Tailgating and Road Rage

Party Supply Van

geneyuss wrote: »

i was referring to another poster,,, and how is it silly,,,the fact ive never had somebody crash into the back of me has nothing to do with driving skills ? idiotic statement,,
ive had many a driver almost rear-end me and have took evasive action, learn how to drive, its not just passing a silly test ya know

what happens if there is no option of an evasive maneuver, you got lucky you had an out of the situation. if you're boxed in and someone is on a collision course for you your 2.5 million miles won't count as jack

TheChizler

dan dan wrote: »

Best tactic is speed up a bit and when they are on your tail, Simply turn on your lights.
The tailgater drives on your lights at all times. They have no time to decide if its brake lights or side lights. Your red lights come on and stay on. He brakes hard,by instinct.

And possibly loses control and veers into oncoming traffic? You may not be legally responsible for that, but you sure had something to do with it. Doing something unexpected on the roads is one of the most dangerous things you can do. If anything you should slow down slowly until they overtake. No sudden actions.

geneyuss

Party Supply Van wrote: »

what happens if there is no option of an evasive maneuver, you got lucky you had an out of the situation. if you're boxed in and someone is on a collision course for you your 2.5 million miles won't count as jack

we would call that an accident then,,,, not like i would have caused/helped the case like some of the posters actions here, you have read the thread yeah??

SocSocPol

rogieop wrote: »

The big problem on motorways in ireland is the phrasing of words relating to the motorway.

People call the two lanes, the slow lane and fast lane.

for this reason people think it is ok to drive in, and stay in the right hand lane as long as they are doing 120kph.

They are not the fast and slow lanes, they are the driving lane(left) and the overtaking lane(right)

You stay in the left hand lane untill you need to overtake, once you have passed the vehicle in front you get the **** back into the left hand lane.

If people would stick to this then speed limits dont really matter.

Motorways are very straight roads, the only way to really crash on them is a collision(which wont happen if the above is applied) or something like drink driving/adverse weather etc etc.

Anyone coasting along in the right hand lane out for a drive deserves to get tailgated imo.

People use them motorways every day for work, and untill you are one of them people you cannot understand how frustrating it is.

geneyuss wrote: »

who said 25 years???? it could have been 55??? another typical boards narcissist,,, i do not suffer from road rage, nor do i need someone one this poxy site telling me how to drive,,,,read the bloody thread and stop putting words in my mouth

No, but based on that nasty rant maybe you suffer from cyber rage?:rolleyes:

hoochis

geneyuss wrote: »

who said 25 years???? it could have been 55??? another typical boards narcissist,,, i do not suffer from road rage, nor do i need someone one this poxy site telling me how to drive,,,,read the bloody thread and stop putting words in my mouth

I'm surprised you don't suffer from road rage. Doesn't take much to rise you! No need to take your anger out on boards btw. Its not such a poxy site!

Party Supply Van

geneyuss wrote: »

we would call that an accident then,,,, not like i would have caused/helped the case like some of the posters actions here, you have read the thread yeah??

of course its an accident. i was taking you up on the point you made to a previous poster who said they were in two write-offs which weren't their fault and you replied that maybe they just can't drive.

geneyuss

SocSocPol wrote: »

No, but based on that nasty rant maybe you suffer from cyber rage?:rolleyes:

another pissed poster :rolleyes:

geneyuss

Party Supply Van wrote: »

of course its an accident. i was taking you up on the point you made to a previous poster who said they were in two write-offs which weren't their fault and you replied that maybe they just can't drive.

well,,,, either that or he/she is just very unlucky,,,, whats your point?,,,that i cant drive? or are you just another behind the screen expert at everything including my life and what i say?

dirtyden

geneyuss wrote: »

who said 25 years???? it could have been 55??? another typical boards narcissist,,, i do not suffer from road rage, nor do i need someone one this poxy site telling me how to drive,,,,read the bloody thread and stop putting words in my mouth

I never said you did.

Read my post again. There are 2 separate paragraphs. One was asking you whta you do out of curiousity.

The second was a comment about myself and road rage in general.

Party Supply Van

geneyuss wrote: »

well,,,, either that or he/she is just very unlucky,,,, whats your point?,,,that i cant drive? or are you just another behind the screen expert at everything including my life and what i say?

yep unlucky. my point was as i said above, you suggesting they couldn't drive rather than believe it was a accident.
not an expert on your life at all. just taking you to task on a bs post is all

geneyuss

dirtyden wrote: »

I never said you did.

Read my post again. There are 2 separate paragraphs. One was asking you whta you do out of curiousity.

The second was a comment about myself and road rage in general.

i could be getting you confused with another poster,, thats what happens when one gets tag teamed,, i was both a truck and a taxi driver,, and 250k wasnt much
sorry,, i sould clarify,,,,hackney driver,,, not taxi,,,,,before the boards god crowd attack

geneyuss

Party Supply Van wrote: »

yep unlucky. my point was as i said above, you suggesting they couldn't drive rather than believe it was a accident.
not an expert on your life at all. just taking you to task on a bs post is all

you clearly didnt read what i was replying to,, anyhow,,no matter,, no point in reading the thread obviously

Party Supply Van

geneyuss wrote: »

you clearly didnt read what i was replying to,, anyhow,,no matter,, no point in reading the thread obviously

this is the post you replied to.

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I hate tailgaters.

Drives me ****ing nuts. Got into an altercation on the side of the road a few months back because of it.

I've been in two write-offs because of people not paying attention behind me. Neither my fault in any way before someone starts.

I can feel my blood pressure rise thinking about tailgaters which is weird because it takes quite a lot to get a rise out of me.

Fucking pricks.

geneyuss wrote: »

ive driven over 2.5 million miles and have never even had a bang ona bumper in several different jobs in cars,/vans/lorrys,,maybe your just unlucky.or maybe you just cant drive??

geneyuss

Party Supply Van wrote: »

this is the post you replied to.

and your point is what exactly?? as your gone so far off topic, explain it to us all

Mod

geneyuss, you suggested someone was a bad driver because they had been rear ended twice. That is what you were being pulled up on. You've already had a warning, now drop it.

Reindeer

I've sort of maintained that if you want to see someone's true character, watch them drive for a bit. Something about the relative impunity of hiding behind a windscreen brings out a person's nature even with very mild provocation.

Unfortunately, there's a lot more at stake than bruised egos on the road. We're all humans, and we're all on AH, which of course means we are all deeply flawed. No one can pay complete attention and drive safely 100% of the time. Eventually you will err, or someone else will err in one form or another. Not a one of us can say they are a perfect driver with any credibility or lack of delusion.

I understand the need to vent issues in AH. Traffic can be very frustrating. But, in the end, we're all in the same boat, if not the same carriageway. My main mission whilst driving is to make it to my destination unscathed. It's not to play games, or to be passive aggressive, or dangerous, or to teach others how to drive. Let someone else play their games or vent their problems, preferably on someone else. I've a life to get on with. The less you act like a target, the less chances you have of being one. Yeah, 'target' is also a metaphor.

hattoncracker

I think I only really get road rage or a v.mild form of it when I'm being tailgated because I'm a learner. I wont break a speed.limit for anything, I have my plates up, they know I am a learner and they still act the príck and try and intimidate me, etc..

I have had to pay thru the nose for lessons, EDT, etc anf everyday I drive I see people who through their actions shouldn't be on the road..

I, through no fault of my own, almost killed three kids on a horse and trap who.ran a red light the other day.. After the initial shock, and the lingering fear of gettin back behind the wheel I think things could have been worse if I had someone sniffing my arse.. Either a: I would have been too busy focusing in my rear view wondering what they were doing so.close to me and Not seen the kids til It was too late, or b: Been rear ended by that person.

Tailgating achieves nothing, I really dont understand why.people do it. It's distracting. Leave on time when you're going somewhere, I think thats a big key. If people left for where they were going on time there would b a lot.more chilled out drivers IMO.

Motorist

podgemonster wrote: »

My pet peeve is 2 lanes at a red light, one for straight on or left which turns into a bus lane, one for straight on or right.

I settle behind car on right lane if they're not indicating right. When the lights go green then they decide to throw in their indicators to turn right and stops now awaiting the traffic on the right to clear. Bástard!

That's the true test of an utter retard.

Lord TSC

I've only been driving a few months, but I still can't wrap my head round how some people see speed limits as optional. I never go over them but seem to constantly have people up my ass or overtaking me and disappearing into the distance :S

Motorist

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I've only been driving a few months, but I still can't wrap my head round how some people see speed limits as optional. I never go over them but seem to constantly have people up my ass or overtaking me and disappearing into the distance :S

Your car speedo often overreads your speed by as much as 10%. Alot of people know this. So you think you are driving bang on 120kmp/h (but it's only 108kmp/h) and you are hogging the overtaking lane for no justifiable reason - no traffic to overtake whatsoever, and that incites frustration in them. You have the opinion that you are a quasi-Garda out saving lives by holding them in this position and restricting their speed. Some assho1es driving in Audi's or BMW's will look down on your $hitty car and begin dangerously tail gating you in attempt to intimidate you. True defensive driving on your part, and basic obedience of the law would mandate that you move over to let them by. But you don't.

End result is that they overtake on the inside while giving you the finger. This creates an uncontrollable rage in your limbic system - you think they have just been breaking the speed limit, now they are performing an illegal overtake while insulting you. Now you begin tailgating them and acting crazy, and before you know it, an accident has occurred or both sides have lost their temper creating a high risk of an incident occurring.

Lots of misunderstanding on both sides, ignorance or disobedience of the law coupled with emotions. Emotions outside of inner calmness have no place in driving. Be at peace with the other drivers, even if they're complete a$sholes.

RustyNut

Motorist wrote: »

Be at peace with the other drivers, even if they're complete a$sholes.

Wise words indeed sir.

rogieop

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I've only been driving a few months, but I still can't wrap my head round how some people see speed limits as optional. I never go over them but seem to constantly have people up my ass or overtaking me and disappearing into the distance :S

Yes but some of the speed limits being set are ridiculous.

120 on the M1 which has 2 lanes, yet at times the m50 has 5 lanes and the limit is 100. its baffling.

They even reduced the limit in inner city dublin to 30kph at some places(not sure if its still in operation) that was just plain madness.

You are literally making people break the law, driving at them speeds is more dangerous because people are just getting frustrated.

Even 120k on a motorway in this country is stupid.

It should be 140k.

just because you drive at or under the limit doesnt mean you are a good driver.

Over all situal awareness makes you a good driver. And different situations call for differing driving styles/speeds.

Motorist

rogieop wrote: »

120 on the M1 which has 2 lanes, yet at times the m50 has 5 lanes and the limit is 100. its baffling.

It's 170kmp/h if you have a yellow number plate though..

Chuck Stone

geneyuss wrote: »

maybe your just unlucky.or maybe you just cant drive??

My driving is fine. Actually I'd go as far as to say my driving is of a very high standard. I have a full clean driving licence for over a deacde, no points, and no claims against me. I got a speeding ticket once for driving a light truck at 60mph when I should have been doing 55 years ago - my only ever traffic violation.

Incident one was when I slowed down behind some yellow council vehicle doing about 20 mph in a 60mph zone (it wasn't safe to overtake).... WHACK the guy behind me didn't notice that I'd slowed down. Almost drove me into the traffic coming the other way. Frightening.

Incident two was when I approached and stopped at a stop-go auto-traffic light system on a hill in Cork.... WHACK guy behind me wasn't paying attention.

Two cars written off and I was in no way responsible for either. Both cars replaced by rear-ender's insurance companies without even a question.

Motorist

Chuck Stone wrote: »

My driving is fine. Actually I'd go as far as to say my driving is of a very high standard. I have a full clean driving licence for over a deacde, no points, and no claims against me. I got a speeding ticket once for driving a light truck at 60mph when I should have been doing 55 years ago - my only ever traffic violation.

Incident one was when I slowed down behind some yellow council vehicle doing about 20 mph in a 60mph zone (it wasn't safe to overtake).... WHACK the guy behind me didn't notice that I'd slowed down. Almost drove me into the traffic coming the other way. Frightening.

Incident two was when I approached and stopped at a stop-go auto-traffic light system on a hill in Cork.... WHACK guy behind me wasn't paying attention.

Two cars written off and I was in no way responsible for either. Both cars replaced by rear-ender's insurance companies without even a question.

A truly excellent driver would be monitoring his rear view mirror constantly assessing the risk from other drivers approaching, constantly scanning for escape routes and ready to react, and would have used hazards to signal a sudden slow down in speed to inattentive drivers behind. (20mph in 60mph zone is extremely dangerous )

Chuck Stone

Motorist wrote: »

A truly excellent driver would be monitoring his rear view mirror constantly assessing the risk from other drivers approaching, constantly scanning for escape routes and ready to react, and would have used hazards to signal a sudden slow down in speed to inattentive drivers behind. (20mph in 60mph zone is extremely dangerous )

Your point is? Are you suggesting that I should bear some responsibility for two idiots who weren't paying attention?

Btw if you are trying to concentrate on everyone else's driving as much as your caricature 'truly excellent driver' then you will not drive optimally - you will drive like a paranoid fool.

Motorist

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Your point is?

We should always strive to continuously improve our driving ability and skills.

Chuck Stone

Motorist wrote: »

We should always strive to continuously improve our driving ability and skills.

I'm aware that motoring is a life-skill.

Cantona's Collars

I agree with Motorist regarding using mirrors.My pet hate is driving along & catching up on someone coasting along the middle of the road at a snails pace who never glances in their mirrors to see the tailback that has developed behind them.Result is tailgating & risky overtaking,even then some of the dipsy drivers don't even see the cars passing them.

All well & good keeping your eyes on the road but remember folks that there's also stuff behind you to watch out for.

Galwayguy35

I'm amazed every day that people always practically drive up the boot of the car when I slow down to the actual speed limit when going into a town.

Do they think I want to get points just to suit them.