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Would you watch this?

  • 22-08-2012 7:46am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/aug/21/tony-scott-suicide-footage

    someone recorded footage of Tony Scott jumping off the bridge and now they're trying to flog it to de'media

    I don't know if I would, like I might... I dunno, it's like when you drive by a bad accident, you shouldn't look but you usually end up having a peek.
    It's like that film/doc from a few years ago about the suicides off the Golden Gate bridge, I think I watched about 2 minutes of it before I'd had enough, it was just too sad.


    Mods, can you add a question mark to the title? Opps


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    i probably would, i watched the documentary the bridge, it is pretty strange to look at but after a while its not as shocking


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If it was part of a sensitive documentary on suicide maybe, but if it was some shock porn on some entertainment programme no. The fact these ghouls are trying to sell to the highest bidder just makes it very very shabby.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If it was part of a sensitive documentary on suicide maybe, but if it was some shock porn on some entertainment programme no. The fact these ghouls are trying to sell to the highest bidder just makes it very very shabby.

    yes, good point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Yes I would watch it, Of course suitable warnings before hand should be listed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    After all the horrifying gore the internet has exposed me to over the years I would consider myself desensitized enough to masturbate to it.
    This is not a proud boast [unzips].


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I tried to watch the bridge before. Had to stop after about 10/15 minutes mainly because I felt incredibly uneasy about how they were speaking of people close to them who jumped, more so then the clips of people jumping.

    I'd never want to see anything showing someone dying regardless of the circumstances since though. The very thought of such a clip being sold off is rather heartless, IMO. Particularly to mass media who can end up playing it through a few times. It's not needed at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Whats the rating on it? Is it better than Top Gun as I was goinf to watch that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭mr.jingle


    It was only a matter of time before a famous person was caught on camera killing themselves. What sort of person tries to sell this stuff to the news. Bloody Americans money mad no respect all them videos should be deleted and never seen by anyone outside of the family or investigators


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Ted!


    No, no I wouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    A clearly distressed and disturbed man tumbling to his death wouldn't appeal to me tbh.
    Maybe I'm just weird though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Plumpynutt


    Real Life wrote: »
    i probably would, i watched the documentary the bridge, it is pretty strange to look at but after a while its not as shocking


    Great documentary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Neither would I. The voyeuristic nature of some people today has gone a step too far imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    After watching '3guys, 1 hammer' (if you haven't seen it, DON'T!) i reckon that a bridge jump would be easy watching. The internet is a dark place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    I've watched some suicide vids out of morbid curiousity. It's very very sad to see normal looking people just jump over the side of a bridge.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    mr.jingle wrote: »
    It was only a matter of time before a famous person was caught on camera killing themselves.
    It's happened before and more graphically. Back in the 70's a US politician shot himself in the head at a press conference. Fcuking awful.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    What's more sad is not footage of Scott jumping to his death but of the person flogging this footage off and looking to make a profit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Lollers


    Nah, it just doesn't feel right, watching a person in terrible mental anguish, ending their life in such a tragic way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Real Life wrote: »
    i probably would, i watched the documentary the bridge, it is pretty strange to look at but after a while its not as shocking

    I read an article once about people who had jumped from some bridge (i think it was the golden gate, but it was a good while back so i'm not sure) and survived - every one of them changed their mind the very second they jumped. I think very few people actually want to die when it comes right down to the nitty gritty. It's very sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    What's more sad is not footage of Scott jumping to his death but of the person flogging this footage off and looking to make a profit.

    I don't know about that - is this not basically what sky news or cnn and their ilk does? News is big business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I don't know about that - is this not basically what sky news or cnn and their ilk does? News is big business.

    They do, and it doesn't make them any better for fighting against each other to be the one who secures the footage first.

    Regardless what happens, this footage will likely wind up on the web anyways.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    After watching '3guys, 1 hammer' (if you haven't seen it, DON'T!) i reckon that a bridge jump would be easy watching. The internet is a dark place!

    Damn you! Now I want to watch this. Just tell me it's pain related and not some sex thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭AwayWithFaries


    Wibbs wrote: »
    It's happened before and more graphically. Back in the 70's a US politician shot himself in the head at a press conference. Fcuking awful.

    Someone showed me this once. It's not pleasant, I was quite disturbed after watching it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Damn you! Now I want to watch this. Just tell me it's pain related and not some sex thing.
    IT's a video of 2 guys from the Ukraine (i think) who kill a guy in the woods with a hammer. They then take a screwdriver to his eyes and abdomen.
    I can skin and gut a rabbit without blinking an eye, but watching that video was horribly disturbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Someone showed me this once. It's not pleasant, I was quite disturbed after watching it.
    As far as I know, it's on youtube, which I was kinda surprised by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Galwayguy20


    Damn you! Now I want to watch this. Just tell me it's pain related and not some sex thing.

    It's a video of three guys murdering another one with a hammer. I had to turn it off, it's up there with those videos of people being beheaded by terrorists. Definitely not recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭AwayWithFaries


    As far as I know, it's on youtube, which I was kinda surprised by.

    Yeah it's on youtube. Didn't think they allowed that kinda stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    What would you have to gain from watching something like that though seriously. Anyone who would watch it has issues imo. It must be awful for his family knowing that his last moments come at a price. If the person who took the footage has any morals he'd delete it but since he taped it to start with he's shown no care for the family left behind mourning the loss of a loved one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭Simply Red


    For anyone considering watching that 3 guys 1 hammer video, do yourself a favour and dont, youll regret it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    If you think about this a little differently - what if the guy selling the video is facing serious financial problems and thinking of suicide himself.

    This video will ease his problems and could save his life.

    (he's probably just an asshole though)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    9/11 springs to mind and I am sure most of yis watched the footage from it, those poor souls did not want to die but it was plastered everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Diapason


    I don't have the mentality for this kind of thing at all, I just find it far too upsetting. Even something as tame as "When Stunts go Bad" haunted me for days. Footage of people dying is not for me.
    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    After all the horrifying gore the internet has exposed me to over the years I would consider myself desensitized enough to masturbate to it.
    This is not a proud boast [unzips].

    I LOL'ed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    IT's a video of 2 guys from the Ukraine (i think) who kill a guy in the woods with a hammer. They then take a screwdriver to his eyes and abdomen.
    I can skin and gut a rabbit without blinking an eye, but watching that video was horribly disturbing.

    I can watch odd freaky things on the net i have a strong stomach. In fact I have logged into the Young news channel "the YNC" manys the time a lot of off-beat videos there.

    But that 2 guys 1 hammer.... Wow i actually pulled the wire out of the pc i was that freaked out by it. Never witnessed such acts in my life:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    I tried to watch the bridge before. Had to stop after about 10/15 minutes mainly because I felt incredibly uneasy about how they were speaking of people close to them who jumped, more so then the clips of people jumping.
    /QUOTE]

    Haven;t watched it but apparently the maker of the bridge didn't tell the relatives he had footages of their deaths*.

    Though I wouldn;t watch it myself I can;t see why it shouldn;t be allowed considering im sure "the bridge" was financially beneficial for its makers. And in relation to one being art and the other being exploitation whats the difference, he could sell the footage (possibly adding some post production filters e.g colorize him and grey washout for the rest of it) and hire a philosophy/arts grad to write a 1000 word blurb and suddenly it would be 'art'.

    * I'd also argue that the makers of the bridge were more complicit as even though they were trained in suicide prevention this was not their role and they set out to capture this footage over a period of a year and in effect if they had prevented every suicide they would have failed. An example of how a fairly small group of volunteers can make a major difference in reducing these types of deaths is Foyle Search and Rescue in Derry.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Haven;t watched it but apparently the maker of the bridge didn't tell the relatives he had footages of their deaths*.

    Though I wouldn;t watch it myself I can;t see why it shouldn;t be allowed considering im sure "the bridge" was financially beneficial for its makers. And in relation to one being art and the other being exploitation whats the difference, he could sell the footage (possibly adding some post production filters e.g colorize him and grey washout for the rest of it) and hire a philosophy/arts grad to write a 1000 word blurb and suddenly it would be 'art'.

    * I'd also argue that the makers of the bridge were more complicit as even though they were trained in suicide prevention this was not their role and they set out to capture this footage over a period of a year and in effect if they had prevented every suicide they would have failed. An example of how a fairly small group of volunteers can make a major difference in reducing these types of deaths is Foyle Search and Rescue in Derry.

    Bloody hell that's low. Not quite sure what I was originally expecting from it now as it was quite some time ago when I gave it a look, but seeing that there now, I would never have been interested in it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    9/11 springs to mind and I am sure most of yis watched the footage from it, those poor souls did not want to die but it was plastered everywhere.
    9/11 was completely different. It was a terrorist attack and yes people jumped from the Twin Towers out of desperation but we all were glued to our screens out of utter disbelief that such a thing could happen. Tony Scott was just diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour so he probably didn't want to be a burden on his family with it. It's just awful that his death had to be taped at all and that he wasn't able to die without such a gross invasion of privacy.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No, I wouldn't.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    KKkitty wrote: »
    9/11 was completely different. It was a terrorist attack and yes people jumped from the Twin Towers out of desperation but we all were glued to our screens out of utter disbelief that such a thing could happen. Tony Scott was just diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour so he probably didn't want to be a burden on his family with it. It's just awful that his death had to be taped at all and that he wasn't able to die without such a gross invasion of privacy.

    Appearently that's not been confirmed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    I wouldn't watch it.

    Even today, as near as dammit to 11 years after 9/11, I STILL get upset seeing the odd clip of people falling from the towers.

    There aren't too many of them broadcast anymore but you still see them on the likes of Discovery channel and so on in those "i was there" type documentary's.



    I certainly wouldn't want to watch something like Tony Scott (or anyone) jumping to their deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    KKkitty wrote: »
    9/11 was completely different. It was a terrorist attack and yes people jumped from the Twin Towers out of desperation but we all were glued to our screens out of utter disbelief that such a thing could happen. Tony Scott was just diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour so he probably didn't want to be a burden on his family with it. It's just awful that his death had to be taped at all and that he wasn't able to die without such a gross invasion of privacy.

    Appearently that's not been confirmed.
    Just going by what The Sun said yesterday. Hardly a reputable source I know but if a terminal illness was the reason he did what he did it was probably the only thing he could do so as I said he wouldn't be a burden on his family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    I'd be more upset watching the people jumping from the twin towers because they were fighting for their lives in a desperate situation rather than choosing to end their lives. Not that this is not a sad situation.

    I think it's the people who film something like this rather, than the people who watch, who have the issues. There's an element of human curiosity in watching - death is such a mystery for all of us. Filming it and making it available online is wrong though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 st3veebee


    The Scott family denied that illness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    IT's a video of 2 guys from the Ukraine (i think) who kill a guy in the woods with a hammer. They then take a screwdriver to his eyes and abdomen.
    I can skin and gut a rabbit without blinking an eye, but watching that video was horribly disturbing.

    Thanks for the explanation. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to **** to that. Thanks for saving me valuable internet masturbation minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Aside from voyeurism or to financially profit from the distress of another human being there is no need for this to be released.

    There is nothing to gain from watching this (If anyone wants to spiel on about it being 'a shared human experience' or 'glimpse into the dark side of a persons soul' or some shíte like that they can fcuk off).

    I have seen the bridge and the hammer video. The bridge is an example of a movie maker crawling his way to fame and wealth over the bodies of dead people, the hammer video is literally a snuff video & thank god they were put down when caught. I'll be skipping this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭GastroBoy


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    After all the horrifying gore the internet has exposed me to over the years I would consider myself desensitized enough to masturbate to it.
    This is not a proud boast [unzips].

    Don't blame the internet. You should have said;

    "after all the gore that I willingly searched for and watched on the internet"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    Bloody hell that's low. Not quite sure what I was originally expecting from it now as it was quite some time ago when I gave it a look, but seeing that there now, I would never have been interested in it at all.

    There's a lot of controversy about that documentary. They got the permit to film without telling the authorities that they intended to film suicides.

    They claim they stopped several people from jumping but they filmed some people for quite a long length of time before they jumped and didn't step in. It's a powerful documentary but one I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with.


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