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shake diet for wedding

  • 29-08-2012 1:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    hi every one ,

    just wondering if any one else has used the herbalife shake diet before?

    i started it bout 4 months ago and have found my monthly cycle to be interruped, ive never been really thart regular so i thought nothing of it but its never been this bad, so what id like to know is this a common problem???

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Goat the dote


    lowly26 wrote: »
    hi every one ,

    just wondering if any one else has used the herbalife shake diet before?

    i started it bout 4 months ago and have found my monthly cycle to be interruped, ive never been really thart regular so i thought nothing of it but its never been this bad, so what id like to know is this a common problem???

    thanks

    I have my first stone just gone on it, another 3 to go!
    I'm on since middle of may but wasn't doing it right at all. On it seriously about 4-5 weeks.
    I have the coil in so that's no help about monthly cycle. Have u lost weight? Have u much to lose?
    Do you have much contact with your coach or where did u get it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,396 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Stupid, stupid, stupid idea that even if it leaves you a thinner bride than fiancée will lead to you being a fatter wife.

    Crash diets destroy your metabolism and this one is clearly causing you health problems. There are no quick fixes in weight loss. Do you honestly think you'd have to ask advice about it on an internet forum if there was? If any of the magic slimming pills /diets or exercise replacements worked, everyone in the world would know all about it.

    The Health and Fitness forums have great advice for getting in shape but what it ultimately boils down to is eating a healthy calorific deficit whilst exercising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Goat the dote


    Herbalife isn't necessarily a crash diet. It's a long term eating plan. There's nothing crashing about my weight, and have to exercise too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    I have my first stone just gone on it, another 3 to go!
    I'm on since middle of may but wasn't doing it right at all. On it seriously about 4-5 weeks.
    I have the coil in so that's no help about monthly cycle. Have u lost weight? Have u much to lose?
    Do you have much contact with your coach or where did u get it?

    ive lost nearly 2 stone, but again i havent been sticking to it to intensely either. yea i can see her every week but ive transport issues and havent been able to get there, im getting married next year and just wanted to get a little bit down so i can fit in to a nicer dress i dont want to be model skinny or anything lol i have bout another one or two to go.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Stupid, stupid, stupid idea that even if it leaves you a thinner bride than fiancée will lead to you being a fatter wife.

    Crash diets destroy your metabolism and this one is clearly causing you health problems. There are no quick fixes in weight loss. Do you honestly think you'd have to ask advice about it on an internet forum if there was? If any of the magic slimming pills /diets or exercise replacements worked, everyone in the world would know all about it.

    The Health and Fitness forums have great advice for getting in shape but what it ultimately boils down to is eating a healthy calorific deficit whilst exercising.

    thanks for the advice about the health and fitness forum. it is not a crash diet however it is a plan that works with excerise over an extended period of time. i am not stupid enough to think that ill do it and wake up next week a size 6. what it has done for me is helped me stop snaking in between meals and drinking over 4 litres of a particular soft drink a day. i also now know the importance of portion size and healthier eating.

    there are many reason why the cycle could be interuped i just wanted to ask if herbalife could be one of them before i went bothering my doctor because i am not displaying any other signs of any thing else being wrong.

    so while you may not find it benifical, i have done, and as for been a fat wife , its not him who wants me to lose weight its me so i dont think it'll matter if im 10 stone or 100.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,396 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    No shake diet is a proper diet. Please, for the good of your health, start a thread about this over in the Nutition forum. In fact, I just checked, there's threads about it over there already: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80153003

    Any of these meal replacement diets are simply dangerous nonsense. A pharmacist friend of mine is always despairing at how wrong it is of chemists to sell such crap to people. They involve extreme calorific deficits and are never nutritionally complete. Such an extreme calorific deficit can and does effect a woman's menstrual cycle. Your body thinks it's being starved so it shuts down it's ability to procreate (the same actually happens many women when they drop below double digit body fat percentages btw).

    That there's exercise involved may take it a step up from slimming pills or some of the other diets that involve replacing healthy, unprocessed food with powder from sachets but it'll still never beat the results you'd get from a proper overhaul of your diet and resistance-based exercise program which would also have the benefits of not destroying your metabolism.

    Maybe hubby to be is fine with you being fat but if you're taking this stuff, you're clearly not. Lose the weight properly or don't bother, you'll just end up ruining the newlywed phase for yourself when you're piling on weight after coming off the diet and enjoying the nice meals on your honeymoon / on weekends away or dining out on vouchers you got as wedding presents.

    EDIT: All that said, while boards is a fine place to ask about nutrition or exercise, it's a terrible place to be looking for medical advice and it's against site policy to allow it so your thread will probably be locked anyhow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    great advice above.


    for food, dont leave the outside aisles in the supermarket and you wont go too far wrong.

    then go to the gym, get a weight loss program, stick to it. Youll get better and more supportive replies to "Im doing this exercise but not losing weight" than "Im on this product but not losing weight".

    your body will thank you for it, you'll feel healthier, youll live healthier, your concentration increases, your joie de vivre increases, your skin will look healthier, youll start to glow and people will give you more presents on your wedding day. (milage may vary on that last one).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Herbalife isn't necessarily a crash diet. It's a long term eating plan.

    Any diet based on expensive milkshakes, instead of proper eating, is not a long term eating plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    sleepy,


    just to clear up i wasnt looking for a medical opinion, i was just looking to see if other women's experiance is the same as mine is. for a medical opinion i go to my doctor not boards.ie

    but i have taken all your advice and concerns on board,and will think over everything thanks.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,974 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I think this thread would be better suited to the Nutrition & Diet forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Do you actually know what your putting into your body? I got the opportunity to look at the nutritional info, only for a second and it's FULL of sugar, they are not healthy and your kidding yourself if you think that it's a good plan.

    A better plan would be to use the money your currently spending on this sugar drink to get a personal trainer, there's guys on here that will probably know some good ones that are in your area.

    Also go to the doctor and get a blood test to find out what's wrong, it's the common sense thing to do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    Unless you are willing to drink these shakes for the rest of your life you are heading for disaster.

    You still have plenty of time the lose weight healthily, not drinking this crap.

    Read the forums here and the advice given.

    You will soon learn how disastrous this crap is.

    1) Eat healthily
    2) Portion control
    3) No snacking
    4) No crash dieting
    5) Exercise
    6) Limit alcohol consumption

    There's no silver bullet here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    A friend of mine done this shake diet a few years back ago.
    In 6 months he lost approx 4 stone.

    The following year he gained 8 stone (no lie)
    When he started to eat normally again he couldn't control what he was eating and how much he was eating. He would wake in the middle of the night to go for a burger.

    He now looks bigger than he ever did and suffers with really bad health problems.
    Very sad but true.

    so my advice would be ... STAY AWAY FROM ANY QUICK FIX, FAD, CRAPPY DIETS!!!




  • anecdotal evidence both for and against the 'diets' isn't really worth talking about unfortunately.

    For me, a diet isn't just a "8 week plan to lose X amount, after which I will return to eating junk". It's a lifestyle change.

    Think of it like studying for exams. Some people work all year round, at any stage, they're ready for quiz questions etc. Other people cram in the last 5 weeks only, just trying to memorise everything to pass the paper.

    On the day of the exam, both can do equally well.

    After the exam, the crammer is likely to forget a whole lot of what they've done, return to their previous bad habits etc, and the cycle continues the following year.

    'Fixing' your lifestyle, and how you approach, choose and consume foods will have a long long term benefit to you. 'Temporarily adjusting' what you put in your body will not.

    FWIW, you could probably get to your goal weight with a proper eating plan instead of a shakes diet. Cheaper, more satiated, healthier and also with the ability to simply increase portion sizes slowly when you reach your target weight in order to slow the weight loss /maintain the weight you'd like to be at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    thanks for all help ful advice think im goin to switch to weigh watchers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Just of curiosity OP, what size would you like to be on your first wedding anniversary?




  • no no. Instead, now about having a read of this and then ask any questions you might have about it.

    The aspect of WW I see as a benefit is the "group guilt" idea to prevent over-consumption, but it's not a balanced diet as far as I can tell, and their own products are junk. The low-fat preaching is pretty nonsensical too.

    The Nutrition101 thread should take no more than 2/3 hours to skim through. Make notes and ask questions. We will help, and it's free!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Just of curiosity OP, what size would you like to be on your first wedding anniversary?

    im happy enough been size 14 or under am not or will never be a super skinny model which im perfectly fine with , i love my food to much lol :D id rather be healthy and have a little extra weight than size six and sick

    but i tried weight watchers before and lost weight but then got pregnant and craved junk like pizza and chinese food the spicier the better, however i use to make all my own pasta sauces and soups (some of which are very heathy and low fat and filling, i just fell out of that routine.

    ive started again today to make my own stuff fresh and will stay away from the grease in the chip pan and eating after 7 or so!! also the school routine has started again which means a mile and a 1/4 walk twice a day pushing a buggy. started doin ten k on excerise bike since monday so hopefully all these things will help, also i no longer drink nearly 4 litres of coke a day!!

    thanks for the advice and will see how i get on the next few weeks!! :D


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    It's a simple formula for weight loss really.

    EAT LESS AND MOVE MORE. :D

    unfortunately there's no quick simple fix you have to put in the hard yards if you want to see the rewards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    lowly26 wrote: »
    im happy enough been size 14 or under am not or will never be a super skinny model which im perfectly fine with , i love my food to much lol :D id rather be healthy and have a little extra weight than size six and sick

    but i tried weight watchers before and lost weight but then got pregnant and craved junk like pizza and chinese food the spicier the better, however i use to make all my own pasta sauces and soups (some of which are very heathy and low fat and filling, i just fell out of that routine.

    ive started again today to make my own stuff fresh and will stay away from the grease in the chip pan and eating after 7 or so!! also the school routine has started again which means a mile and a 1/4 walk twice a day pushing a buggy. started doin ten k on excerise bike since monday so hopefully all these things will help, also i no longer drink nearly 4 litres of coke a day!!

    thanks for the advice and will see how i get on the next few weeks!! :D

    well done. its starting off and routine is the hardest bit. we've 3 kids in school at home and my wife is same, always trying to get from a 14 down to a 12 or a 10 if theres something to aim for. schools back this week sees time in the morning to start again. Its constant non-stop.
    Fizzies just have to go.
    midweek wine/beer has to go
    that jaffa cake at 11am has to go. replace it with fruit.
    tea/coffee has to go. replace with green tea.
    Rice, pastas and breads have to go. If you must have these, try and keep it wholemeal.

    once you get into that routine youll be fine. might take 10-14 days but once the first few pounds go, youll be addicted and will feel guilty when youre having a snack.

    Just ignore anything that says lo or lo-fat. you shouldnt even be looking in those aisles in the first place and if theyre not in the cupboard you wont eat them. Its hard to start but youll get there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    lowly26 wrote: »
    im happy enough been size 14 or under am not or will never be a super skinny model which im perfectly fine with , i love my food to much lol :D id rather be healthy and have a little extra weight than size six and sick

    but i tried weight watchers before and lost weight but then got pregnant and craved junk like pizza and chinese food the spicier the better, however i use to make all my own pasta sauces and soups (some of which are very heathy and low fat and filling, i just fell out of that routine.

    ive started again today to make my own stuff fresh and will stay away from the grease in the chip pan and eating after 7 or so!! also the school routine has started again which means a mile and a 1/4 walk twice a day pushing a buggy. started doin ten k on excerise bike since monday so hopefully all these things will help, also i no longer drink nearly 4 litres of coke a day!!

    thanks for the advice and will see how i get on the next few weeks!! :D

    If you rely on the shakes to lose weight you'll never learn what your own body needs to maintain your ideal weight, whatever that may be. Unless you learn that you'll put all the weight back on by the end of the first year.

    The fact that you can cook is fantastic and is often a big hurdle for many people. Real food tastes so much nicer than chalky shakes, enjoy it.

    Throw the chip pan in a skip though, seriously.

    Best of luck with the weight loss and the wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    well done. its starting off and routine is the hardest bit. we've 3 kids in school at home and my wife is same, always trying to get from a 14 down to a 12 or a 10 if theres something to aim for. schools back this week sees time in the morning to start again. Its constant non-stop.
    Fizzies just have to go.
    midweek wine/beer has to go
    that jaffa cake at 11am has to go. replace it with fruit.
    tea/coffee has to go. replace with green tea.
    Rice, pastas and breads have to go. If you must have these, try and keep it wholemeal.

    once you get into that routine youll be fine. might take 10-14 days but once the first few pounds go, youll be addicted and will feel guilty when youre having a snack.

    Just ignore anything that says lo or lo-fat. you shouldnt even be looking in those aisles in the first place and if theyre not in the cupboard you wont eat them. Its hard to start but youll get there.

    its grand cause i dont drink tea may have to odd cup of coffee but im talking may one every three months , i dont like biscuits and alcohol just puts me to sleep after one now a days (im getting old lol) so i guess thats half the battle, i usually eat wholemeal bread, but rarely eat pasta. i use the pasta sauce that i make my self as somethin to put over chicken or fish, i guess it'll all in the head !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    hardCopy wrote: »
    If you rely on the shakes to lose weight you'll never learn what your own body needs to maintain your ideal weight, whatever that may be. Unless you learn that you'll put all the weight back on by the end of the first year.

    The fact that you can cook is fantastic and is often a big hurdle for many people. Real food tastes so much nicer than chalky shakes, enjoy it.

    Throw the chip pan in a skip though, seriously.

    Best of luck with the weight loss and the wedding.

    id get rid of the chip pan but the hubby 2 be and the kids would have a fit ha ha!!

    thanks very much :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭sky is the limit


    I guess I can speak from personal experience, been there done that wore the tshirt etc etc.

    I used to be about 220 pounds so about a year ago so I decided with great determination to do everything I could to shift this dam weight....as long as it wasnt too difficult :rolleyes:.

    Let me tell ya what I done, first the good, I walked every day for an hr usually with the dog,drank lots of water cut out most if not all the take outs and generally tried as hard as I thought I could.

    I dropped about 4 pounds over a 3month period, not very impressive and a bit disheartening.

    Never one to give up though I then embarked on the most expensive soul destroying stupidest and potentially dangerous course of action I could have chosen.... I went on the shakes, not cheap in more ways than one, I then decided to ramp it up by buying "Capsiplex" slimming pills,(all the celebs take them so they must work!) @ 40 euro per month on top of the shakes, after a week of this combination I felt absolutely awful, I craved sugar again and while the weight was down a couple of pounds it didnt look like it on my face or body.

    What happened next will stay with me forever, while out on a walk with the dog after taking my morning shake the unthinkable occured,if you are just about to eat then dont read on! To put it as delicately as possible... it all came out,unstoppable diarreaha and there was not a dam thing I could do to stop it:o

    Luckily for me I was in the middle of the countryside so no-one was around, I got back to my car and sorted myself out and even though I am a guy I just cried:(.

    I put it entirely down to those fkin shakes combined with the wonder pills, my body just didnt know where the hell it was and it let me know in the most embarrassing way!

    I have learned the hard way,the expensive way,the humiliating way that the only things that work are all the things that have already been advised to you already by the good folk on this forum.

    Now after massive changes to my diet and a bit of running I weigh a good bit less, I feel FANTASTIC, and I know its a journey that I will be on for the rest of my life,but ye know what, I am loving it:):)

    You will be fine as long as you follow the rules,and you will feel great,and that is what it is all about after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    back in 2007/08 I was obsessed with going to the gym - lifting weights, cardio, etc - and after reading a lot of 'advice' on bodybuilding forums I decided to go on LOW FAT diet because I wanted to see my abs (so called six-pack). I wasn't starving myself, I was eating about 1500kcal a day but very low fat (ok it's a bit low amount but I was 'cutting'), probably less than 20g of fat per day, all food I bought was low fat or fat free. I was fine for a few months and was loosing some body fat but then my periods kinda went crazy. they would last for two weeks and repeat every two weeks or would disappear altogether. I had to go on the pill for two years to get my periods regular again (I hate the pill!) all only now I don't need pill to menstruate normally.
    Lesson learned - all diets that call for low fat are joke. Never again. Now my diet is about 50% fat and if I cut down on the amount of nuts I eat I actually loose weight (this is very hard to do because I crazy about nuts). I think low fat diets shouldn't be recommended to women.

    Good luck with your quest OP! I believe you're gonna be a beautiful bride on your wedding day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    I guess I can speak from personal experience, been there done that wore the tshirt etc etc.

    I used to be about 220 pounds so about a year ago so I decided with great determination to do everything I could to shift this dam weight....as long as it wasnt too difficult :rolleyes:.

    Let me tell ya what I done, first the good, I walked every day for an hr usually with the dog,drank lots of water cut out most if not all the take outs and generally tried as hard as I thought I could.

    I dropped about 4 pounds over a 3month period, not very impressive and a bit disheartening.

    Never one to give up though I then embarked on the most expensive soul destroying stupidest and potentially dangerous course of action I could have chosen.... I went on the shakes, not cheap in more ways than one, I then decided to ramp it up by buying "Capsiplex" slimming pills,(all the celebs take them so they must work!) @ 40 euro per month on top of the shakes, after a week of this combination I felt absolutely awful, I craved sugar again and while the weight was down a couple of pounds it didnt look like it on my face or body.

    What happened next will stay with me forever, while out on a walk with the dog after taking my morning shake the unthinkable occured,if you are just about to eat then dont read on! To put it as delicately as possible... it all came out,unstoppable diarreaha and there was not a dam thing I could do to stop it:o

    Luckily for me I was in the middle of the countryside so no-one was around, I got back to my car and sorted myself out and even though I am a guy I just cried:(.

    I put it entirely down to those fkin shakes combined with the wonder pills, my body just didnt know where the hell it was and it let me know in the most embarrassing way!

    I have learned the hard way,the expensive way,the humiliating way that the only things that work are all the things that have already been advised to you already by the good folk on this forum.

    Now after massive changes to my diet and a bit of running I weigh a good bit less, I feel FANTASTIC, and I know its a journey that I will be on for the rest of my life,but ye know what, I am loving it:):)

    You will be fine as long as you follow the rules,and you will feel great,and that is what it is all about after all.


    have changed my ways no more shakes for me have excerised a lot and am goin to keep it up. im sorry to hear bout your awful experience but im def goin to learn from it. eat less move more is my new motto!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭lowly26


    j@utis wrote: »
    back in 2007/08 I was obsessed with going to the gym - lifting weights, cardio, etc - and after reading a lot of 'advice' on bodybuilding forums I decided to go on LOW FAT diet because I wanted to see my abs (so called six-pack). I wasn't starving myself, I was eating about 1500kcal a day but very low fat (ok it's a bit low amount but I was 'cutting'), probably less than 20g of fat per day, all food I bought was low fat or fat free. I was fine for a few months and was loosing some body fat but then my periods kinda went crazy. they would last for two weeks and repeat every two weeks or would disappear altogether. I had to go on the pill for two years to get my periods regular again (I hate the pill!) all only now I don't need pill to menstruate normally.
    Lesson learned - all diets that call for low fat are joke. Never again. Now my diet is about 50% fat and if I cut down on the amount of nuts I eat I actually loose weight (this is very hard to do because I crazy about nuts). I think low fat diets shouldn't be recommended to women.

    Good luck with your quest OP! I believe you're gonna be a beautiful bride on your wedding day!

    thanks very much ! hopefully any way

    well the new regime has started today, my sister in law to be is goin to weigh me every week to track my progress and so i dont edit a little to make myself feel better lol. doin it the hard way will work out longer harder and much more benifical and even if i dont lose weight i might even tone up what i have which will satisfy me also!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. My fitness pal is your best friend. Helps you avoid the "healthy" stuff with a million cals and other such pitfalls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    lowly26 wrote: »
    id get rid of the chip pan but the hubby 2 be and the kids would have a fit ha ha!!

    thanks very much :)

    They'll thank you in a few years!

    Sweet potato oven chips are the way forward, nom-nom-nom...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    lowly26 wrote: »
    id get rid of the chip pan but the hubby 2 be and the kids would have a fit ha ha!!

    thanks very much :)

    Don't worry if they have a bit of a tantrum. It's better than obesity. And do you genuinely think you'll be able to cook them crap food in that without getting the urge to eat it yourself? No chance.

    Chip pans are simply a way for lazy people to cook unhealthily.


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