2012 Cooking Club Week 33: Red Velvet Cake

Sparks

So, when you get married, you get a cake.
Unless you're the guy, in which case you get a slice of herself's cake.
Which is okay... if you like sharing cake.

I don't like sharing cake.

Happily, they've invented a new tradition in the US (or at least, new to me), of the groomscake - aka, the "feckoffI'mnotsharing" cake

So on cakeday, we had two cakes:



On the left, the traditional multilayered and decorated wedding cake (with a chocolate fudge cake hidden inside, because Herself Indoors isn't completely without taste ), and on the right, my cake. Note the relative lack of decoration, the buttercream icing, and of course, it's a big chunk of cake. This is a man's cake, ladies and gentlemen, stand clear. Hiding inside the buttercream is a layered mix of chocolate fudge cake and red velvet cake, but the red velvet was the star of this particular cake.



For those who don't know it - and more especially for those who think it's maderia cake with red food colouring - red velvet cake is one of the earliest chocolate cake recipes. It's a traditional recipe for cakes from the South in the US, where the tradition of the groomscake comes from as well. They don't do many cakes well there, but the few they do seem to be made primarily of awesome. You've probably seen red velvet cupcakes around the place of late; they've become kindof popular. Unfortunately, about half of those I've eaten have been basic sponge or maderia cake with artifical colouring and taste about as much like red velvet cake as a baked armadillo. The original red velvet cake didn't use artificial colouring at all; that cropped up during the Great Depression in the US; originally, it was just the colour of the cocoa powder reacting with the vinegar that gave a slightly red-brick hue to the cake; but these days it's added in anyway, just because it's fun. People have even been known to add in other food colouring to make things like blue velvet cake. These people are BAD and WRONG and MUST BE STOPPED.

So, the choice seemed clear as to what to do for the club this week

The downside is that I don't have photos of the process. I know, I know, but you try cooking with a 4-month-old in the kitchen. You don't get time to do it all right, and the effort went into the recipe rather than the photos. But try it - it's a lot easier than you'd think...

First up, a parts list (and I've tried to avoid anything odd or wierd here, and I'll have you know I had to bake four cakes to get this right. Hardship, that's what I go through for you lot...):

• 155g Odlums Cream Flour
• 115g Odlums Tritamyl Flour (if you can find cake flour, use it; but I couldn't, and this is a pretty solid substitute - it has the same protein content as cake flour, if not a little less. you *can* use just all cream flour... but the cake isn't so much cake as a light bread afterwards.)
• 15g Cocoa powder (the best you can get - I like the green&blacks)
• 1 tsp Baking soda (or Bread soda, or whatever your shop calls it...)
• 1/2 tsp salt
• 1 cup buttermilk
• 25ml (1 bottle) of red food colouring
• 1 tbsp vinegar (cider vinegar works well, so does rice wine and white wine vinegars; don't use balsalmic....)
• 1 tsp vanilla extract
• 300g dark brown sugar
• 114g unsalted butter (that's half a pack, usually)
• 2 large eggs and 1 yolk

You don't need a stand mixer for this, so long as you have popeye's forearms and no need to do anything else that evening. Me, I use a stand mixer.

First up though, sieve the flours (yes, you want to use both types, if you use all cream flour, the cake's more like pan forte, and if you use all tritamyl, well, there's no gluten so... well I don't know what you'd get, but I wouldn't fancy cleaning up the mess afterwards ), together with the cocoa powder, baking powder and salt into a large bowl; then take a whisk and whisk it all together until it looks homogenous (you sift to break up lumps, you whisk to integrate - it's not being fussy, honest).

Now in a smaller bowl, mix the buttermilk, vinegar and vanilla extract. Now change into an old t-shirt and jeans, put on an apron, put the bowl on a few sheets of kitchen roll, and add the entire 25ml bottle of red food colouring. I'm not saying it's going to be messy. Well, I am, but maybe you'll be the exception to the rule and won't stain every square inch of fabric in the kitchen the colour of arterial blood. Maybe.

Anyway, mix it all together until the liquid looks bright pink. Now, take the bowl of your stand mixer, dump in the brown sugar and the butter, then take the butter back out, cut it into smallish cubes and put those back in. You could remember to cut it up first, or you could even just forget to cut it up until you turned on the mixer and it threw half the sugar against the far wall, but where would be the fun in that?

After about five minutes on high speed, the contents of the bowl should look like someone mixed sand with whipped cream. At this point, turn down the speed of the mixer to medium-low, and add in the eggs. Just crack them all into a cup (and the extra yolk), and pour them slowly into the running mixer one yolk at a time. Wait until you can't see the last yolk before you add the next. After this, the mix should look like wet sand mixed with whipped cream.

Now, add in the flours and the liquid, but do it in stages - add a cup of the flours first, then a half-cup of the liquid, then a cup of the flours, then a half-cup of the liquid, and so on. I just use the cup measure for the flour and the half-cup for liquid. Before each addition, stop the mixer, scrape down the sides of the bowl with a spatula and give the mix a quick stir by hand with the spatula; add whatever you're adding, then start the mixer on low and build up speed to medium and leave it there for 30 seconds or until the mix looks homogenous. You really want the mix to be well... mixed. Any lumps or bits sticking to the bottom of the bowl turn into large pockets of steam during baking and you get large holes in the bottom or sides of your cake.

You may find when adding the first dose of liquid that it sprays everywhere when you start the mixer. This may be because you started the mixer on by accidentally hitting pulse. I suggest starting the mixer really slowly to avoid the mess, and writing an annoyed email to whomever designed the user interface for your stand mixer afterwards. Ahem.

Once the last addition has gone into the mix, your batter is now basicly done. Take two loaf tins, and spray them with one of those aerosol oils, line them with parchment paper (no need to do the ends or sides, you just want to do the bottom of the pans really) and divide the batter between them both. Give a little wiggle to the pans to sort out any large air bubbles, then bake them at 160C in the oven for around 30-35 minutes (about half-way through, spin the pans around and swap them around in the oven for even heating), then take a probe thermometer and check them (you want an internal temperature of 96C). Or, just bake until they're slightly springy and a toothpick will come out clean if you stick it in the middle of the cake; but that takes a bit more practice than I've had. I just stick to the thermometer.

You could use the same batter for cupcakes; just slightly less time needed (but the same internal temperature).

Or, you could do something neat and messy and use a baking tray instead of a loaf tin and pour the batter into a single large thin sheet. Cook that off, cover in frosting and roll up for a nice swiss roll, or spread with jam (did I mention that bramble jelly is the best jam to use on this cake? Well, it is) and frosting and cover with another layer to make nice cake sandwiches. Did I mention that I baked a *lot* of batter while tweaking this recipe?

Now, frosting. You can do pretty much anything - I found that chocolate frosting and a bramble jelly filling works brilliantly but is *really* heavy, especially if you make too much frosting:



But the one that everyone's liked the most so far has actually been the traditional frosting from the South, where the cake originated; cream cheese frosting. It was handy where it was invented because the temperature was too high for buttercream frosting to remain frosting - it'd melt right off the cake (no refrigeration at the time, remember). But with cream cheese frosting, it stayed like frosting at room temperature. Plus, it tastes good and it's easy to make.

So, clean out your stand mixer bowl, and add:

• 300g Philadelphia (one tub, basicly)
• 114g unsalted butter, cut into cubes (that's just the other half of the packet of butter you used to make the cake - told you this was easy)

Now beat that on high until it goes from looking like solid blocks to looking like really really thick whipped cream. Now, add in

• 2 tsp vanilla essence

and let it continue beating for a minute, then slowly add in

• 300g of powdered sugar (icing sugar)

Do it slowly, a tablespoon at a time at first. You don't have to add it so slowly and carefully I suppose; but by this stage your kitchen is probably covered in flour, red food colouring, eggs and buttermilk, and adding a thin mist of powdered sugar over everything is probably going to snap your wife's last nerve before you have the cake to hide behind (this cake makes an excellent shield, by the way). So do it slowly. Beat on high once the sugar is in, until the mix looks homogenous, then turn off the stand mixer, and move the bowl into the fridge for ten minutes before you slather the frosting all over the cake, the board, your hands, and a slice of toast (don't judge me).

The end result, especially if you make too much frosting, is NYOMNYOMNYOMshortlived:



Yeah, it's messy. Yeah, it's a bit lopsided. It's manly cake, it doesn't do prissy. Shut up and eat it

tatumkelly

I'm definitely making this!! Just to be clear.... you did say a whole bottle of food colouring?!! :eek: Did you just use supermarket quality or buy special fancy pants stuff?

I'll post photos when I make it during the week.

Thanks for the recipe, and the entertaining post

Sparks

tatumkelly wrote: »

I'm definitely making this!! Just to be clear.... you did say a whole bottle of food colouring?!! :eek: Did you just use supermarket quality or buy special fancy pants stuff?

Yup, the whole bottle. It's only 25ml, and it's ordinary supermarket stuff (got mine in Tesco).

Thanks for the recipe, and the entertaining post

You're welcome!

Walls

For the record! I have never lifted my hand to Himself! He was making cake, I was a bought woman.

Cake is simply sublime, folks, I'm adding it to the list of requests for dishes during Christmas and birthdays, etc.

hdowney

This is bloody amazing Curious. yer tins, what kinda tins, what size etc. Like how much cake are we talking with these quantities? Cos I SOSOSO wanna make it but there are only two people in this house, one is diabetic so...

Sparks

They're bog standard, bought from tesco, 1lb size if I remember correctly - I'll doublecheck tonight. The recipe makes enough to fill two of those to about the 1/2-2/3 level which will give you two full loaf tins of cake when baked (or just under that). Split in half, douse in frosting and you get the cake in the last picture.

Sparks

Herself indoors checked - they're 7.5 inches by 3.5:



And as modelled by our baking assistant:

hdowney

Thanks for that. Can't wait to make this. Will take pics

Cute kid btw

The Hill Billy

Sparks wrote: »

Herself indoors checked - they're 7.5 inches by 3.5

If you ask me they are at least 10" by 5".

tatumkelly

The second I saw this recipe, I had to bake it... So this morning I decided today was the day....

I trekked off to the supermarket, picked up everything I needed and was so excited about using my new fancy tin (yes I'm a loser)

Ingredients ready and waiting...


Handy tip... if you can't find red food colouring, just clean your paint brushes into some water.... MMMMMMMM appetizing


Seriously, follow the instructions in the OP to the letter...use a stand mixer.... don't use a hand mixer like me....not only was I coated in flour, but I was splattered in bright red dots, and my cream floor tiles are now cream with red polka dots! (The hand mixer is usually black!)


Cake ready to be baked.... had everything crossed that I could get it out of the tin...


Just out of the oven...


And drumroll please........voila....


Thanks a million for the recipe OP. I had barely iced it when I took half down to my sister's office.... went down a treat. Will definitely be making again

Sparks

Ooooo, making red velvet cake in an angel food cake tin. That's wonderfully ironic; red velvet cake is a variation of devil's food cake
And it looks great!

hdowney

What the heck is a stand mixer and how is it any better at preventing splatters and the like than a hand one? Curious like. I shall be making on Monday

Sparks

hdowney wrote: »

What the heck is a stand mixer and how is it any better at preventing splatters and the like than a hand one? Curious like. I shall be making on Monday

Something like this (which I use):


or this (which you'd see in the US a lot):

hdowney

Oh I haven't got nor can't afford (or have anywhere to store) one of them

Sparks

You *can* do it by hand...
...it's just a longer and more difficult process. But there's cake at the end of it...

hdowney

Sparks wrote: »

You *can* do it by hand...
...it's just a longer and more difficult process. But there's cake at the end of it...

If by hand you mean with a hand whisk a la the person above, then yes. If you mean with a whisk and elbow grease, HELL TO THE NO!!!!!

Sparks

Actually, after the creaming of the butter and sugar, a hand whisk and elbow grease would probably be a better approach than a hand-held whisk; but it would take a lot longer than a stand mixer.

hdowney

Sparks wrote: »

Actually, after the creaming of the butter and sugar, a hand whisk and elbow grease would probably be a better approach than a hand-held whisk; but it would take a lot longer than a stand mixer.

I think my arms would probably disagree with you there :pac: but I shall find what works best for me, and stick Stand Mixer on my Christmas List!

Sparks

They're seriously worth it, the attachments tend to make it to One Kitchen Appliance...

hdowney

They say that about a food processor too tho!! Need one of them too. My blender broke

Sparks

My Kenwood is my stand mixer, my food processor, my blender and my mincer...

hdowney

Sparks wrote: »

My Kenwood is my stand mixer, my food processor, my blender and my mincer...

Where did you get this wonderful piece of kit may I ask and how much did it cost. I want that one

Sparks

It was actually a gift from my folks years ago (KCs tend to last forever - my mom's was a gift shortly after they got married and it finally had to be replaced 30-odd years later). But it's the attachments that make it so useful. Not cheap mind; you're looking at a few hundred quid.

hdowney

drat

tatumkelly

Totally worth it though! My mum's may go missing...

This is already on my wish list...



And yes, I get excited about new angel food tins, and kitchen gadgets

Sparks

tatumkelly wrote: »

And yes, I get excited about new angel food tins, and kitchen gadgets

I'm confused - are you saying there are people who don't?

hdowney

Yes. My mother. HATES cooking and baking.

I got my first ever angel food tin for christmas. one of the rubbery ones I had wanted one for like SO long. And would you believe I haven't used the darn thing yet

kerash

Ooooooooooh we like cake in this house, Cake and Chilli . That's one I'll be trying soon. Coincidentally my next cake project is pretty much exactly like the cake with the flowers on it!
Also I had no idea what cake flour was so now at least i can substitute for Tritamyl Flour.

Sparks

kerash wrote: »

Also I had no idea what cake flour was so now at least i can substitute for Tritamyl Flour.

Yeah, our flours are a bit odd. The americans have AP (all purpose) flour, the UK has plain flour, but we have cream flour, which isn't plain, but has about a teaspoon of baking powder per kilo or thereabouts. And we don't seem to have cake flour (or at least, I can't find it) - I used the tritamyl because it has the same protein content, but I don't think it's bleached the way cake flour is, so if you can find cake flour, use that instead, it'll give better results. And then you can go the other way on the protein scale to the flours with more protein and then pretty much everyone has the same bread flour, bread machine flour and 00 flour. So you're grand for breads and pastas, but stuffed for cake

confusticated

A Kenwood Chef is the one thing I really really want when I finally settle down and move into a grown-up flat/house. I would sleep on the floor for a while to buy the KC before a bed.

Also, OT, I've never seen tritamyl flour or cake flour anywhere...is it just a gluten-free flour? Can you get it in supermarkets or would it be a health food shop jobby? I'm moving to a house with a nicer oven than currently soon so gonna give the cake a go then!

Mr Simpson

I'd use strong flour as a substitute for cake flour. Isn't Tritamyl the gluten free flour?

This cake looks seriously delicious, I shall be making it very soon!!

tatumkelly

confusticated wrote: »

A Kenwood Chef is the one thing I really really want when I finally settle down and move into a grown-up flat/house. I would sleep on the floor for a while to buy the KC before a bed.

Also, OT, I've never seen tritamyl flour or cake flour anywhere...is it just a gluten-free flour? Can you get it in supermarkets or would it be a health food shop jobby? I'm moving to a house with a nicer oven than currently soon so gonna give the cake a go then!

I picked it up in Superquinn, it was with their gluten free/allergy type foods. I'm sure most of the big supermarkets will have it. €6 a bag.... I'm gonna be making a lot of Red Velvet cake to use it up

Toast4532

confusticated wrote: »

A Kenwood Chef is the one thing I really really want when I finally settle down and move into a grown-up flat/house. I would sleep on the floor for a while to buy the KC before a bed.

Also, OT, I've never seen tritamyl flour or cake flour anywhere...is it just a gluten-free flour? Can you get it in supermarkets or would it be a health food shop jobby? I'm moving to a house with a nicer oven than currently soon so gonna give the cake a go then!

I'm pretty sure I have seen it in Dunnes stores before, might be worth ringing your local Dunnes as they may be able to tell you over the phone whether or not they have it.

Sparks

confusticated wrote: »

Also, OT, I've never seen tritamyl flour or cake flour anywhere...is it just a gluten-free flour? Can you get it in supermarkets or would it be a health food shop jobby?

It's just gluten-free. Fairly widely available, got mine in Tesco, have seen it everywhere.

Sparks

mmcn90 wrote: »

I'd use strong flour as a substitute for cake flour. Isn't Tritamyl the gluten free flour?

Yes, but it's got very low protein (4.5% or so). Cake flour is about 7%, cream flour 10%, AP flour about 12-14%, and bread flours 16% and up. It's the protein you're looking at, as it forms the gluten and toughens the cake. So gluten-free, low-protein flour makes a really light cake.

I did try all cream flour and it's closer to bread than cake. Try it with bread flour and it'd be even closer to bread. Nice, but not cake.

Mr Simpson

Sparks wrote: »

Yes, but it's got very low protein (4.5% or so). Cake flour is about 7%, cream flour 10%, AP flour about 12-14%, and bread flours 16% and up. It's the protein you're looking at, as it forms the gluten and toughens the cake. So gluten-free, low-protein flour makes a really light cake.

I did try all cream flour and it's closer to bread than cake. Try it with bread flour and it'd be even closer to bread. Nice, but not cake.

Something to watch out for as well is, if you're using those stand mixers it's very easy to over work flour thus forming the gluten. Anyway the tritamyl sounds like a handy tip I must give it a go, it's pretty easy to find.

Sparks

mmcn90 wrote: »

Something to watch out for as well is, if you're using those stand mixers it's very easy to over work flour thus forming the gluten.

Yup, that's why you cream the sugar&butter on high, then mix the flours in on low speed and don't mix once they're incorporated...

Mr Simpson

Sparks wrote: »

Yup, that's why you cream the sugar&butter on high, then mix the flours in on low speed and don't mix once they're incorporated...

*note to self, read the recipe better (at a less ridiculous time of the evening)

confusticated

Toast4532 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I have seen it in Dunnes stores before, might be worth ringing your local Dunnes as they may be able to tell you over the phone whether or not they have it.

Oh god I wouldn't bother them for that, I'll just check when I'm doing my shopping! Thanks though.

Never looked in the gluten-free sections before tbh, should be able to find it okay so. Although at that price I won't be looking for it again in a hurry! Thanks for the quick replies, fellow insomniac bakers.

confusticated

Finally made this as a surprise for my housemate's birthday. I managed to make the entire thing and ice it while she was in the house, she passed through our (tiny) kitchen several times and noticed nothing!

My icing skillz are not so hot, it looks like it melted:



The text says happy bday Also it didn't glow in real life.

Sparks

Forget the icing, how did it taste?

confusticated

Glorious.

McChubbin

Great Odin's Raven, I think I got diabetes just looking at pictures of this glorious cake. Having taken a look at the recipe, however, it seems quite out of my skill level what with all the faffing about with various flours and such. I also don't own a stand mixer.
Still, I will happily save this recipe into my bookmarked folder of culinary delights and when I eventally come into possesion of a multi-purpose mixer this will be my first attempt!
It looks so good! *grabby hands*

confusticated

McChubbin wrote: »

Great Odin's Raven, I think I got diabetes just looking at pictures of this glorious cake. Having taken a look at the recipe, however, it seems quite out of my skill level what with all the faffing about with various flours and such. I also don't own a stand mixer.
Still, I will happily save this recipe into my bookmarked folder of culinary delights and when I eventally come into possesion of a multi-purpose mixer this will be my first attempt!
It looks so good! *grabby hands*

It's actually fierce easy, you just need 3 bowls/jugs/containers. I don't have a sieve (sorry Sparks!) so I just put all the flours into one bowl, all the liquids into a measuring jug (easier to measure quantities) and butter and sugar into another bowl. I did have the hand mixer for creaming the butter and sugar, but did the rest with a wooden spoon and it was really easy - I was expecting my arms to wither and die but it mixed pretty quickly. Also was less messy as a result - as I said, made the cake pretty much under my flatmate's nose and she didn't notice what it was, so I think the mixer might make this process worse in terms of mess. YOU CAN DO IT - it's well worth it. Although make it for LOTS of people. There were over 20 at the party and everyone got a good slice from that. It's really rich. Someone told me they'd marry me for that cake alone - it is that good. (Thanks again Sparks!)

Sparks

Welcome confusicated, glad you liked it, and let us know when the wedding is

McChubbin

Confisicated has me convinced- after I get the hassle of Christmas out of the way, I am going to bake the living bejaysus out of this cake.
I've got a 50th and a 21st birthday coming up so if all goes well, I might just find a contender for my go-to party cake.

MissFlitworth

Planning on making this for my family christmas party next weekend Someone on here before (I think Magic Monkey) pointed me in the direction of Polish/Eastern European shops for cake flour (maka tortowa)

This is the version I usually buy (handy cake on the front so I know which one to pick up



I might compare the protein content of this to tritamyl flour to see if it matches up cos it's a lot cheaper than a bag of tritamyl

Sparks

MissFlitworth wrote: »

I might compare the protein content of this to tritamyl flour to see if it matches up cos it's a lot cheaper than a bag of tritamyl

Hells no, don't bother - if you can find cake flour, use it. The tritamyl is a substitute for the cake flour. And even if the cake flour's protein content is a percent or so higher, the bleaching of the cake flour and the finer milling would compensate to give a better end product anyway.

MissFlitworth

Sparks wrote: »

Hells no, don't bother

Woohoo! No sneaking my bag of polish cake flour into Tesco to compare protein content for me so!

ElleEm

Kettle on, frosting chilling, I cannot wait to try this cake!!!!

Queen-Mise

This is a man's recipe if ever I have seen one. Had the hubby helping me today with baking, I might get him to help me next weekend with this.

This is Bookmarked for further investigation. Also loved the opening post - writing complaint emails, blood splattered walls and floor, with a three month old, all in a days cooking