-09-2012 2:39pm

The Portland was a course record

kksaints · 15-09-2012 2:40pm

Surprised Ballydoyle didnt put in a pacemaker.Have Thought Worthy done each way but want Camelot to win.

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 2:41pm

2/5 Camelot

1.5 on the machine, the usual nonsense

TheMilkyPirate · 15-09-2012 2:49pm

That's why triple crown winners are so rare.

Howjoe1 · 15-09-2012 2:49pm

he was closing every stride. i think young Joseph got caught out

Shane732 · 15-09-2012 2:50pm

Ohhhh there's going to be lots of JOB bashing.....

*Gets popcorn*

Nulty · 15-09-2012 2:51pm

The horse could have won.

Hulk Hands · 15-09-2012 2:51pm

I hate the usual crap about criticising the young jockey, but my god he doesn't help himself sometimes

mixed up · 15-09-2012 2:51pm

I think joseph o'brien cost camelot the race.

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 2:52pm

Needed a run when Encke went for home, was checked slightly and could have made the difference

mixed up · 15-09-2012 2:52pm

Nulty wrote: »

The horse should have won.

FYP

Nulty · 15-09-2012 2:52pm

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Ken. · 15-09-2012 2:52pm

That man should be riding in donkey derbies. If i was his auld fella i'd horse whip him. Useless. I had no money on the race.

hucklebuck · 15-09-2012 2:53pm

Very poor ride on Camelot, he took far too long to get him out. Not sure why he rode him up the inside when he could have angled him out as they swung in.

Never got going either though, very disappointing.

MoscowFlyer · 15-09-2012 2:53pm

He tried to get up the inside but there was no gap, had to hold back and wait for another gap on the outside. Cost him a decent bit of ground and Barzelona capitalized as any good jockey should. He got the jump and the distance was too big for Camelot to close down.

Commentators heads are up their asses as usual

Itziger · 15-09-2012 2:54pm

I'd agree with Francome. The horse wasn't travelling that easy but that Joseph kid is a bit too cocky for me.

Shane732 · 15-09-2012 2:57pm

Itziger wrote: »

I'd agree with Francome. The horse wasn't travelling that easy but that Joseph kid is a bit too cocky for me.

Going up the inside cost him. Bazarlona got the gap first and made it work.

Joseph thought he'd run all over everything else in the race.

Howjoe1 · 15-09-2012 2:57pm

Itziger wrote: »

I'd agree with Francome. The horse wasn't travelling that easy but that Joseph kid is a bit too cocky for me.

To be fair, I don't think he is cocky at all. he looked gutted after the race. The horse didn't travel as smooth as previous but he did get checked up a couple of times and maybe a better position would have got him home by a nose.

billy87 · 15-09-2012 2:57pm

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

Nulty · 15-09-2012 2:58pm

It's pretty clear what happened there, I'm not going to stick the knife in.

Nulty · 15-09-2012 2:59pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

Wow.....not good enough?

MoscowFlyer · 15-09-2012 3:00pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

I doubt many of us had money on a 2/5 shot so hardly talking out of our pockets.

billy87 · 15-09-2012 3:00pm

Nulty wrote: »

Wow.....not good enough?

On the day no! he had so much time to pick up and just didnt. say it was a poor ride all you want the winner deserved it today

3ndahalfof6 · 15-09-2012 3:01pm

losing momentum due to the slight check and having to pull out to the middle of the track,

I still dont think he would of won, even if he never got into trouble, the turn of foot was not there.

Shane732 · 15-09-2012 3:01pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

Didn't have a cent on him.

Colonel Sanders · 15-09-2012 3:02pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets!

can't imagine too many people on here were punting a 1/2 shot tbh (arbers aside)

hucklebuck · 15-09-2012 3:03pm

Aidan seemed very rattled there, not sure if he is fuming at Joseph, he kept putting the blame at his own door.

hucklebuck · 15-09-2012 3:05pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

Never back anything that short, he didn't pick up like he should have but even at that if he was close enough he visually has a quicker cruising speed than Encke.

I feel for Barzalona, the silence is unreal even when he collected the trophy.

Nulty · 15-09-2012 3:06pm

billy87 wrote: »

On the day no! he had so much time to pick up and just didnt. say it was a poor ride all you want the winner deserved it today

There's a big difference between taking credit away from the winner and suggesting that the second horse wasn't good enough.

Hawk Wing 2 · 15-09-2012 3:07pm

he lost his stride trying to get out and it took him untill the last furlong to pick up again, bad ride from Joseph

Howjoe1 · 15-09-2012 3:07pm

hucklebuck wrote: »

Aidan seemed very rattled there, not sure if he is fuming at Joseph, he kept putting the blame at his own door.

I thought all the answers he gave were steering the blame away from the jockey. But what father would want to put the boot into their own son.

ps ..how many times did he say "listen" ?

hucklebuck · 15-09-2012 3:08pm

Francome going on about Camelot always travelling, I thought his goose was cooked in the Derby as they were swinging down the hill and look what happened

TheMilkyPirate · 15-09-2012 3:09pm

Howjoe1 wrote: »

I thought all the answers he gave were steering the blame away from the jockey. But what father would want to put the boot into their own son.

ps ..how many times did he say "listen" ?

He's always at it, Makes a great drinking game

Nulty · 15-09-2012 3:09pm

billy87 wrote: »

you are all talking through your pockets! the horse didnt pick up. wasnt good enough on the day. overrated horse anyway had beat nothing.

If by our pockets you mean the investment of our time, effort and love of the sport well then yes we are talking from our pocket. Everyone who loves horse racing had an investment in this horse in this race and while that is true it's easy for you to say that such an investment is clouding our judgement when actually it's just because we disagree with you.

2012 St Leger(s)

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