Is Aimr Khan for real!!!

FANTAPANTS

Amir Khan says he will return to the ring on December 15, but it won't be against Joan Guzman for the WBA light-welterweight title.
However, Khan has quashed the speculation, saying Guzman was 'below his level' despite being an undefeated two-weight champion.

"I want someone who is a bit more credible than him," Khan - who has lost his last two fights - told the Manchester Evening News website. I think Khan is away with the fairys :D

Danye

FANTAPANTS wrote: »

Amir Khan says he will return to the ring on December 15, but it won't be against Joan Guzman for the WBA light-welterweight title.
However, Khan has quashed the speculation, saying Guzman was 'below his level' despite being an undefeated two-weight champion.

"I want someone who is a bit more credible than him," Khan - who has lost his last two fights - told the Manchester Evening News website. I think Khan is away with the fairys :D

I have always suspected he was away with the fairies but after reading this

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/8053558/Amir-Khan-has-quashed-rumours-of-a-December-return-against-Joan-Guzman

I'm 100% certain he is.

Imagine... If only Manny had a defence :rolleyes:

sxt

I wonder are the people in his camp mostly to blame for rail roading these thoughts into his head? The pressure on him and his investors most be immense

JacksonHeightsOwn

i always thought he was a massive idiot.

now besides his lack of grey matter, im beginning to think he's punch drunk to.

for such a young fighter he's taken some heavy shots throughout his career. Im not joking, i worry for the fella.

boxer.fan

Guzman is all wrong for Khan right now. He knows this, but hes not going to come out and say it.

Fibrescale

You would think he hadn't lost his last two fights with comments like that.

colly10

Blaming Freddy Roach for not being the best fighter in the world, laughable. It would help if he actually listened to his coach and stuck to the plan rather than doing his own thing and trying to show to everyone he has one of the best chins in the business.
He talks himself up then gets taken down a few pegs too often, he needs to learn to respect his opposition

walshb

He can respect or disrespect the opposition all he likes. Fact is that his punch resistance just isn't up to taking a heavy shot. I was hoping that it had really improved, and it did show signs, but he is back to square one again. If he is good enough physically respect isn't going to determine his results.

JacksonHeightsOwn

walshb wrote: »

He can respect or disrespect the opposition all he likes. Fact is that his punch resistance just isn't up to taking a heavy shot. I was hoping that it had really improved, and it did show signs, but he is back to square one again. If he is good enough physically respect isn't going to determine his results.

having a good chin is like having legitimate one punch knockout power,

you either have it, or you dont.

Khan has decent strength, but not one punch knockout power.

but khan has a terrible chin. One of the worst ive seen for such a high profile fighter. Particularly for the smaller weight classes

Danye

boxer.fan wrote: »

Guzman is all wrong for Khan right now. He knows this, but hes not going to come out and say it.

Completely agree. It will be interesting to see who his opponent will be and see how exactly he is more "credible" than Guzman.

Prince Nassem part deux.

FANTAPANTS

I think Khan is away with the lads on BUTTON MOON taking a few "jiggers". He was smashed in last fight and he still thinks he can mix it with the best pound for pound in the world. He will end up fighting some "GOON" who Khan explained is world class that we have never heard off. Hang up them gloves Khan before you are really hurt mate:mad:

corny

Whats the problem? Boxer talks absolute ****e to the media to sell themselves. Theres a shocker. He does a good job anyway. Every month there's a thread created on these boards keeping his name in the spotlight; no such thing as bad publicity and all that.

Win, lose or draw i'm all for Khan. He gives a good show in the ring and some of his fights and knock downs (him being knocked out) are the stuff of legend.

barney4001

looks like he is punchy

Danye

corny wrote: »

Whats the problem? Boxer talks absolute ****e to the media to sell themselves. Theres a shocker. He does a good job anyway. Every month there's a thread created on these boards keeping his name in the spotlight; no such thing as bad publicity and all that.

Win, lose or draw i'm all for Khan. He gives a good show in the ring and some of his fights and knock downs (him being knocked out) are the stuff of legend.

Yea in the run up to a bout or whatever they might or after having success in the ring, but not a whole lot of boxers come out after getting beaten or knocked out and still talk ****e to the media to sell themselves.

Blaming your trainer also stinks and lacks class and shows Kahn up IMO.

corny

Danye wrote: »

Yea in the run up to a bout or whatever they might or after having success in the ring, but not a whole lot of boxers come out after getting beaten or knocked out and still talk ****e to the media to sell themselves.

Blaming your trainer also stinks and lacks class and shows Kahn up IMO.

That might all be true but what i'll stick to is there's method in what he does. He might have zero class and he may be an idiot but he says this **** for a reason.

Danye

corny wrote: »

That might all be true but what i'll stick to is there's method in what he does. He might have zero class and he may be an idiot but he says this **** for a reason.

Do you really think there is a method to it? What do you think that method is?

I don't think there is any method to it other than him being a complete idiot really.

corny

Danye wrote: »

Do you really think there is a method to it? What do you think that method is?

I've already said i do. You put it in bold when you responded the first time.

Danye wrote: »

I don't think there is any method to it other than him being a complete idiot really.

Then we disagree. No harm done.;)

Danye

corny wrote: »

I've already said i do. You put it in bold when you responded the first time.



Then we disagree. No harm done.;)

Haha so I did. Apologies.

We will agree to disagree

themandan6611

spilt with roach just announced, hope he gets someone who bursts his fantasy of being a top P4P contender

Daroxtar

http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2012/0915/337682-khan-and-trainer-roach-part-ways/
So who does he go with now? Maybe his dad and brothers can train him:rolleyes:

Underground

Virgil Hunter is apparently the man Khan wants as his new trainer.

Makes 0 sense, he was annoyed at playing second string to Manny under Roach, he'll definitely be playing second string to Ward under Hunter.

But then he's not exactly a genius oul khan is he?

gaybeer

Underground wrote: »

Virgil Hunter is apparently the man Khan wants as his new trainer.

Makes 0 sense, he was annoyed at playing second string to Manny under Roach, he'll definitely be playing second string to Ward under Hunter.

But then he's not exactly a genius oul khan is he?

I think Khans big problem paying second fiddle to Manny was all the travelling that caused. I don't see Hunter training Ward would be near as much of an issue. Even if their camps over lapped for some fights it should be much easier to manage one on one time.

weemcd

Underground wrote: »

But then he's not exactly a genius oul khan is he?

Exactly. Quite alot of what he said was very disrespectful to Roach also, he showed marked improvment under him, and would have probably improved further had he listened. I get the feeling Khan doesn't listen very much to anyone but himself talk.

He was trying to draw parallels with himself and Manny's last few fights, slighting the defensive training they had. Manny is not getting KO'd against massive underdogs Amir you tit.

Word also has it he wanted Roach to train him exclusively :rolleyes:

Henno30

Khan's biggest problem is that he's a wanker.

clubwelly

I'm the exact same thoughts as some of yous that he just needs to listen to Hunter and it'll be an improvement. Although he'll be second fiddle to Ward the Hunter stable isn't as big as others.

I think alot of boxers have trouble listening to their coaches and listen to friends/family. Chavez jnr was doing the exact same at the weekend

boxer.fan

Its probably not the worst move he could make. Shame he couldn't just move on without speaking about Roach. It keeps him in the U.S. as well, which is important for the bigger fights. Some good fights available to him now to make his way back. I would like to see him have a rematch with Maidana, who has also opted for a new coach recently. He looked well impressive at the weekend.

I really thought he would have opted for someone like Adam Booth in the U.K.

barney4001

Daroxtar wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2012/0915/337682-khan-and-trainer-roach-part-ways/
So who does he go with now? Maybe his dad and brothers can train him:rolleyes:

Nazeem Hamed tried that and look where it got him

rebelomar

weemcd wrote: »

Exactly. Quite alot of what he said was very disrespectful to Roach also, he showed marked improvment under him, and would have probably improved further had he listened. I get the feeling Khan doesn't listen very much to anyone but himself talk.

He was trying to draw parallels with himself and Manny's last few fights, slighting the defensive training they had. Manny is not getting KO'd against massive underdogs Amir you tit.

Word also has it he wanted Roach to train him exclusively :rolleyes:

Completely agree. His biggest issue was that he didnt listen to Roach mid fight. Just did his own thing and got beat by Peterson and ko'd by Garcia.

However much he improves his defense though he is still going to take a massive punch or two at sometime in future fights

barney4001

Khans worst problem is an inflated ego

walshb

rebelomar wrote: »

Completely agree. His biggest issue was that he didnt listen to Roach mid fight. Just did his own thing and got beat by Peterson and ko'd by Garcia.

However much he improves his defense though he is still going to take a massive punch or two at sometime in future fights

This is just it. You can be the best listener in the world, but unless your D is razor tight then you will ship a few clean shots in any fight.

Khan was boxing failry well vs. Garcia. He just got caught clean, and his chin and legs couldn't save him. He then traded a fair bit in the following rd and got stopped. But, he did as well try his best to run, hide, and fight back. It didn't work. He doesn't have the innate skills to slip and duck and dive and slide out of trouble. No amount of listening will change this. It's a mechanical/physical issue!

corny

I'd like to know how anyone is privy to 1. what Roach told Khan and 2. what Khan did and didn't listen to.

kryogen

Roach has said he didnt follow game plan
Khan has said he didnt follow gameplan and instruction.

walshb

kryogen wrote: »

Roach has said he didnt follow game plan
Khan has said he didnt follow gameplan and instruction.

What was the gameplan, don't get hit?:)

Pretty tough plan!

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

What was the gameplan, don't get hit?:)

Pretty tough plan!

keep range and use your main skills, skill and speed-brawling guarantee's you get hit.

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

keep range and use your main skills, skill and speed-brawling guarantee's you get hit.

But with Khan unfortunately the chin isn't there, nor is the innate pro skills. He was caught with a rangey left hook to begin with. He has to engage as well, leaving the opening for a counter.

corny

cowzerp wrote: »

keep range and use your main skills, skill and speed-brawling guarantee's you get hit.

He didn't brawl. He stepped in to throw his combinations (something he definitely excels at) and was caught with a swinging left hook. Garcia or anyone willing to take one to throw one will always present a problem for Khan.

You can't micro manage, to the degree needed with Khan, all the nuances of what goes on in the ring anyway. He was caught and unfortunately for him a different trainer isn't going to make a big difference. It'll happen again and nothing he does to prepare will change that.

Dick phelan

I don't think it really matters who khan gets to train him, fact is the lad will never be near the best p4p in the world. Yes he has some good skills very fast hands ect but he just aint right for the pro game, no chin and easily gets draw into a brawl with guys with a lot less natural ability then himself, i guarentee khan will get knocked out yet again. The lad should retire and move onto something else cause he aint ever going to be good enough for the top level

Henno30

Khan suggesting in an interview yesterday that Roach's Parkinsons was part of the reason he left him. He doesn't do classy.

TheNap

Henno30 wrote: »

Khan suggesting in an interview yesterday that Roach's Parkinsons was part of the reason he left him. He doesn't do classy.

Disgraceful. He is a glorified amateur. His fights will continue to sell though as he is a liability in the ring. Ortiz is the same

willmunny1990

TheNap wrote: »

Disgraceful. He is a glorified amateur. His fights will continue to sell though as he is a liability in the ring. Ortiz is the same

I'll tune in anyway as there's always a good chance you'll see him knocked out.

twistedbrains

khan is a scum bag after coming out with with that sh~t bout freddie he is the best around or prob ever

gene_tunney

twistedbrains wrote: »

khan is a scum bag after coming out with with that sh~t bout freddie he is the best around or prob ever

Yeah, he really equipped Khan and Pacquiao with excellent defensive skills....