Would you kiss someone with HIV/hepatitis?

Scanlas The 2nd

I recently learned of a friends uncle who has hepatitis, he is in a relationship with a woman hepatitis free and it made me wonder how she could do it. I have a mild case of OCD so there is no way I could do it.

shopaholic01

Do you ask everyone to have a test before you kiss them?

Chances are people do without knowing, but HIV/Hep B and C are not spread through kissing.

Scanlas The 2nd

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Do you ask everyone to have a test before you kiss them?

Chances are people do without knowing, but HIV/Hep B and C are not spread through kissing.

Obviously it's if you know they have it, plus it's theoretically possible to transmit HIV or hepatitis through kissing if both parties have cuts.

shopaholic01

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Obviously it's if you know they have it, plus it's theoretically possible to transmit HIV or hepatitis through kissing if both parties have cuts.

If you know in advance you would have the opportunity to research the risks and look at preventing cross infection. I'm sure the lady in question is not putting herself at risk. If they were spread that easily through kissing a lot of people would be infected after every weekend.

Yamanoto

I wouldn't kiss someone with a mild case of OCD.

Don't wanna spend the rest of my life avoiding the cracks on paving stones.

keith16

*puts on fonzy accent

Only if it's hepatitis Aaaaa!!!

fran17

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Do you ask everyone to have a test before you kiss them?

Chances are people do without knowing, but HIV/Hep B and C are not spread through kissing.

not sure thats the advice the medical community would give...aint HIV present in saliva?

Andy!!

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I have a mild case of OCD so

Whats that got to do with it, I've no OCD and I wouldn't like the idea of it either.

Scanlas The 2nd

Andy!! wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I have a mild case of OCD so

Whats that got to do with it, I've no OCD and I wouldn't like the idea of it either.

Ok

shopaholic01

fran17 wrote: »

not sure thats the advice the medical community would give...aint HIV present in saliva?

Yes, it's present in all body fluids, but the viral load in saliva is too low to allow transmission. You never see AIDS/HEP prevention recommending you not to kiss anyone. You also can't contract these from sharing eating utensils etc.

holystungun9

Not without a condom.

shopaholic01

holystungun9 wrote: »

Not without a condom.

You kiss with a condom?

fran17

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Yes, it's present in all body fluids, but the viral load in saliva is too low to allow transmission. You never see AIDS/HEP prevention recommending you not to kiss anyone. You also can't contract these from sharing eating utensils etc.

how about if its a really sloppy kiss:D

LETHAL LADY

A girl I went to school with contracted HIV in her twenties. She has since gotten married and had a child and now works as a healthcare professional in this country. Would I kiss her, no I am not a lesbian.

The_Minister

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Yes, it's present in all body fluids, but the viral load in saliva is too low to allow transmission. You never see AIDS/HEP prevention recommending you not to kiss anyone. You also can't contract these from sharing eating utensils etc.

The CDC says you're wrong: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

Can HIV be transmitted by kissing?

It depends on the type of kissing. There is no risk from closed-mouth kissing.

There are extremely rare cases of HIV being transmitted via deep “French” kissing but in each case, infected blood was exchanged due to bleeding gums or sores in the mouth. Because of this remote risk, it is recommended that individuals who are HIV-infected avoid deep, open-mouth “French” kissing with a non-infected partner, as there is a potential risk of transferring infected blood. Summary:

There is no risk of transmission closed-mouth kissing.
There is a remote risk from deep, open-mouth kissing if there are sores or bleeding gums and blood is exchanged. Therefore, persons living with HIV should avoid this behavior with a non-infected partner.


So there is a very low risk of HIV transmission.

shopaholic01

fran17 wrote: »

how about if its a really sloppy kiss:D

In that case I suggest you try to perfect your technique and warn your kissing partner not to ....eh..... swallow !

holystungun9

holystungun9 wrote: »

Not without a condom.

shopaholic01 wrote: »

You kiss with a condom?

Yes, yes I do. (Who's the weirdo now???) I got my sex education from Naked Gun. (I think; porn has ruined my attention span and memory)

Teyla Emmagan

The_Minister wrote: »

The CDC says you're wrong: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

Can HIV be transmitted by kissing?

It depends on the type of kissing. There is no risk from closed-mouth kissing.

There are extremely rare cases of HIV being transmitted via deep “French” kissing but in each case, infected blood was exchanged due to bleeding gums or sores in the mouth. Because of this remote risk, it is recommended that individuals who are HIV-infected avoid deep, open-mouth “French” kissing with a non-infected partner, as there is a potential risk of transferring infected blood. Summary:

There is no risk of transmission closed-mouth kissing.
There is a remote risk from deep, open-mouth kissing if there are sores or bleeding gums and blood is exchanged. Therefore, persons living with HIV should avoid this behavior with a non-infected partner.


So there is a very low risk of HIV transmission.

What sort of gob****e goes around sucking the tonsils off someone with a mouth full of bleeding sores though? Those sort of statistics should come with the caveat that they only apply to the very stupid.

shopaholic01

The_Minister wrote: »

The CDC says you're wrong: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

Can HIV be transmitted by kissing?

It depends on the type of kissing. There is no risk from closed-mouth kissing.

There are extremely rare cases of HIV being transmitted via deep “French” kissing but in each case, infected blood was exchanged due to bleeding gums or sores in the mouth. Because of this remote risk, it is recommended that individuals who are HIV-infected avoid deep, open-mouth “French” kissing with a non-infected partner, as there is a potential risk of transferring infected blood. Summary:

There is no risk of transmission closed-mouth kissing.
There is a remote risk from deep, open-mouth kissing if there are sores or bleeding gums and blood is exchanged. Therefore, persons living with HIV should avoid this behavior with a non-infected partner.


So there is a very low risk of HIV transmission.

The low risk is present in the case of open sores or bleeding as I think the OP pointed out. It is not spread from saliva. The advice is given to those already infected, not the general population.

Obvious problem with this is that some people aren't yet aware that they are infected or may not disclose it. There is never any advice given to non-infected people to avoid kissing those whose infection status is unknown.

senorwipesalot

Blue Waffle.

alfa beta

"Would you kiss someone with HIV/hepatitis?"



Course I would - I just wouldn't tell em I had it

Boom Boom!

Dockington

Not a hope in hell if i knew the person had it. Might be closed minded of me but i couldn't care less that sh1t scares me

Micky Dolenz

Depends how hot they are.

Grayson

Yes I would, but not on their privates

xDramaxQueenx

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

efb

Yes.

blackwave

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

Your username is rather apt i think :rolleyes:

Anyway it wouldn't bother me kissing someone with if I knew them.

xDramaxQueenx

blackwave wrote: »

Your username is rather apt i think :rolleyes:

Yeah sorry, my bad.
Apologies for not wanting to catch a deadly disease.

mattjack

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

Did you actually say in your thesis that you can contract HIV from a mosquito ?

xDramaxQueenx

mattjack wrote: »

Did you actually say in your thesis that you can contract HIV from a mosquito ?

No! I stuck to the facts, not the warnings.

efb

You still drive even though you fear dying?

Much higher mortality rate in Irl atm.

MrTsSnickers

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

Good grief, this is like a daily mail "article".

xDramaxQueenx

I don't fear dying at all. I couldn't care less about dying. What I fear is having a virus run rife through your body, for years and years, something that you have no control over, while it slowly kills you.

shopaholic01

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

Yeah sorry, my bad.
Apologies for not wanting to catch a deadly disease.

It is now believed that 70% of those infected with HIV will have a normal life expectancy and will die of a condition unrelated to their HIV status as long as they receive the correct medical treatment.

The worst thing about having HIV would be the social stigma associated with the condition, This is mainly due to a lack of understanding about the condition. It is no longer a death sentence and there are far more serious and deadly diseases out there.

Teyla Emmagan

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

Get a grip. People live long and healthy lives with both HIV and Hepatitis. Talk about hysterics.

efb

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

I don't fear dying at all. I couldn't care less about dying. What I fear is having a virus run rife through your body, for years and years, something that you have no control over, while it slowly kills you.

you could be mangled for life in a car accident

xDramaxQueenx

efb wrote: »

you could be mangled for life in a car accident

At least its not AIDS.

losthorizon

I'm a man so I wouldnt kiss him anyway but considering his name I would defo give him a miss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cocks

efb

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

At least its not AIDS.

So its a social issue you have, not a medical one.

mattjack

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

I don't fear dying at all. I couldn't care less about dying. What I fear is having a virus run rife through your body, for years and years, something that you have no control over, while it slowly kills you.

There is treatment now with ARV's and HAART that can prolong life.

xDramaxQueenx

Its all the issues. I don't want it. Social, medical, whatever else. Being dramatic? Its mostly careless people who end up getting it. Won't be me. And like I said, god forbid if I did have it, I wouldn't be around long enough to care about medicines to prolong my life. You have it and nothing will ever get rid of it.

Micky Dolenz

Something very familiar going on here.

efb

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

No I wouldn't. Recently found out that an asian girl that was in my class with me since 1st year had hep. That freaks me out, even being near her. I would most definately not kiss someone with it.

HIV freaks me out to the point I done my thesis on it, researched it in minute detail, so as I wouldn't catch it. You know that squatting a mosquito thats bitten someone with HIV actually can cause you to get it, if you have a cut? I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening.

While doing the research for my thesis, I found what was called "gift giving", that made me not sleep for ages thinking about it. Its where gay men hold a gift giving party, there is 1 HIV positive male there, and all the men have unprotected sex with different men, nobody knowing who is actually the positive one. All in the hopes of catching it. Its sick. Its called "pozzing".

Some men see it as a "gift", they might be dating a hiv positive guy, and feel like they're receiving something special. Its very disturbing and they should all be locked up, never to be let out again.

I would rather be mugged with a gun, and have my head blown off, than be mugged with a syringe and have to live with that terrible disease for the rest of my life, i would no joke kill myself if i caught it. There would be nothing worse. Nothing.

What was your reference material? "The Irish Catholic" and pamphlets from The Iona institute???

Richard Hillman

Would i kiss Pamela Anderson? Yes

zef

I have a horrible fear of being buried alive, but I wouldn't do my thesis on it...

xDramaxQueenx

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17166076
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4895012.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33NRKnFz_WM

Dockington

efb wrote: »

What was your reference material? "The Irish Catholic" and pamphlets from The Iona institute???

Whats your problem with someone wanting to avoid getting a disease...I admit dramaqueen seems to have a bit of an odd obsession with the disease but still its logical to take precautions to avoid it...avoiding unprotected sex etc.

You seem to be taking offence to this person not wanting to contract it.

Oranage2

No. I've my reasons, not wanting hiv being the biggest one.

efb

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17166076
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4895012.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33NRKnFz_WM

And Deborah Jack, chief executive of the National AIDS Trust said: "There is very little evidence of people trying to get infected with HIV.- BBC Article

The video was ref the article.

efb

Dockington wrote: »

Whats your problem with someone wanting to avoid getting a disease...I admit dramaqueen seems to have a bit of an odd obsession with the disease but still its logical to take precautions to avoid it...avoiding unprotected sex etc.

You seem to be taking offence to this person not wanting to contract it.

I was seeing how rational it was- which essentially seemed to reveal the poster's obsession with one specific disease, not a disease.

Rational is important for me.

shopaholic01

xDramaxQueenx wrote: »

I watched a tv programme once where someone picked up a petrol pump, and there was a needle taped to the inside, and they were spiked with it. Its why I pull my sleeve over my hand when Im filling petrol, although I know theres like .00001% of a chance it happening

Do you wear a coat of armour? I'm pretty sure a needle would pass through your sleeve and pierce your skin anyway in this unlikey scenario. You're much more likely to be killed in a road traffic accident, so you should consider not driving, or being a passenger in another vehicle, or even being a pedestrian.