Trading!

helimachoptor

So lads.. what thoughts have you given to trades (if any).

I'm hopeful if i get the team I want, I can make some key trades.

With the cap, trading is going to be very very tactical. The guys on the PFL have simmed seasons and done trades etc and one guy did two trades and at the start of S2 he has no cap space so it's definitely going to cause issues.

I have 3 positions I really want to upgrade at and 2 others i'd be interested in (in the short term) while players progress.

After that I dont see any huge needs and will hopefully aid one of the positions during the draft and possible FA.

So once the draft list comes out.. GM's.. check your PM box!

adrian522

helimachoptor wrote: »

So lads.. what thoughts have you given to trades (if any).

I'm hopeful if i get the team I want, I can make some key trades.

With the cap, trading is going to be very very tactical. The guys on the PFL have simmed seasons and done trades etc and one guy did two trades and at the start of S2 he has no cap space so it's definitely going to cause issues.

I have 3 positions I really want to upgrade at and 2 others i'd be interested in (in the short term) while players progress.

After that I dont see any huge needs and will hopefully aid one of the positions during the draft and possible FA.

So once the draft list comes out.. GM's.. check your PM box!

I'll offer my potential starting QB for your stud Running back (you took the jags right?)

Seriously, if you cut someone you suffer a Cap penalty but if you trade someone away do you free up that Cap space or do you still need to pay the guaranteed money for the rest of the contract?

SantryRed

adrian522 wrote: »

I'll offer my potential starting QB for your stud Running back (you took the jags right?)

Seriously, if you cut someone you suffer a Cap penalty but if you trade someone away do you free up that Cap space or do you still need to pay the guaranteed money for the rest of the contract?

The bonus counts against your cap.

Paully D

Can't see myself doing much trading to be honest.

If I get my first choice (pretty unlikely I'd imagine) I probably won't even do one trade but if I get my second choice (which I kind of hope I do now) I could do with some help at one position in particular so may look to do something there, but that will be about it.

adrian522

OK, so probably little or no trading of your star players unless they are on very cap friendly contracts.

ibmax

this should be called the "hypothetical trading thread"

adrian522

Only hypothetical for one more day..

BigBadRob83

Think the trade-crazy offseason of Madden 12 will be a thing of the past.

Will soon know way too much about NFL contracts and the cap

helimachoptor

adrian522 wrote: »

I'll offer my potential starting QB for your stud Running back (you took the jags right?)

Time will tell :pac::pac:

etloveslsd

helimachoptor wrote: »

Time will tell :pac::pac:

Lies..you can't be the Jags...I'm the Jags

helimachoptor

etloveslsd wrote: »

Lies..you can't be the Jags...I'm the Jags

says who!
Only 2 people know and im not one of them!

HowAreWe

I'd be open to a trade, it looks as if I get my number one or number two team....I need a backup qb....

helimachoptor

HowAreWe wrote: »

I'd be open to a trade, it looks as if I get my number one or number two team....I need a backup qb....

Matt Hasslebeck is yours

HowAreWe

helimachoptor wrote: »

Matt Hasslebeck is yours

hmmm tempting....

helimachoptor

HowAreWe wrote: »

hmmm tempting....

Well lets see who we get...

etloveslsd

helimachoptor wrote: »

says who!
Only 2 people know and im not one of them!

I don't know who you are, but I picked after you, so I know who you aren't....;)

PacFish

Decent chance I'll trade Bradford after I go 0-16 in season 1.

etloveslsd

PacFish wrote: »

Decent chance I'll trade Bradford after I go 0-16 in season 1.

Ea have been very harsh on him making him 77 overall. He played hurt last year.

PacFish

etloveslsd wrote: »

Ea have been very harsh on him making him 77 overall. He played hurt last year.

Yep and he had nothing at WR (until Lloyd came along), a TE who dropped everything thrown at him and no o-line. Throw in McDaniels calling some pretty ridiculous plays and it was a recipe for disaster.

etloveslsd

PacFish wrote: »

Yep and he had nothing at WR (until Lloyd came along), a TE who dropped everything thrown at him and no o-line. Throw in McDaniels calling some pretty ridiculous plays and it was a recipe for disaster.

Only thing is he still has all these problems. At least Smith is gone, but Hunter.. Really???

PADRAIC.M

Any good QB's or TE KNOCKING around

ibmax

PADRAIC.M wrote: »

Any good QB's or TE KNOCKING around

I'll give you a decent QB tomorrow when my team is announced....

madalig12

ibmax wrote: »

I'll give you a decent QB tomorrow when my team is announced....

The browns don't have a decent one

ibmax

madalig12 wrote: »

ibmax wrote: »

I'll give you a decent QB tomorrow when my team is announced....

The browns don't have a decent one

Oh I know who I am and thankfully not the browns... Decent QB is available from right now if any budding Sherlock out there can figure out who it is... Not a toughie!!!

Paully D

ibmax wrote: »

Oh I know who I am and thankfully not the browns... Decent QB is available from right now if any budding Sherlock out there can figure out who it is... Not a toughie!!!

Palmer? :eek:

madalig12

ibmax wrote: »

Oh I know who I am and thankfully not the browns... Decent QB is available from right now if any budding Sherlock out there can figure out who it is... Not a toughie!!!

LUCKy Guess?

ibmax

madalig12 wrote: »

ibmax wrote: »

Oh I know who I am and thankfully not the browns... Decent QB is available from right now if any budding Sherlock out there can figure out who it is... Not a toughie!!!

LUCKy Guess?

No joy but close. They were my second choice but after Santry took the Redskins im guaranteed my first choice. I also have a sneaking suspicion the gentleman who picked immediately after me will be joining me in the same division... Yikes!!!

As for the trade... If you wanna upgrade from Alex Smith, call me. I have needs everywhere

madalig12

ibmax wrote: »

No joy but close. They were my second choice but after Santry took the Redskins im guaranteed my first choice. I also have a sneaking suspicion the gentleman who picked immediately after me will be joining me in the same division... Yikes!!!

Glad I'm not gonna be in that group...
As for the trade... If you wanna upgrade from Alex Smith, call me. I have needs everywhere

I'll see what's on offer sure...gotta be broncos u think you are getting..

adrian522

madalig12 wrote: »

ibmax wrote: »

No joy but close. They were my second choice but after Santry took the Redskins im guaranteed my first choice. I also have a sneaking suspicion the gentleman who picked immediately after me will be joining me in the same division... Yikes!!!

Glad I'm not gonna be in that group...
As for the trade... If you wanna upgrade from Alex Smith, call me. I have needs everywhere

I'll see what's on offer sure...gotta be broncos u think you are getting..

Honestly if you don't like Alex Smith I'd go with kaepernick, he's very quick, fairly accurate and will improve every year.

Paully D

madalig12 wrote: »

I'll see what's on offer sure...gotta be broncos u think you are getting..

If he is the Broncos the AFC West could easily become the most difficult division in it as the Raiders and Chiefs will also have fallen very low down quite possibly to some of the best players. It'd be very surprising to see them fall to 2nd choice on day 4 mind, I thought they'd have had the possibility to even go late on day 2.

helimachoptor

Lads.. Putting this one out there.. Would there be an appetite to turn the salary cap off? I'd prefer it on btw

Paully D

helimachoptor wrote: »

Lads.. Putting this one out there.. Would there be an appetite to turn the salary cap off? I'd prefer it on btw

Nah no way, especially since some people will have picked teams based on their cap, contracts etc.

madalig12

helimachoptor wrote: »

Lads.. Putting this one out there.. Would there be an appetite to turn the salary cap off? I'd prefer it on btw

Some folk might have had their picks influenced by available cap so I'd say it will stay on.

helimachoptor

Agreed, part of the reasoning picked my team was the cap

matthew8

PADRAIC.M wrote: »

Any good QB's or TE KNOCKING around

Greg Olsen.

matthew8

OK Olsen is officially on the block for anyone who wants him. He's rated overall 84 and as a tight end his 87 speed is his biggest asset. I'll be looking for a FS/CB/DT/RT rated around 84 for him.

helimachoptor

What's his catching and jumping stats Matthew? Also what height is he?

Also id suggest everyone plays with their teams before agreeing to any trades..

ibmax

helimachoptor wrote: »

What's his catching and jumping stats Matthew? Also what height is he?

Also id suggest everyone plays with their teams before agreeing to any trades..

Anyone made a suggestion yet on how we're gonna treat free agency on day1?

helimachoptor

Last person on draft offers first, all FAs in year one will only accept a 1 year deal I think, but don't quote me on this Ben or Raoul can confirm

matthew8

helimachoptor wrote: »

What's his catching and jumping stats Matthew? Also what height is he?

Also id suggest everyone plays with their teams before agreeing to any trades..

6 foot 5, 87 catching, 89 jumping.

ibmax

helimachoptor wrote: »

Last person on draft offers first, all FAs in year one will only accept a 1 year deal I think, but don't quote me on this Ben or Raoul can confirm

Browns can load up so

helimachoptor

Titans will be doing some trading and FA acquisition..

ibmax

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans will be doing some trading and FA acquisition..

I didn't think you were the titans

helimachoptor

I may not be, I'm jut assuming tbh ( and with the teams that are gone its more and more a big assumption tbh!)

The_Gatsby

Jason Snelling is gonna be on the block for the Falcons. He could be a good starter for a lot of teams. With Jaquizz rodgers and Burner Turner I'm pretty good at RB Looking for some oline or Safety

Colts

Due to my Cap situation I'll definnitely be in the market, my roster has some big holes to fill!

If anyone is interested in any of my players drop me a pm and we'll talk!

BigBadRob83

For anyone interested in trading, can use this spreadsheet as a rough guide (very rough as it was released August 24th), which has all the player ratings.
There have been adjustments since then, but easiest thing we have until CCM is setup, and even then will be tough to extract all the data from it as the website is very limited at the moment.
Hoping for improvement, or maybe LM will get their act together.


As for trading, there are some things I definitely know for the Cowboys:

QB Kyle Orton is available, for someone stuck with a bad situation.

I am looking for interior O-Line help (C, LG, RG in that order)

helimachoptor

BigBadRob83 wrote: »

QB Kyle Orton is available, for someone stuck with a bad situation.

True words!!!


I think we can stick up trade blocks...

HeartOfTheCity

Wanted : QB, WRs and CBs - kind regards, Jeff Ireland aka Me.

HeartOfTheCity

HeartOfTheCity wrote: »

Wanted : QB, WRs and CBs - kind regards, Jeff Ireland aka Me.

How good a cb are u looking for and what players are you willing to give

Berty44

Another word of caution on trading. You need also to take into account the salary structure of the guys you are trading.

The bonus has to be paid by the old team ( cap penalised ) but the contract has to be paid by the new team. You have some very average players on insane annual contracts so know what you are going to have to pay the guy.

Example I have a Centre say rated 82 but who is being paid 6 million a year base salary. Someone else has one rated 74 being paid 1mill base salary. They might get excited at me offering to trade one for another but you got to ask is the 8 points better player worth 5 million per year??

Also I have a CB rated 90 being paid 5million but with 1 year left on his contract. Someone else has a CB rated 80 with 3 years left being paid 1 million. If they are traded the 90 rated player will need his contracted renegotiated....and he might be looking for 8million a year. Is that worth it?

And even more important when you go to renegotiate you only have one chance. When you make an offer the player can accept it, maybe come back and ask for more or say no. If he says no you cannot make another offer and he will tell you he is off to FA. You do have a chance to franchise tag him at the end of the season but that will be for a massive 1 year salary. If you have to get him in FA you will almost certainly pay more than what he was asking for originally.