buying house in Moyglare hall, Maynooth, Kildare

V456

Hi,

I am thinking to buy a 3 bed semi detached home in Moyglare hall, Maynooth, Kildare.

Can anyone tell about the place and recent price changes, commuting to city issues etc...

Thanks

Zaph

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Moonbeam

Driving,bus or train?
I do not live in Moyglare but do live in Maynooth:)

donspeekinglesh

I've lived in Moyglare Hall for the past 4 years. Love it here, but it's a little far from the town, generally end up driving down.

There are a few threads on the estate already, which should cover most of your questions, bury it you've anything else I'm happy to try and answer.

Don't know anything about prices, other than it's a lot less than we paid!

L1011

Houses there are painfully over-valued by vendors/agents (as well as the developer for the remaining new ones); if you can get one for a reasonable price for the rest of the town go for it; but the asking prices in general need high 5 to 6 figures knocked off each and every one.

Its very far out. Until the second entrance is built (when the estate gets nearer to being finished - very long time away) you need to go three sides of a square to get out. The secondary schools are moving up adjacent to it which may be useful if you've kids of that age and its definitely walking distance to the boys national school - girls, gaelscoil and ETNS maybe not walking distance for modern kids...

The bus route (67) that is meant to be extended out there has had its extension long-fingered but I'm certain it'll be there before the new schools open. The train station is a fairly long walk away and parking isn't plentiful or free there.

Houses seem fine from when I've been in them, developer still seems to be in business which reduces the chance of the remaining unsold/unfinished bit to the back going ghost on you. Last time I was down there the unfinished bit was quite small - they hadn't started work on the bulk of the remaining houses at all - and wasn't obtrusive.

V456

Thanks for the reply.

Asking price for new type large bed is 255k but rate is negotiable and they might reduce 5 to 7%

Is it reasonable?

Cheers

Moonbeam

It would be a nightmare commuting via train to the city centre from there.
That sounds a little expensive to me for Moyglare ,there were issues with some of the builds there so maybe no harm talking to neigbours or finding people online who bought in the same phase,find out which builder built them.
Have you looked at the new houses on the Dunboyne road too?

donspeekinglesh

When I was commuting via train I'd either drive to the station or be dropped.

L1011

I would want significantly more than 5-7% off that price.

3 beds in other similar parts of the town, second hand, sell for about 165k by the looks of things at the moment. Weigh up the value of a new house vs. the inconvenient location to figure out how much more than that they're worth.

Forest Demon

I have been looking in Kildare recently also and that is overpriced. For example I seen a lovely 5 bed in Donadea for 199k. Just outside Maynooth and is a lovely area.

Its a real bargain.

http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=656378

SQ2

Forest Demon wrote: »

I have been looking in Kildare recently also and that is overpriced. For example I seen a lovely 5 bed in Donadea for 199k. Just outside Maynooth and is a lovely area.

Its a real bargain.

http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=656378

Not sure if I'd call Timahoe "just outside" Maynooth, just outside Prosperous maybe. Nice quiet area though

Moonbeam

Forest Demon wrote: »

I have been looking in Kildare recently also and that is overpriced. For example I seen a lovely 5 bed in Donadea for 199k. Just outside Maynooth and is a lovely area.

Its a real bargain.

http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=656378

It depends on how you define a bargain...
It is not as handy for everything as Maynooth is.

TonyStark

Putting all this into context looking at http://www.propertypriceregister.ie/ it's interesting on 2 points.

1. The volume of sales, a lot less houses in the estate changed hands in the past 3 years than one may think/been led to believe.

2. No one seems to have paid the asking price, even allowing for the exclusion of VAT.


As suspected there was an explosion in sales in Castlepark.

Kieran6

TonyStark wrote: »

Putting all this into context looking at http://www.propertypriceregister.ie/ it's interesting on 2 points.

1. The volume of sales, a lot less houses in the estate changed hands in the past 3 years than one may think/been led to believe.

2. No one seems to have paid the asking price, even allowing for the exclusion of VAT.


As suspected there was an explosion in sales in Castlepark.

Seems like that's right. With vat included they sold for less than 230000 in moyglare with an asking price of 255000. Better value for money than castlepark which seem to be going for close to the asking price.

grind gremlin

Just wondering if you decided to buy in Moyglare Hall. Considering buying there myself but I'd love some feedback from people who are already living in the area.
Is there anything we would need to look out for / be aware of with these houses?

angeldelight

grind gremlin wrote: »

Just wondering if you decided to buy in Moyglare Hall. Considering buying there myself but I'd love some feedback from people who are already living in the area.
Is there anything we would need to look out for / be aware of with these houses?

The estate was built by two different builders - there were pyrite issues affecting some houses in a particular phase built by one of the builders and remedial works carried out. I'm not sure of which houses though unfortunately

grind gremlin

angeldelight wrote: »

The estate was built by two different builders - there were pyrite issues affecting some houses in a particular phase built by one of the builders and remedial works carried out. I'm not sure of which houses though unfortunately

Thanks for that, good to know!

Would love to hear from anyone else who has bought there.

evolving_doors

secondary school in maynooth has a good reputation as there is a family I know just moving to maynooth specifically for the school..in terms of future prices moyglare will probably do well enough for this reason alone..

Have friends there too and are happy enough but say there is a variety of house types/sizes and specs (as some tenants decided in their own finish) so prices aren't all the same as you'd expect...

grind gremlin

Thank you both very much! I am already living in Maynooth, been renting for years so I finally feel its time to buy.

Any idea when the proposed walkway to the town will be constructed?

Councillor

For health & Safety reasons the footpath won't be built until the houses are built all the way to the Eircom building. And that probably happen for 3 or 4 years depending on the market.

angeldelight

Councillor wrote: »

I thought that there was only one builder at Moyglare Hall i.e Mycete.

Never heard of the pyrite problem there.

Cllr. John McGinley

http://www.realestatealliance.ie/includes/html/brochure_newhome_print.php?id=161

Developer
Mycete Homes Ltd. & North City Builders Ltd.

Friends of mine were on the verge of buying in Moyglare Hall when it so happened that the surveyor for the purchaser of their house when doing the structural survey mentioned in passing that there were pyrite issues in Moyglare Hall - Coonans were aware of it when asked

Jammie01

Thinking about having a look at the houses in Moyglare Hall and have a few questions.

Does anyone know which house types are being sold now and whereabouts in the estate they are situated? We'd be interested in the five bed semi or detached only.

How big are the gardens in this estate? We were originally looking at the semis in castlepark but were put off due to the tiny gardens. Would hope that moyglare hall wouldn't be the same

Are these houses already built or being sold from plans? If from plans how long from when the contracts were singed do they take to build?

Is there anymore news on the walkway or the timeframe for finishing this estate? We would ideally like a house near the back of the estate but how long would we be waiting until we could walk to the village from that end rather than all the way to the entrance and back down the moyglare road?

Thanks

Jammie01

Oh and does anyone know which builders are doing this next phase?

L1011

Mycete put in the planning permission extension request anyway

donspeekinglesh

There's only a few 5 beds left now - a few more of the semis got sold signs in the past week.
The houses being sold from plan are 3 bed.
None have big gardens, those are long sold.

Jammie01

Thanks donspeekenglish, do you know what part of the estate the five beds are left in? Is it the green? Was looking at the original site plans on the Kildare co co planning website and it seems there will be more five beds built in the future, wonder how long it'd all take though

donspeekinglesh

Semis on the Green, and detached on the Park. Maybe three of each.

wonderwoman43

Hi there

Does anyone know what North City Builders are like to deal with? Would be interested to hear from anyone who has purchased a house from them in Moyglare Hall? Thanks

Rainbow bright

Hi all

I am buying a house in Moyglare Hall and have been advised of
Pyrite in the area.

We are trying to get confirmation that the house is
Pyrite free and have been advised the only way to get that
Confirmation is to carry out a pyrite test.

I would appreciate any feed back on this.

Thanks

dib

My wife and myself are in the process of buying a terraced house in Moyglare. We've had a survey completed, which was very thorough, and there were a few small issues that needed to be fixed but nothing worrying.

We've asked our solicitor to advise the vendor that we won't be closing the sale until they provide us with a cert that the property is pyrite free.

In my opinion, if a house is being sold in an area that has had pyrite problems it should be the vendor's responsibility to prove the property is free of pyrite.

Of course I am aware that many vendors won't see it this way but if you don't ask, you won't get. I'm sure some vendors will be happy to have a test done if it will enable them to sell in a more timely fashion.

angeldelight

The people who were selling the house to friends of mine in Moyglare did offer to get a pyrite test done, on the understanding that if it came back ok they would sign everything else pretty immediately.

Rainbow bright

dib wrote: »

My wife and myself are in the process of buying a terraced house in Moyglare. We've had a survey completed, which was very thorough, and there were a few small issues that needed to be fixed but nothing worrying.

We've asked our solicitor to advise the vendor that we won't be closing the sale until they provide us with a cert that the property is pyrite free.

In my opinion, if a house is being sold in an area that has had pyrite problems it should be the vendor's responsibility to prove the property is free of pyrite.

Of course I am aware that many vendors won't see it this way but if you don't ask, you won't get. I'm sure some vendors will be happy to have a test done if it will enable them to sell in a more timely fashion.

Hi Dib

Good luck getting a cert to prove the property is pyrite free I have gone sale agreed on one of the 5beds long before Christmas and have had an uphill battle trying to get this information. All I have received is a letter from the architect saying that there is no evidence of pyrite at present. When I requested the next time for confirmation I got told in November (after a month of chasing) I would get confirmation from the quarry to confirm the materials used were ok. We are now 5months since going sale agreed and still no further on.

Would you keep me posted on your progress? I am extremely feed with with the process at this point.

Thanks

dib

Will do mate. I suspect it'll be a tough one but I'm not for budging on it.

Rainbow bright

dib wrote: »

Will do mate. I suspect it'll be a tough one but I'm not for budging on it.

Thanks Dib as unfortunate as it is it's nice to know someone else is pushing over the same issue. What builder are you buying from?

I have been in contact with the local authorities and the local TD replied confirming what the builder had advised me, that 10 properties where affected in the first phase and the effected houses were fixed and there have been no issues since.

dib

Hi Rainbow Bright.

We're buying from Mycete Homes. It's important to stress that the house is 6 years old. It's never had anyone living in it.

We had a full structural survey done and they found no evidence of swelling or indications of pyrite damage so I'd say it's safe to say that the house is fine, but I'd still like a cert or statement to say that the house is pyrite free.

Hopefully everything will be sorted sooner rather than later.

D

Rainbow bright

Hi Dib,

Thanks we are buying off North City Builders. When I initially found out about the pyrite issue I spoke to Mycete and then North city and they advised that they would provide a letter which they did very quickly and told me the people in the house next to the one we are going for requested one also. We have been advised that the houses built by our builder have not been affected.

However, the way the letter is worded it says that there is no evidence of pyrite as of yet and the materials used came from a quarry that was not associated with pyrite. That is why we are pushing for confirmation from the quarry as I did ask could we carry out the test and got told there was no need as the house was ok. If that is the case than why not allow the test be carried out.

We do know people in the estate and one person in the part where there was an issue and all people have told us the houses are fine.
I have also been in contact with the local council, local TD and made contact with pyrite action groups but have gotten nothing concrete as of yet to confirm the house is free.

Like you I would like a cert for peace of mind, and in the future if we went to sell the property we may be requested to carry out the test in order to sell.

I hope this is of some help to you, it gets sorted very quickly for you.

donspeekinglesh

Rainbow bright wrote: »

I have been in contact with the local authorities and the local TD replied confirming what the builder had advised me, that 10 properties where affected in the first phase and the effected houses were fixed and there have been no issues since.

As a resident this tallies with what I've seen.

TonyStark

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

As a resident this tallies with what I've seen.

As a resident also I can confirm that this is the case.

Rainbow bright

Thanks for the feedback Tonystark and donspeekinglesh

Rainbow bright

Hi dib,

Just wondering if you have had any luck with getting the pyrite test for the house?
We are still at a stand still. We are waiting for confirmation from the quarry for the past two months now.
What phase are you buying in?

R

dib

Hey! We're stalled on another issue at the moment but the pyrite issue is still on the table. I'm keeping a regular eye on this thread so I'll post back as soon as something happens. It's so frustrating though. We just want to move into our new home and start making the place our own! I'm sure you feel the same!

sawdoubters

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/website/npsra/pprweb.nsf/page/ppr-home-en

dib

@swdoubters Maybe an explanation as to the relevence of that link would help. I think most people in the process of buying a house are aware of the existence of the Property Price Register. Is there something else you're getting at?

Rainbow bright

dib wrote: »

Hey! We're stalled on another issue at the moment but the pyrite issue is still on the table. I'm keeping a regular eye on this thread so I'll post back as soon as something happens. It's so frustrating though. We just want to move into our new home and start making the place our own! I'm sure you feel the same!

Hi Dib,

We got some news today but not what we were promised. We got a letter saying if the property shows signs on pyrite in the next five yrs the builder will rectify it.
Needless to say after this complete u turn we are pushing for the test.

R

Rainbow bright

Hi Dib

I hope your house is going well. We have pulled out of buying in the estate after getting our engineers report. The builder got a bit nasty our solicitor asked what he had to hide considering we were willing to pay to test the house.

R

Anjalinasp

Hey Rainbow Bright..

Do you mean the builder didnt allow the structural survey of the property? Which builder you were buying from - North City or Mycete?

The builder is acting fishy.. why would a good builder have an objection for any of the inspections by potential buyers??

mildaS

Rainbow bright wrote: »

Hi Dib

I hope your house is going well. We have pulled out of buying in the estate after getting our engineers report. The builder got a bit nasty our solicitor asked what he had to hide considering we were willing to pay to test the house.

R

Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...

Rainbow bright

mildaS wrote: »

Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...

We were with north city builders.

Rainbow bright

mildaS wrote: »

Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...

We were with north city builders. when we asked to test the property due to the pyrite issue that he confirmed he told us that any engineer worth his salt would say that the house was fine, our engineer gave the house an amber warning for pyrite the only way that would change is if the house was tested and the builder would not allow testing, We sent in engineers that specialise in pyrite and they gave it amber that's why we pulled out. I would recommend a pyrite visual inspection at least before signing anything.

mildaS

Rainbow bright wrote: »

We were with north city builders. when we asked to test the property due to the pyrite issue that he confirmed he told us that any engineer worth his salt would say that the house was fine, our engineer gave the house an amber warning for pyrite the only way that would change is if the house was tested and the builder would not allow testing, We sent in engineers that specialise in pyrite and they gave it amber that's why we pulled out. I would recommend a pyrite visual inspection at least before signing anything.

Wow, we signed it all last week. haven't had the test done. But think its def worth doing it now. So annoying with Mick for not answering the phone. Hope this wont turn out to be our worst nightmare!

mildaS

Is there anybody in the middle of getting their house built with North city builders?