Hurling All Stars 2012

Badabing

With 1 game to go is it all tied up who will get them? Has Tommy Walsh got his 10th in a row? Shefflin done enough for 11? Cummins for Goalkeeper? I would say yes to all the above. Michael Fennelly if he has a good All Ireland Final might get in same with Damien Hayes maybe.

MrJoeSoap

I'll go first... ready to be slaughtered!

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Maguire

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Moore

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Delaney

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Coen

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T.Walsh

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B.Hogan

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K.Moran

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Tannion

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P.Cronin

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Shefflin

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D.Burke

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TJ Reid

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Mullane

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Canning

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N.McGrath

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Dublin:1
Galway:5
Kilkenny:5
Tipperary:1
Cork:1
Waterford:2

Plenty of possible changes there, very hard to leave out Patrick Horgan, Pa Bourke, Bonner Maher, Niall Moran and a few others.

phkk

Cummins
Moore Delaney Cahill
Walsh Hogan Coen
Fennelly Moran
Burke Reid Fogarty
Hayes Canning Horgan

Kojak

The All-Stars (in both hurling and football) is heavily weighted in favour of the 2 teams who play in the final - players who may (on paper) not be as good as lads who play for the semi-finalists or 1/4 finalists more often than not get the nod due to the fact that they played in the final. Its not fair, but how long have we being saying that?

For example TJ Reid seems to be a near certainty for an All-Star, yet he was barely making the KK team up until Richie Hogan got himself sent off against Limerick. If Cyril Donnellan has a very good final, he could well be an All-Star - he was Galway's most consistent performer up until the semi-final.

jossnjuice

If johnny Coen doesnt get an all star this year, ill lose what little faith i have in that judging panel.

Fantastic against KK and IMHO, better against Cork because of the scrap involved in it.

premierstone

jossnjuice wrote: »

If johnny Coen doesnt get an all star this year, ill lose what little faith i have in that judging panel.

Fantastic against KK and IMHO, better against Cork because of the scrap involved in it.

Johnny has had an amazing debut season, should have an all star and YHOTY sewn up, but one thing I would disagree with you here, he's performance against KK was way way ahead of that against Cork, against Cork he had a marvellous second half, he actually struggled in the first half, against KK it was 70 mins of near perfection.

ft9

Aidan Fogarty will get one if he has a decent All Ireland.

Fireball07

I hope Graham Mul gets in. Limerick's standout forward comfortably, tortured the Tipperary full-back line, was brilliant against the likes of Antrim and Laois...had a quiet enough game against Clare but was good again against Kilkenny, should have had a goal.

Donadea Leo

Cummins
Coen Delaney Cahill
Moran Hogan

Tyrell
Corbett Walsh

Bourke

Reid Hayes
Burke Bonner Maher Fogarty
Shefflin Canning Donnelan

Diabhal Beag

Can't see Maguire or Cummins getting in ahead of Herity TBH.

Wonder if Galway beat KK again would Niall Donohue get in ahead of Tommy Walsh?

adrian522

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Can't see Maguire or Cummins getting in ahead of Herity TBH.

Wonder if Galway beat KK again would Niall Donohue get in ahead of Tommy Walsh?

Herity? Not a hope I don't think. Completely at fault for the Tipp Goal on Sunday and Kilkenny have been leaking soft-ish goals all year.

locked

tommy walsh is behind niall donohue for all star this year unless he really improves in final

ReacherCreature

For Tipp I reckon Bonner Maher will get one. Possibly Noel McGrath. Paudie Maher and Conor O' Mahony were having great years but their stock slipped in the last game.

Not sure why you've put in Gary Maguire there MrJoeSoap?

Local_Chap

What is with the love for Cummins. I know he's a good keeper, but when a goalie concedes 4 goals in an All-Ireland semi-final I cant see him getting an All-star. Should of done better for Fogartys goal aswell. I wouldnt be surprised to see Nash from Cork or O'Keffee from Waterford get it. There hasn't really been any standout keepers this year

Fireball07

Donadea Leo wrote: »

Cummins
Coen Delaney Cahill
Moran Hogan

Tyrell
Corbett Walsh

Bourke

Reid Hayes
Burke Bonner Maher Fogarty
Shefflin Canning Donnelan

18 players is an interesting format??

Toblerone1978

Kojak wrote: »

The All-Stars (in both hurling and football) is heavily weighted in favour of the 2 teams who play in the final - players who may (on paper) not be as good as lads who play for the semi-finalists or 1/4 finalists more often than not get the nod due to the fact that they played in the final. Its not fair, but how long have we being saying that?

But surely more weight should be given to those who plays well in the bigger matches. The fact that they may be there because of the misfortune of injuries on other should have no bearing, I say fair play to them for making the most of the opportunity.

Toblerone1978

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Can't see Maguire or Cummins getting in ahead of Herity TBH.

On what basis! To me, it has to be Maguire. He pulled off some great saves against us, as he did against Clare.

Despite what Lar may try to think, I think everyone agrees that KK gifted Tipp a goal on Sunday, it wasn't due to their tactics.

Diabhal Beag

Toblerone1978 wrote: »

On what basis! To me, it has to be Maguire. He pulled off some great saves against us, as he did against Clare.

Can't see them giving it to somebody who didn't get into the final round of qualifiers, let alone quarter-finals. At least Herity, although dodgy for the Tipp goal, has a chance to redeem himself come the 9th (hopefully he won't). Skehill could get it if he has a good match too.

closeline

Nash is the keeper.

Coen, Delaney, Moore, Donoghue, Hogan for Defence..

Canning, Burke, Fogarty, TJ Reid, Hayes certainties for forward.

cgpg5

If John Mullane doesn't get one it's criminal. Fine he only played 3 games but was outstanding in all 3. Does some simply incredible things in every game.

MrJoeSoap

Fireball07 wrote: »

I hope Graham Mul gets in. Limerick's standout forward comfortably, tortured the Tipperary full-back line, was brilliant against the likes of Antrim and Laois...had a quiet enough game against Clare but was good again against Kilkenny, should have had a goal.

I know I didn't pick him in my team but I'll stand behind this 100%. An absolutely smashing player with a serious future. Class act.

Donadea Leo

Fireball07 wrote: »

18 players is an interesting format??

Sorry given what happened on Sunday I was trying to be funny putting tyrell, corbett, walsh and Bourke in one position but didn't quite display the way I had hoped. Been honest can't see any of them getting one.

phkk

I picked my team on a rush yesterday and totally forgot about John Mullane- he's a certainty to get one

Badabing

JJ Delaney was motm in last years All Ireland and didn't get an All Star so even having a great game doesn't guarantee an All Star.

MrJoeSoap

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Not sure why you've put in Gary Maguire there MrJoeSoap?

Made some of the best saves of the Championship, against Laois and two against Kilkenny. Didn't really put a foot wrong all year (I still consider the Laois goal a fluke). I don't see why he wouldn't be considered.

Brendan Cummins and David Herity have had some very dodgy moments this year, Nash would be a contender (will probably get it I'd say) as would Quaid. Couldn't really give it to James Skehill after conceding 9 goals in Leinster. O'Keeffe looks a decent keeper and made some good stops, but I wouldn't have him up there with Nash, Quaid or Maguire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT0OSGxtvYQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMO7ICkrLg

Mountainlad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W56UaJKA7e8

3.16 and 5.20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erPMWDK8TJ0

28 seconds when Prendergast runs onto the ball, an example of O'Keeffe's unrivalled distribution this year. 20.49 is another save.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlOwC8wWzvE

First incident of the match. Arguably save of the year. Thought it was a save when I saw it on the day but replayes made me think it might have hit the crossbar. It definitely didn't though because you can hear the sound of the sliotar hitting his hurley.

He's definitely been the best keeper this year, the only makr against him was a bit of naivety in the air that led to a goal for Shane Bourke in the Munster Final.

Maguire hasn't a hope of getting it. While they were good saves, if there was anything to play for, Shefflin passes the second one into Larkin and it's a guaranteed goal.

All this said, I'm certain Nash will get it as Cork's token all-star. Scoring a goal and long range frees will count for a lot more than it should.


The final will change selections a lot. This what I'm going to assume for now:

1.Anthony Nash
2.Paul Murphy
3.Fergal Moore
4.Jackie Tyrell
5.Padraic Maher
6.Brian Hogan
7.Johnny Coen
8.Kevin Moran
9.Iarla Tannian
10.David Burke
11.Bonner Maher
12.Henry Shefflin
13.Taggy Fogarty
14.Joe Canning
15.John Mullane

Kilkenny: 5
Galway: 5
Tipp: 2
Waterford: 2
Cork: 1

Very much so a provisional line-up.

Tyrell could still lose out at corner back if he had a dodgy final, he was poor against Galway.

I have Maher in because I haven't forgotten the Munster Championship, but I do think that Walsh and Donoghue have every chance if they play well in the final.

Kevin Moran would probably be there on merit in midfield, but I'm not sure that he'll stay there. I look at the other teams and it's hard to pick a midfield. Rice has hardly played and looks like he'll miss the final, Fennelly haas been pretty good in two games and if he had a good final would be a certainty but until then I'll hold off on that. Would pick Tannian over Smith from Galway.

David Burke is a great player, thought he was in with a shout for young player las year until Galway we were anonymous against Waterford. Bonner Maher is worth his place in my opinion. Shefflin was a big part in winning the Limerick game, and he was more visible than any other forward against Galway. A good final and he'll be in for sure.

Fogarty did well against Limerick, and was man of the match the other day (even if I'd have given it to Reid). Canning may as well get his all-star now. Mullane I'm not certain on but I was finding it hard to pick another forward, and I do think that while he actually hasn't been a corner forward, he's been excellent this year in a much changed role. Could have maybe gone with one of the Limerick forwards, but I don't think they'll get an all-star.

Any one of T.J. Reid, Damien Hayes, Tommy Walsh, Niall Donoghue, Michael Fennelly could be in with a good final.

David Collins, Niall Burke, Andy Smith and Colin Fennelly would need an outstanding final I think to get one.

TheNap

At the moment

1. Nash

2. Moore
3. Delaney
4. Murphy

5. Bugler
6. Hogan
7. Coen

8. Moran
9. It will be one of Smith/Tannian/Fennelly

10. Mullane
11. Donnellan
12. Burke

13. Fogarty
14. Canning
15. Hayes



All could change after the final

aidan24326

Can't understand the lads that are picking Tommy Walsh. He has not had a good year by his standards. Had a very tough day at the office against Galway and then Sunday you had the Lar nonsense which though not his fault it still curbed his influence. He'll need a very big game in the final to be in contention imo. He is well capable of delivering that big performance though.

MrJoeSoap

TheNap wrote: »

At the moment

1. Nash

2. Moore
3. Delaney
4. Murphy

5. Bugler
6. Hogan
7. Coen

8. Moran
9. It will be one of Smith/Tannian/Fennelly

10. Mullane
11. Donnellan
12. Burke

13. Fogarty
14. Canning
15. Hayes



All could change after the final

Bugler is a very good shout, was very impressed with him this year.

premierstone

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Skehill could get it if he has a good match too.

Ah here now, your surely taking the piss, he has conceeded more goals than any other keeper mentioned here and hasn't made a single save of note, he is actually imo hte weakest intercounty senior keeper at the moment and teone of the reasons Galway wont win the AI.

cgpg5 wrote: »

If John Mullane doesn't get one it's criminal. Fine he only played 3 games but was outstanding in all 3. Does some simply incredible things in every game.

Huge Mullane fan and think he has never received the credit he deserves but I actually thought he has had much better years than this year, he was very poor in the second half of the munster final when the chips were down, he scored three points against Clare marking a guy who actually doesnt know how to hold the hurl properly and two point against Cork, nothing wrong with does stats but I dont necessarily think they merit an all star, a nomination for sure.

Mountainlad

premierstone wrote: »

Ah here now, your surely taking the piss, he has conceeded more goals than any other keeper mentioned here and hasn't made a single save of note, he is actually imo hte weakest intercounty senior keeper at the moment and teone of the reasons Galway wont win the AI.




Huge Mullane fan and think he has never received the credit he deserves but I actually thought he has had much better years than this year, he was very poor in the second half of the munster final when the chips were down, he scored three points against Clare marking a guy who actually doesnt know how to hold the hurl properly and two point against Cork, nothing wrong with does stats but I dont necessarily think they merit an all star, a nomination for sure.

Agree on Skehill, worth remembering his awful blunder against Offaly too. Goalkeeper is a token all-star, and I think it's Nash's although maybe Cummins will get it but I think Fogarty's goal will stand against him.

To be fair the quality of ball in, in the second half of the Munster final was shocking. He instigated the Waterford revival against Cork too, even if it wasn't enough to win us the match. He has of course had better years, but as things stand I'd just about have him in there. It all depends on the final.

premierstone

Mountainlad wrote: »

Agree on Skehill, worth remembering his awful blunder against Offaly too. Goalkeeper is a token all-star, and I think it's Nash's although maybe Cummins will get it but I think Fogarty's goal will stand against him.

To be fair the quality of ball in, in the second half of the Munster final was shocking. He instigated the Waterford revival against Cork too, even if it wasn't enough to win us the match. He has of course had better years, but as things stand I'd just about have him in there. It all depends on the final.

Haven't been able to watch a replay of the match Sunday thought at the time alright it was a massive blunder by Cummins, but I heard suggestions since that the ball took a deflection off O'Mahony's hurl which wrong footed him??

Agree that the ball into Mullane was poor and he had very little support, but I'm afraid all star selectors don't seem to take such trivial matters into consideration!!

Mountainlad

premierstone wrote: »

Haven't been able to watch a replay of the match Sunday thought at the time alright it was a massive blunder by Cummins, but I heard suggestions since that the ball took a deflection off O'Mahony's hurl which wrong footed him??

Agree that the ball into Mullane was poor and he had very little support, but I'm afraid all star selectors don't seem to take such trivial matters into consideration!!

Ah no I don't think so. Cyril Farrell suggested there was a lot of spin on it, but Cummins parried it into the net.

Haha yeah this is true, but Mullane is a much higher profile than he was, he got a lot of positive media attention in 2009.

ReacherCreature

Sometimes stats in hurling don't mean the whole story. When Mullane dropped back into mid/half forward line vs. Cork, I thought he was very influential. He drove and directed Waterford's attack. Had they won, he may have received more attention.

Fergus_Nash

Well it's time to open this up again. A tough year I believe to pick All Stars. But here is mine.

1. Nash (Cork)
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. JJ Delaney (Kilkenny)
4. Johnny Coen (Galway)
5. Tommy Walsh (Kilkenny)
6. Brian Hogan (Kilkenny)
7. Pauric Maher (Tipperary)
8. Iarla Tannian (Galway)
9. I don't know.
10. Noel McGrath (Tipperary)
11. Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny)
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
13. John Mullane (Waterford)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)

Goalkeeper, both wing backs, midfield, right side of attack all up for grabs.

Shefflin to win Player of the Year for the year that's in it.

cgpg5

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Well it's time to open this up again. A tough year I believe to pick All Stars. But here is mine.

1. Nash (Cork)
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. JJ Delaney (Kilkenny)
4. Johnny Coen (Galway)
5. Tommy Walsh (Kilkenny)
6. Brian Hogan (Kilkenny)
7. Pauric Maher (Tipperary)
8. Iarla Tannian (Galway)
9. I don't know.
10. Noel McGrath (Tipperary)
11. Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny)
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
13. John Mullane (Waterford)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)

Goalkeeper, both wing backs, midfield, right side of attack all up for grabs.

Shefflin to win Player of the Year for the year that's in it.

I'd give Moore 4 Coen 5 and leave out T Walsh

Fergus_Nash

Fair enough. Should have mentioned that Galway deserves more forwards.

cgpg5

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Fair enough. Should have mentioned that Galway deserves more forwards.

Funnily enough even if they'd lost the first game I'd imagine David Burke would have been a shoe in. Despite his two goals today he did nothing else and was poor overall in the two games. You could nearly say the same for Donnellan and Hayes!

At 9 Andy Smith is an option

dastardly00

What I've settled on so far....

1. Anthony Nash (Cork)
2. Johnny Coen (Galway)
3. JJ Delaney (KK)
4. Paul Murphy (KK)
5. ??
6. Brian Hogan (KK)
7. ??
8. Iarla Tannion (Galway)
9. ??
10. TJ Reid (KK)
11. Henry Shefflin (KK)
12. Pa Burke (Tipp)
13. John Mullane (Waterford)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. ??

Kojak

dastardly00 wrote: »

What I've settled on so far....

1. Anthony Nash (Cork)
2. Johnny Coen (Galway)
3. JJ Delaney (KK)
4. Paul Murphy (KK)
5. ??
6. Brian Hogan (KK)
7. ??
8. Iarla Tannion (Galway)
9. ??
10. TJ Reid (KK)
11. Henry Shefflin (KK)
12. Pa Burke (Tipp)
13. John Mullane (Waterford)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. ??

The All Star selection this year doesn't seem to be as "nailed on" as previous years. Maybe one of the wing forward positions could go to David burke or Donnellan from Galway, with Shefflin going to number 15 (ala The team of the year from the sunday game)

Frankly, I would be surprised if Tommy Walsh got an All-Star - don't get me wrong, excellent player, but had one of his poorest years's (by his standards) in his career. Number 5 was for Brendan Bugler from Clare (on that TSG team of the year) and Pa Cronin was No. 9 on that team as well.

Does that suggest that some of the positions on the teams were not as important this year as other years? Galway with their mass defence thing, more or less, cut out hugh fielding play for their half backs. None could be honeslty considered an All star reciepiant.

What could happen, like what happens most year's, is that people (say Jackie Tyrell for example) would be moved to another line of the field to gain an award, due to the fact that there were no real stand out candidates in that position in the first place.

ellinguistico

Kojak wrote: »

The All Star selection this year doesn't seem to be as "nailed on" as previous years. Maybe one of the wing forward positions could go to David burke or Donnellan from Galway, with Shefflin going to number 15 (ala The team of the year from the sunday game)

Frankly, I would be surprised if Tommy Walsh got an All-Star - don't get me wrong, excellent player, but had one of his poorest years's (by his standards) in his career. Number 5 was for Brendan Bugler from Clare (on that TSG team of the year) and Pa Cronin was No. 9 on that team as well.

Does that suggest that some of the positions on the teams were not as important this year as other years? Galway with their mass defence thing, more or less, cut out hugh fielding play for their half backs. None could be honeslty considered an All star reciepiant.

What could happen, like what happens most year's, is that people (say Jackie Tyrell for example) would be moved to another line of the field to gain an award, due to the fact that there were no real stand out candidates in that position in the first place.

Proud Kilkenny man chirping in just one point. Tommy is a genius hurler but he is nowhere next or near an all-star this year.

Fergus_Nash

I am going to say that I won't be too surprised if Walsh does get an All Star. He doesn't deserve it, but it could be justified and the selectors will probably want the record of ten All Stars in a row to stay intact.

JBG2011

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

I am going to say that I won't be too surprised if Walsh does get an All Star. He doesn't deserve it, but it could be justified and the selectors will probably want the record of ten All Stars in a row to stay intact.

You may well be right. Tommy probably doesn't deserve an All Star this year. He was terrible in the LF and there was really only one quintessential "Tommy Walsh" display all year and that was in the first half against Limerick. What happened in the Tipp game wasn't his fault.

He's been still reasonably good bar the Leinster Final but not really All Star good. However, never underestimate the value of a Roy of the Rovers story which the sponsors will love. 10 consecutive All Stars sounds very good from a sponsor's point of view.

There hasn't been that many truly outstanding wing back performances this year but loads of great full back and corner back displays and it would be unfair to only pick 3 from Delaney, Coen, Murphy and Moore. Pick the first three and give Moore an All Star at half back.

TheNap

1. Nash

2. Murphy
3. Delaney
4. Coen

5. Bugler
6. Hogan
7. Moran

8. Tannian
9. Smith

10. Reid
11. Shefflin
12. Mullane

13. Hogan
14. Canning
15. O'Brien

MrJoeSoap

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

I'll go first... ready to be slaughtered!

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Maguire

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Moore

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Delaney

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Coen

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T.Walsh

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B.Hogan

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K.Moran

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Tannion

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P.Cronin

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Shefflin

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D.Burke

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TJ Reid

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Mullane

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Canning

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N.McGrath

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Dublin:1
Galway:5
Kilkenny:5
Tipperary:1
Cork:1
Waterford:2

Plenty of possible changes there, very hard to leave out Patrick Horgan, Pa Bourke, Bonner Maher, Niall Moran and a few others.

Sunday Game went with...

1. Anthony Nash
2. Paul Murphy
3. JJ Delaney
4. Johnny Coen
5. Brendan Bugler
6. Brian Hogan
7. Kevin Moran
8. Iarla Tannion
9. Pa Cronin
10. David Burke
11. TJ Reid
12. Pa Bourke
13. John Mullane
14. Joe Canning
15. Henry Shefflin

Cork 2
Kilkenny 5
Galway 4
Clare 1
Waterford 2
Tipp 1

They agree with me on 11 of the 15 anyway, and after the two finals I would have had Murphy ahead of Moore at No.2. To be fair to myself, I probably would have put Bugler in there ahead of Walsh after I posted the initial team, had forgotten him.

What a full-forward line that is.

randd1

I'd go with:

1. Nash (Cork)

2. Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. Delaney (Kilkenny)
4. Coen (Galway)

5. Bugler (Clare)
6. Hogan (Kilkenny)
7. Moran (Waterford)

8. Tannion (Galway)
9. Smith (Galway)

10. Reid (Kilkenny)
11. Maher (Tipperary)
12. Burke (Galway)

13. Hogan (Kilkenny)
14. Canning (Galway)
15. Shefflin (Kilkenny)

Honourable mentions to Moore (Galway), Molumphy (Waterford), Horgan (Cork), Hannon (Limerick), Walsh (Kilkenny), P Maher (Tipp), Pa Bourke (Tipp), Mullane (Waterford), O'Hailpin (Cork) and Dowling (Limerick)

Mountainlad

randd1 wrote: »

I'd go with:

1. Nash (Cork)

2. Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. Delaney (Kilkenny)
4. Coen (Galway)

5. Bugler (Clare)
6. Hogan (Kilkenny)
7. Moran (Waterford)

8. Tannion (Galway)
9. Smith (Galway)

10. Reid (Kilkenny)
11. Maher (Tipperary)
12. Burke (Galway)

13. Hogan (Kilkenny)
14. Canning (Galway)
15. Shefflin (Kilkenny)

Honourable mentions to Moore (Galway), Molumphy (Waterford), Horgan (Cork), Hannon (Limerick), Walsh (Kilkenny), P Maher (Tipp), Pa Bourke (Tipp), Mullane (Waterford), O'Hailpin (Cork) and Dowling (Limerick)

Richie Hogan? Really?

I'd move Moran to midfield, take out Smith, and put in Padraig Maher. I'd have Mullane in the corner probably as well, don't think Richie Hogan did enough. Other than that it's pretty much what I'd pick. Missed Clare's games against Dublin and Limerick so I don't really know how good Bugler was. If he doesn't get it, think Niall Donohue has been very good.

Really don't see what other people saw in Pa Bourke. He had good games against Limerick and Cork, but he was awful against Waterford and really the goal he got against Kilkenny was fortuitous, wasn't in that game either (I'd forgive given how Tipp were in general, but I wouldn't give him an all-star)

JBG2011

Some positions are not that clear cut as there were a few places where there was no standout performer all year. So in that instance I've moved around players who deserve recognition.

1. Skehill (Galway): Not a vintage year at all for goalies. Cummins is unquestionably the best, but he didn't have a great year. Skehill made the most important save of the summer in the drawn game and his puckouts were vital all year.
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny).
3. JJ Delaney (Kilkenny).
4. Johnny Coen (Galway).
5. Fergal Moore (Galway).
6. Brian Hogan (Kilkenny).
7. Kieran Joyce (Kilkenny).
8. Andy Smyth (Galway).
9. Iarla Tannion (Galway).
10. TJ Reid (Kilkenny).
11. Niall Burke (Galway).
12. Pa Cronin/Pa Bourke/John Mullane.
13. Damien Hayes (Galway)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny).

Funnily enough I've given 8 AS to Galway and KK only 6, but the reason for this is that Kilkenny had a number of inconsistent performers and some players like Walter Walsh only played 1 match. Taggy Fogarty and Richie Hogan had inconsistent summers: Hogan was excellent yesterday but was played out of position in the drawn match and was suspended for the Tipp rout. Fogarty was terrific in the Limerick and Tipp games but played little meaningful part in the 2 All Irelands. Richie Power had a quiet enough summer. Ditto Eoin Larkin, although he improved dramatically yesterday.

I've only left one position for a token non finalist and find that hard to call. It could easily have been Larkin, Hogan, Fogarty, Donnellan or D. Burke.

Mountainlad

JBG2011 wrote: »

Some positions are not that clear cut as there were a few places where there was no standout performer all year. So in that instance I've moved around players who deserve recognition.

1. Skehill (Galway): Not a vintage year at all for goalies. Cummins is unquestionably the best, but he didn't have a great year. Skehill made the most important save of the summer in the drawn game and his puckouts were vital all year.
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny).
3. JJ Delaney (Kilkenny).
4. Johnny Coen (Galway).
5. Fergal Moore (Galway).
6. Brian Hogan (Kilkenny).
7. Kieran Joyce (Kilkenny).
8. Andy Smyth (Galway).
9. Iarla Tannion (Galway).
10. TJ Reid (Kilkenny).
11. Niall Burke (Galway).
12. Pa Cronin/Pa Bourke/John Mullane.
13. Damien Hayes (Galway)
14. Joe Canning (Galway)
15. Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny).

Funnily enough I've given 8 AS to Galway and KK only 6, but the reason for this is that Kilkenny had a number of inconsistent performers and some players like Walter Walsh only played 1 match. Taggy Fogarty and Richie Hogan had inconsistent summers: Hogan was excellent yesterday but was played out of position in the drawn match and was suspended for the Tipp rout. Fogarty was terrific in the Limerick and Tipp games but played little meaningful part in the 2 All Irelands. Richie Power had a quiet enough summer. Ditto Eoin Larkin, although he improved dramatically yesterday.

I've only left one position for a token non finalist and find that hard to call. It could easily have been Larkin, Hogan, Fogarty, Donnellan or D. Burke.

Jesus christ, did you watch any games other than the Galway v Kilkenny matches?

Utopia Parkway

Mountainlad wrote: »

Jesus christ, did you watch any games other than the Galway v Kilkenny matches?

In fairness KK and Galway will probably make up 12 or 13 of the actual All-Star team. Just the way it goes.

Martin567

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

In fairness KK and Galway will probably make up 12 or 13 of the actual All-Star team. Just the way it goes.

I agree. Kilkenny & Galway have been some distance ahead of everyone else this year. I would be very surprised if there are more than two selections from all the other counties combined.