Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

You know Dundee Utd fans also got charged a second time for that game? And both fans were charged reduced prices? And that Utd couldn't really afford to let everyone in for free?

To most people the rearranged fixture reason just sounds like a more convenient excuse than "we're pissy with DUFC because they chose sporting integrity".


Yes, in the process of liquidating them. To say they were not liquidated is pedantry in the extreme.

No its not sorry you said they were liquidated they aren't which poses all sorts of questions

Peppa Pig

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

No he was still here in an official capacity there is nothing in the rules to say whether he has to sit in the directors box

How can you be there in an official capacity and not meet with your counterparts?

Has he announced what charity he is donating his share of the gate to?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

He doestn't have to interact with the chairman of any club. Which it would be in this case. As far as I know it is the Erskine Charity

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

No its not sorry you said they were liquidated they aren't which poses all sorts of questions

lol serious delusion, what as Chucky done to you

Peppa Pig

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

He doestn't have to interact with the chairman of any club. Which it would be in this case. As far as I know it is the Erskine Charity

Is some bloke called Murray not the chairman? Green is the chief executive, isn't he?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

lol serious delusion, what as Chucky done to you

It is not a delusion as far as I know BDO have not liquidated the old company as yet.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Peppa Pig wrote: »

Is some bloke called Murray not the chairman? Green is the chief executive, isn't he?

Yes Malcolm Murray don't know where he sat don't really care and yes Green is the CEO

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

It is not a delusion as far as I know BDO have not liquidated the old company as yet.

They are "in liquidation". Do you understand what that means?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

They are "in liquidation". Do you understand what that means?

Yes that a company in this case BDO is looking for the best way to liquidate a company. They have not been liquidated as yet Do you understand what that means

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes that a company in this case BDO is looking for the best way to liquidate a company. They have not been liquidated as yet Do you understand what that means

Do you understand that this level of pedantry is making you look very, very silly?

Whether the process of liquidation (which takes years) is finished is irrelevant as it is not a process that cannot be halted or reversed. The club was liquidated, that is why you started again in the bottom tier and have been the laughing stock of world football for months.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Do you understand that this level of pedantry is making you look very, very silly?

Whether the process of liquidation (which takes years) is finished is irrelevant as it is not a process that can be halted or reversed. The club was liquidated, that is why you started again in the bottom tier and have been the laughing stock of world football for months.

No the old company has not been liquidated and wasn't when Green bought the assets. Now as much as you don't like that its the way it stands. It really shows you up for the wee bitter man you are when you start this. Talk to someone who gives a flying one what you think

BhoscaCapall

You can't pretend not to care when you're getting wound up enough to start throwing childish insults around once again.

Rangers are not liquidated. LOL ok we'll run with that one then.

54 and counting :pac:

Jelle1880

What's making people look silly is coming into threads of rival clubs in some poor attempt at winding people up.

BhoscaCapall

Jelle1880 wrote: »

What's making people look silly is coming into threads of rival clubs in some poor attempt at winding people up.

If I were trying to wind people up then it wouldn't be that poor an attempt given that those folk are clearly getting wound up, even by innocuous questioning

A Dub in Glasgo

Definite class in scamming the tax payer and local businesses out of hard earned cash then declaring 'we are debt free and worth a lot of money'.

Jelle1880

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

If I were trying to wind people up then it wouldn't be that poor an attempt given that those folk are clearly getting wound up, even by innocuous questioning

Nobody's getting wound up, BBE just said you were wrong (which you were).

But you seem to have this weird sense of self-importance where you seem to believe that whatever you come in here to do is winding us up.
It's not, you're not that important, sorry.

And whatever you're on about Dub, nobody knows.
Unless you're (once again) just attempting to get a dig in.

Or wait, is it 'banter' :rolleyes:

You lot constantly say 'we're not obsessed' yet time and time again...

BhoscaCapall

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You lot constantly say 'we're not obsessed' yet time and time again...

I don't, I just laugh every time you use it as a defence mechanism when people are ripping the piss out of your sorry club.

Jelle1880

I'm not even surprised you don't see the irony of your own post.

BhoscaCapall

I'm not sure you know what irony means but with vague posts like that you can get away with it I suppose, good work!

bobbysands81

NewCo Rangers hit with 'winding up order' for debts owed.

Ah well, there goes Green's claim that you guys are debt free!

blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/revealed-rangers-windingup-petition/4020

Revealed: Rangers winding-up petition

32436 Votes

After some days of often feverish online speculation, I am now able to clarify the situation regarding the winding-up order which may soon be served against the Rangers Newco over a contract for services prior to the recent share offer.



Orlit Enterprises, based in Singapore, is seeking to petition the Scottish Court for a winding-up order against Rangers. Sources close to this legal action have spoken exclusively to Channel 4 News today.

This claim arises from the club’s alleged failure to pay two of the four invoices issued by Orlit. The outstanding sum is £400,000.

The source has clarified to Channel 4 News that Orlit Enterprises was contracted to source and introduce the investors who provided seed capital in order to acquire the club from the administrator and to secure the June 2012 payroll.

Orlit did not participate in either the pre-IPO equity fundraising or the IPO itself.

My sources indicated to me that there has been no satisfactory answer from the club as to its non-payment despite several requests. In the circumstances, the application for a winding-up order of the Rangers Football Club Limited – being the trading company obliged to pay the debt. Sources close to Orlit say they now have no other option than to embark upon winding up proceedings.

We are seeking comment on this from Rangers. Of course they may well have very sound reasons and defence for not paying.

This all sounds dramatic stuff and it may possibly play that way. But one should remember that winding-up petitions are often used as a method of extracting payment from companies.

BhoscaCapall

I wouldn't worry about it. Alex Thomson is a proven bigot!

Broxi_Bear_Eire

A good journalist would have got the clubs side of things before spouting off

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/3313-court-petition-statement

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

A good journalist would have got the clubs side of things before spouting off

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/3313-court-petition-statement

lol you do realise that this 'statement' was only just released, whereas the original news broke this morning?

He was waiting on a reply from the club since early this afternoon.

It does seem odd that a "cash rich" company with £22m (or billion cant remember) would dodge such an "insignificant" debt to the point where a rather embarrassing winding up order is issued. One would have hoped they had learnt a fatal lesson about paying monies owed, or did Green not purchase that along with the history and trophies and so on?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Appears the Asian investment company are looking a fast return: Orlit were the firm that introduced Arif Navqi of Abraaj Capitail

Looking like a tangled web of gies my return now since you raised so much in the IPO

bobbysands81

This story was actually on Teh Huddleborad a few days ago. The poster also said that NewCo had sorted it out and it was no longer an issue.

Pompey Magnus

Alex Thomson:

EXCLUSIVE - Sources close to Orlit Enterprise say: "no settlement has been reached" over Rangers owing them £400,000.

By itself though this doesn't necessarily contradict the statement from Rangers where they said:

"...agreement has been reached subject to the necessary paperwork."

Jelle1880

Neil Patey from Ernst & Young:

Mr Patey said Rangers’ finances were in a healthy position after the recent share issue.

He added: “It’s no threat to Rangers. It’s more of a tactic in a dispute.”

BhoscaCapall

Yeah I don't think anyone reckons The Rangers are going to get actually "wound up" (in the financial sense... they always seem to be in the other sense :P) but it's still strange that a team with such off-the-radar wealth would let such a peasantry sum of money go unpaid long enough for this to happen. I would have expected commerce and PR extraordinaire Charles Green to run a tighter ship.

I don't know why they don't just start a new company, buy the assets and history and wipe the 400k debt though.

A Dub in Glasgo

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I don't know why they don't just start a new company, buy the assets and history and wipe the 400k debt though.

That would be unethical.... er umm

Oat23

Reading an article on STV and came across this -

Based on official figures published by both clubs throughout 2012/13, Celtic’s average home crowd for league matches this season stands at 46,105, a total of 736 spectators less than Rangers have recorded.

Crazy! I had no idea Rangers were getting 40k+ every other week on average. Fair play to the faithful for sticking by their team