Alien life could be found within 40 years - really?

Duggys Housemate

I hope the aliens like a beer.

SusieBlue

I think its a bit naive to think that we are the only form of life in the universe. I definitely think there are other life forms out there.

Did one of the men that landed on the moon not claim that NASA has been doing autopsies on aliens for years, and have been keeping it under wraps? Pretty sure I read that somewhere.

I think its just a case of whether our technology and science finds other life forms before other life forms find us. I doubt it'll be within my own lifetime but I'd bet money that it'll one day happen.

Duiske

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i think its a load of bollox. if they were there we would have found them by now

There is no way we could have found them. Even now the only evidence we have of planets outside our solar system is by observing the gravitational wobble they cause in the sun they orbit. Over 800 of these planets have been "found", but none have actually been seen, so its possible there is life of some description on at least some of them.

zenno

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

I hope the aliens like a beer.

That is not the question, I hope they have beer to share with me, personally and i can converse with them all about the purity of alcohol, i'll call any extraterrestrial a god if they have beer, or even better a bottle of captain morgans spiced rum with cola

zenno

WhiteRoses wrote: »

I think its a bit naive to think that we are the only form of life in the universe. I definitely think there are other life forms out there.

Did one of the men that landed on the moon not claim that NASA has been doing autopsies on aliens for years, and have been keeping it under wraps? Pretty sure I read that somewhere.

I think its just a case of whether our technology and science finds other life forms before other life forms find us. I doubt it'll be within my own lifetime but I'd bet money that it'll one day happen.

You could assume that if a more technologically advanced life-form say even 1,000 years more advanced than us could have craft of which would be completely invisible to us and our technology. If there are extraterrestrials visiting this planet then we can be sure they use stealth or dimensional invisibility means in which could be used the way an electron can disappear and reappear or be in two places at once and phase in/out of our reality and we would never even know they were there.

opinion guy

eth0 wrote: »

Thinly veiled 'I have hounds' post

They're on to us. Release the flying monkeys that shoot bees from their mouths.....

Rosy Posy

I thought the most interesting part of this article was in the final paragraphs

The respected SETI Institute in California will be forced to curtail radio telescope operations, which search space for signals from other worlds, unless it can plug a multi-million dollar funding gap.

Find it slightly ridiculous that the yanks are willing to spend millions of dollars on searching the universe for aliens but are rioting at the suggestion of universal health care.

Chuck Stone

May 8th, 2087, at 9:14am GMT.

That's my prediction.

Seriously though, the only consistency long range predictions achieve is being wrong.

zenno

Rosy Posy wrote: »

I thought the most interesting part of this article was in the final paragraphs



Find it slightly ridiculous that the yanks are willing to spend millions of dollars on searching the universe for aliens but are rioting at the suggestion of universal health care.

Well strangely enough SETI are a waste of everyone's time and money because they are looking on only a handful of predictive frequencies which brings me back to my previous comment on why do people and SETI think that other intelligences would be using the same technology that we use ? it seems mind-boggling that an advanced extraterrestrial civilization out there would be using the same transmission frequencies that we do, it's just non intelligent in relation to SETI's part.

Hang on tony, i have picked up a transmission on 1,445.000mhz WOW! it must be the communication database structure of an alien civilization, i don't think so.

The whole damn structure of SETI's search for extraterrestrial signals is seriously flawed and any respectable scientist would say the same. Who says and makes the call that extraterrestrials would be using anything like our old-fart technology radio-waves.

The radio spectrum is vast but seti want to just look on a tiny tiny tiny part of it thinking they will find gold, waste of money. Let the more advanced ones out there come to us as we have being transmitting radio and tv uhf transmissions since the tv was invented, those signals from day one have travelled far. they will pick our garbage up if they are out there but would you visit a primitive civilization after decoding our insane transmissions ? neither would i, next planet please.

PirateShampoo

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i think its a load of bollox. if they were there we would have found them by now

It's not Star Trek. We haven't visited 1 single world our selves. We have sent a robot to Mars.

We haven't even left our solar system.

zenno

PirateShampoo wrote: »

It's not Star Trek. We haven't visited 1 single world our selves. We have sent a robot to Mars.

We haven't even left our solar system.

We are type civilization 0

A type 1 civilization would not even be in our realm or dimension.

Cú Giobach

PirateShampoo wrote: »

It's not Star Trek. We haven't visited 1 single world our selves. We have sent a robot to Mars.

We haven't even left our solar system.

Well considering we only learned to fly just over 100 years ago, have sent probes out to every planet in the solar system and set foot on the Moon, not bad going for an ape really.

Personally I feel we will be finding traces of microbial life on Mars pretty sooner than 40 years.

Colmustard

According to the Google Doodle Star trek is 46 years old, I'm surprised there isn't a national holiday or some sort of yearly celebration, maybe with-in 40 years.

It will be life Jim but not as we know it.

I always like the religious versions of alien life, some sort of a super evolved energy based beings which have nothing better to be doing than to hint at their existance through some self obsessed species of destructive mammals selfish wishes on a tiny peice of rock floating on the fringes of nowhere in a vast universe. Gods, demons, angles, virgin marys and aliens all seem to be super advanced with the same personalities and body structure of us apes.

It must be the way Universal evolution works, Nah, I challenge their views of Alien life.

dsmythy

A great bunch of lads.

Ghost Buster

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i think its a load of bollox. if they were there we would have found them by now

Seeing as we have only sent a man to the moon which in terms of manned space exploration is the equivalent of getting off the sofa and looking out the window how do you figure this?
I know we have sent out probes and have Hubble but again considering the sheer size of the universe and the time it takes light to get to us i think yiou are being a incy bincy bit presumptious.

Instead of placing bets to see when they get here, we should instead be placing bets on which nation will be the first to shoot them.

Ficheall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPl10L40pBM

almighty1

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i think its a load of bollox. if they were there we would have found them by now

I really hope you are joking. There are thought to be over 200 billion stars in our Milky Way Galaxy and there are estimates of over 500 billion galaxies in the known Universe. This would give us 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in our Universe. From what we have discovered so far, each star system seems to have its own solar system. This would yield more than 1 planet for each solar system. Therefore one could assume that there are more planets in our galaxy that there are stars.

Considering we have only landed an exploratory device on 1 other planet then that leaves us 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 to find life.....kind of blows your theory other of the water into perhaps another universe

TheIrishGrover

I firmly believe so. I think the idea of there NOT being any other life out there is science fiction. I mean, I don't think there's going to be any UFOs landing on the white house lawn but I do believe there will be conclusive proof of some form of life on other planets. Be it microscopic bacteria on Mars or the discovery of organically produced gasses in extra-solar planets. I would be perfectly happy with this and would not conciser it a let down in any way. If one planet about a very average star was not only able to support life but that life was able to discover even the tiniest life on another planet then that would suggest to me that the universe is teeming with live in some form or other. I also don't rule out receiving a signal at some point in the future, again I don't expect "Contact", but some form of obviously artificial signal. However I don't see this happening in my lifetime as the resources behind this kind of search is miniscule. Do I think we'll actually travel to planets outside our solar system? No. Unless there is some mad lead forwards and sideways in our understanding of the universe that turns everything we thought we knew on it's head. Something as radical and bizarre as quantuum mechanics at the turn of the last century.

Duggys Housemate

almighty1 wrote: »

I really hope you are joking. There are thought to be over 200 billion stars in our Milky Way Galaxy and there are estimates of over 500 billion galaxies in the known Universe. This would give us 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in our Universe. From what we have discovered so far, each star system seems to have its own solar system. This would yield more than 1 planet for each solar system. Therefore one could assume that there are more planets in our galaxy that there are stars.

Considering we have only landed an exploratory device on 1 other planet then that leaves us 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 to find life.....kind of blows your theory other of the water into perhaps another universe

I feel fermi's paradox coming on.

nocoverart

I don't think alien life will be found in the next 40 years, but is there intelligent civilizations in the universe? I say DEFINITELY YES!

Duggys Housemate

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I firmly believe so. I think the idea of there NOT being any other life out there is science fiction. I mean, I don't think there's going to be any UFOs landing on the white house lawn but I do believe there will be conclusive proof of some form of life on other planets. Be it microscopic bacteria on Mars or the discovery of organically produced gasses in extra-solar planets. I would be perfectly happy with this and would not conciser it a let down in any way. If one planet about a very average star was not only able to support life but that life was able to discover even the tiniest life on another planet then that would suggest to me that the universe is teeming with live in some form or other. I also don't rule out receiving a signal at some point in the future, again I don't expect "Contact", but some form of obviously artificial signal. However I don't see this happening in my lifetime as the resources behind this kind of search is miniscule. Do I think we'll actually travel to planets outside our solar system? No. Unless there is some mad lead forwards and sideways in our understanding of the universe that turns everything we thought we knew on it's head. Something as radical and bizarre as quantuum mechanics at the turn of the last century.

Bacteria on Mars wont prove anything about the rest of the universe, as the Earth and Mars have been exchanging rock in the billions of years we have co-existed.

karma_

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

Bacteria on Mars wont prove anything about the rest of the universe, as the Earth and Mars have been exchanging rock in the billions of years we have co-existed.

Yes, yes it would.

Duggys Housemate

karma_ wrote: »

Yes, yes it would.

No, it wouldn't.

Duggys Housemate

Well. I suppose if they could prove the microbes they found on Mars originated there, it would mean something. But if not, it doesn't prove anything, as asteroid hits have - particularly in the early part of the existence of the solar system, blasted rocks from here to there, and vice versa.

But they aint found nothing yet.

Mickeroo

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

No, it wouldn't.

It would show that life is possible on a planet very different to earth making it that little bit more probable of finding it else where, so it would. You are right that it would be less remarkable what with a few (thought to be) meteorites from mars showing up here.

Having said that though I think we have a better chance of finding life on Enceledus or Europa than we do on Mars.

There's also been thousands of "goldilocks zone" potentially earth like planets found in the last few years.

Duggys Housemate

Mickeroo wrote: »

It would show that life is possible on a planet very different to earth making it that little bit more probable of finding it else where, so it would. You are right that it would be less remarkable what with a few (thought to be) meteorites from mars showing up here.

Having said that though I think we have a better chance of finding life on Enceledus or Europa than we do on Mars.

There's also been thousands of "goldilocks zone" potentially earth like planets found in the last few years.

No, i mean life on mars could have originated here.

Mickeroo

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

No, i mean life on mars could have originated here.

picked you up wrong there sorry. Would have to be a case of finding a form of microbe thats also found here to prove that conclusively i'd imagine.

Sin City

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

No, i mean life on mars could have originated here.

Or vice versa

Duggys Housemate

Sin City wrote: »

Or vice versa

Or vice versa, but we know life happened here. so the exchange of rocks in the last few billion years is more likely to have brought microbes from here to there, rather than the reverse.

that said, were life on mars found to be original it would defintely mean it was very frequent throughout the universe.