can bouncers ban you from a club

rdogg12794

every time i go out i get dragged out of the line of this particular club in galway.

Because i was hammered and called the bouncer a prick back in june.

they said that i will be let in at the end of august and that has come and now they changed it to the end of september and the last sat they said the rest of my life im banned.

the annoying thing is literally every1 i know goes to this club and i never get in and we have to go to another not so great club.

i would bribe them if i had the money

is there anything i can do

srsly78

You can complain on the internet about it

Guill

Should bounces have to put up with verbal abuse?

Hande hoche!

Grow some facial hair, shave your head, start wearing an eye patch etc.

Andy-Pandy

Stop being so pissed when you try and get into the club and stop being a dick to the bouncers.

helimachoptor

You keep going back therefore they keep remembering you and I'm sure you're giving them more grief. Take a couple of months off and don't try to get in and then go back

Michael Weston

rdogg12794 wrote: »

every time i go out i get dragged out of the line of this particular club in galway.

Because i was hammered and called the bouncer a prick back in june.

they said that i will be let in at the end of august and that has come and now they changed it to the end of september and the last sat they said the rest of my life im banned.

the annoying thing is literally every1 i know goes to this club and i never get in and we have to go to another not so great club.

i would bribe them if i had the money

is there anything i can do

Its done now, you cant change it !!

Best thing you can do now is when you see the bouncer again, take a long run and kick him as hard as you can in his bollox and get some bang for your buck.

marshbaboon

Take an empty jam jar, chivers would be ideal. Clean it out with washing up liquid & hot water. you can remove the label on the jar with hot water & a knife.

Collect all your tears inside the jar (I'm sure you'll be able to fill it over the next few days). When full wrap a big bow around it and hand it to the bouncer in question.

He should let you in then no problem.

Irish_wolf

Get yourself and all your mates to send letters to the owner/general manager saying all of you will boycott the club and tell your friends to do likewise, keep it formal and dont rat out the particular bouncer or say they're ****e or whatever, common sense etc. If this is really all that has happened the owner will probably have a word with the bouncer. Talking with/bribing the bouncer will get you nowhere, except out of the line.

Seriously though is this place really worth it?

MadYaker

Maybe go in some day when you're not hammered and ask to see the bouncer in question or a manager, apologise and explain that you would very much like to spend your hard earned cash at their bar because its where all your friends go, if you are polite and sincere I'm sure they will see reason. Which club is it? Carbon?

CiaranK

Bouncers can really do whatever they want. Bit of power goes to their head.

Although it did teach you not to verbally abuse bouncers.

Gee Bag

Try kicking the door repeatedly when they don't let you in, bouncers just love that sh1t.....

syklops

"Management retain the right to refuse admition"


I have been hammered many many times and never been kicked out of anywhere. What did you do that got you kicked out? Maybe the bouncers are right in not letting you in. Maybe the people of Galway are better off not having you around to get hammered and do nasty stuff in clubs.

connundrum

CiaranK wrote: »

Bouncers can really do whatever they want. Bit of power goes to their head.

I can see in this case how the bouncer was responsible for the OP being hammered and abusive. Indeed.

OP, why continue to try get into a place that you are clearly not welcome to? Seriously, there must be at least dozens of alternate options in Galway.

rdogg12794

MadYaker wrote: »

Maybe go in some day when you're not hammered and ask to see the bouncer in question or a manager, apologise and explain that you would very much like to spend your hard earned cash at their bar because its where all your friends go, if you are polite and sincere I'm sure they will see reason. Which club is it? Carbon?

ya carbon haha

Melion

As someone already said, go to the man SOBER, apologise and tell him you plan to go away from his door for a few months. Go back in a few months SOBER and talk to him. It has worked on me in the past.
All you are doing is annoying him every week and he'll never let you in while you are standing outside abusing him(most likely what is happening when he takes you out of the line)

rdogg12794

connundrum wrote: »

I can see in this case how the bouncer was responsible for the OP being hammered and abusive. Indeed.

OP, why continue to try get into a place that you are clearly not welcome to? Seriously, there must be at least dozens of alternate options in Galway.

theres only 3 clubs that are 18s the other 2 are 21s and one of three 18s is absolute garbage

Tombi!

Go up to the club during the day, explain your situation and apologise to the bouncer.

Prick!

rdogg12794 wrote: »

ya carbon haha

and you called it a good club.....lol

rdogg12794

Melion wrote: »

As someone already said, go to the man SOBER, apologise and tell him you plan to go away from his door for a few months. Go back in a few months SOBER and talk to him. It has worked on me in the past.
All you are doing is annoying him every week and he'll never let you in while you are standing outside abusing him(most likely what is happening when he takes you out of the line)

no when they take me out of the line i never abuse them i say sorry everytime for calling them names i only called him names once in june

rdogg12794

Prick! wrote: »

and you called it a good club.....lol

well everyone im friends with goes there cuz its cheap

Pinturicchio

I really wouldn't put too much time or effort into trying to get into Carbon.

Lelantos

rdogg12794 wrote: »

Melion wrote: »

As someone already said, go to the man SOBER, apologise and tell him you plan to go away from his door for a few months. Go back in a few months SOBER and talk to him. It has worked on me in the past.
All you are doing is annoying him every week and he'll never let you in while you are standing outside abusing him(most likely what is happening when he takes you out of the line)

no when they take me out of the line i never abuse them i say sorry everytime for calling them names i only called him names once in june

Bouncers generally work for a private firm, not the club, write a letter to his employer asking for their rules on such matters.

Prick!

rdogg12794 wrote: »

well everyone im friends with goes there cuz its cheap

So you're just going out for cheap booze than a good time? Should just stay at home and drink the anus outta yourself.

MadYaker

This has never happened to any of my friends but then again none of them ever called any of the bouncers a prick. Take my advice in my previous post and if that doesn't work then I don't know... grow a beard or something.

Melion

rdogg12794 wrote: »

no when they take me out of the line i never abuse them i say sorry everytime for calling them names i only called him names once in june

From my experience working doors I'd highly doubt that. Young lads being taken out of a line in front of there friends while drunk don't just walk away. I've given you advice that I guarantee will work.

BUBBLE WRAP

rdogg12794 wrote: »

well everyone im friends with goes there cuz its cheap

What do they do to you thats cheap? :eek:

Dangerous Man

Don't worry about it OP - in a few years you'll realize how terrible nightclubs actually are and won't want to go anymore.

Gummy Panda

Burn the club down.

Then your friends will have to drink in a new location

Degag

Lelantos wrote: »

Bouncers generally work for a private firm, not the club, write a letter to his employer asking for their rules on such matters.

Why on earth would you do that? It's very simple, the guy caused trouble there some night and he's not being left in to the club for that reason. Writing letters is a waste of time.

Colmustard

Did you try apologising, which may have worked, but I doubt it, OP you sound like a spoilt dick who doesn't like rules.

I would have banned you for life.

Skuxx

Why is it always lads with **** all posts that things like this happen to!!

Melion

alan1990 wrote: »

Why is it always lads what **** all posts that things like this happen to!!

Re-regs because their original account got banned from here too.

Pottler

Try not to be a tosser, ie, change totally, then you will get in everywhere.

Ristiano Conaldo

alan1990 wrote: »

Why is it always lads what **** all posts that things like this happen to!!

Because things lads happen posts to like always ****.

Skuxx

Ristiano Conaldo wrote: »

Because things lads happen posts to like always ****.

Great first post....what does it mean??

Colmustard

I don't mind bouncers, they are just keeping the club/pub safe for the normals. I did doorwork yonks ago, it can be a stressful job.

Overthrow

OP, you're probably a little pr!ck when drunk, whether you realise it or not. Approach the man when sober, and when he's not working and trying to manage a crowd full of pr!cks, and you might have some success.

cgpg5

With this new rule in Galway you won't need to be heading to carbon during the weeks, it'll be all about the houseparties.

rdogg12794

im never hammered in the line it was just the once im always aware of what im doin and when they take me out of the line i dont say anything i just laugh it off and pretend like i dont care

its cheap to get in i mean

i never buy drinks in clubs

i only go for the good time a club is only as good as the ppl in it thats y i like carbon every1 i know goes there

Biggins

Any business can ban a person if on a previous occasion, such was their behaviour that they were disruptive to staff or others visiting, causing a disturbance with might have lead to a breach of the peace or did/said something that effected them in such a way that it would be detrimental to their "Legal Duty of Care" to their other patrons.

end of the road

if bouncers can't take a bit of verbal abuse then they are in the wrong job, i'm not saying they deserve it but they know dam well whats involved, the bouncer who banned the OP for life because he was called a prick needs to go get a new job and get over himself, he will eventually drive all the customers away anyway OP so you may as well find somewhere else to go.

Colmustard

end of the road wrote: »

if bouncers can't take a bit of verbal abuse then they are in the wrong job, i'm not saying they deserve it but they know dam well whats involved, the bouncer who banned the OP for life because he was called a prick needs to go get a new job and get over himself, he will eventually drive all the customers away anyway OP so you may as well find somewhere else to go.

If a customer can't take the consequences of abusing bouncers he needs to stop drinking and take up bowling, snooker or Bingo.

Melion

Out of interest what happened for you to call him a prick?

zcorpian88

Had a dickhead of a bouncer threaten to throw me out of a pub about 5 weeks ago.

What happened was it was around closing time, and you know the way you would get a bit of grace time after they stop serving, usually lasts about 15 minutes I guess right? My friends and I actually go to the same pub pretty much every week and the barman knows us all very well, actually on a quiet weekend, my friends and I which would consist of 7 or 8 people including myself pretty much keep the place in business.

Anyway the bar stopped serving and the owner is usually very flexible with us as we are no trouble at all and he even has a drink with us and have a bit of banter as we finish our last pint.

But this one night me and a friend of mine were just drinking talking away, was having a great night, next thing this bouncer walks over, singles me out looks me right in the eyes and says "You got two choices, you either leave yourself or I **** ya out" My friend and I just stood there pure gobsmacked as we done nothing to make trouble or trigger this reaction from the bouncer, the dude looked at me like I insulted his mother or somehing.

Feeling disrespected and unwanted we left. My friend was more pissed off than I was, but I was mad as **** over it for 2 days afterwards. Never happened me before.

Showed up to the same pub 2 weeks later and the bouncer is there pretending nothing happened. Going to be sketchy around him every time I'm in there from now on. Not going to let it throw me though as I always liked that pub.

Tombi!

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Showed up to the same pub 2 weeks later and the bouncer is there pretending nothing happened. Going to be sketchy around him every time I'm in there from now on. Not going to let it throw me though as I always liked that pub.

Or when you go back around and ask what the story is?
Maybe he knows one of the other lads or he thinks he knows you or anything could be up.

Overthrow

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Had a dickhead of a bouncer threaten to throw me out of a pub about 5 weeks ago.

What happened was it was around closing time, and you know the way you would get a bit of grace time after they stop serving, usually lasts about 15 minutes I guess right? My friends and I actually go to the same pub pretty much every week and the barman knows us all very well, actually on a quiet weekend, my friends and I which would consist of 7 or 8 people including myself pretty much keep the place in business.

Anyway the bar stopped serving and the owner is usually very flexible with us as we are no trouble at all and he even has a drink with us and have a bit of banter as we finish our last pint.

But this one night me and a friend of mine were just drinking talking away, was having a great night, next thing this bouncer walks over, singles me out looks me right in the eyes and says "You got two choices, you either leave yourself or I **** ya out" My friend and I just stood there pure gobsmacked as we done nothing to make trouble or trigger this reaction from the bouncer, the dude looked at me like I insulted his mother or somehing.

Feeling disrespected and unwanted we left. My friend was more pissed off than I was, but I was mad as **** over it for 2 days afterwards. Never happened me before.

Showed up to the same pub 2 weeks later and the bouncer is there pretending nothing happened. Going to be sketchy around him every time I'm in there from now on. Not going to let it throw me though as I always liked that pub.

If your fond of the manager you'd be doing him a favour by letting him know how his staff is treating the customers.

Biggins

Because of a number of discrimination cases in Ireland taken against a few places, the Equal Status Act 2000 came into creation.
In order to balance what cannot be used against a person and barring them from a place, against what reason legally a person might be stopped from entering, justification was clarified in a number of ways - one of which is below:

15.—(1) For greater certainty, nothing in this Act prohibiting discrimination shall be construed as requiring a person to dispose of goods or premises, or to provide services or accommodation or services and amenities related to accommodation, to another person (“the customer”) in circumstances which would lead a reasonable individual having the responsibility, knowledge and experience of the person to the belief, on grounds other than discriminatory grounds, that the disposal of the goods or premises or the provision of the services or accommodation or the services and amenities related to accommodation, as the case may be, to the customer would produce a substantial risk of criminal or disorderly conduct or behaviour or damage to property at or in the vicinity of the place in which the goods or services are sought or the premises or accommodation are located.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0008/sec0015.html#sec15

Its long winded but basically, if you were there before and was possible trouble or someone deemed you further could be trouble in the future, judging by past experience, they then have the legal right to stop entry and cease servicing said person with goods, etc, too.

In law, they just cannot bar anyone legally on very first appearance - if they did that and the person involved (in a remote chance) decided to legally pursue a case against them, they (the bar/club) might find it self in 'hot water' and even risk losing their licences or/and the placement of fines.

They have to be justified.

zcorpian88

Overthrow wrote: »

If your fond of the manager you'd be doing him a favour by letting him know how his staff is treating the customers.

He is hired by a separate security company I found out later so the manager has no real control over the bouncer.

zcorpian88

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Or when you go back around and ask what the story is?
Maybe he knows one of the other lads or he thinks he knows you or anything could be up.

The manager knows what happened anyway, my friend called another friend of ours that was still in the pub and told him and he went and told the manager. Haven't heard a thing about it since, long forgot by now I'd say. Kind of didn't want to make a big deal about it worrying that the bouncer would bear a grudge.

end of the road

Colmustard wrote: »

If a customer can't take the consequences of abusing bouncers he needs to stop drinking and take up bowling, snooker or Bingo.

its abuse, its not nice but one gets over it. if the OP attacked the bouncer then thats a different story and would be a good reason for a lifetime bann.