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Repeating Leaving cert-Some questions
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18-08-2012 04:42PM#1Hi everyone...I am repeating my leaving cert this year and need some advice.
I need to jump up around 100 or more points which I know.
My worst subject is Chemistry and really need a B2 in it this year(at least) but only got a D1 this year. Does anyone think this is achieveable or would anyone recommend doing a different subject??
I had the worst teacher ever but this year the teacher is so good
Obviously I would prefer to keep Chemistry but I am scared.
Need around 510 points and will be studying my ass off but as always if anyone who has repeated would be like to share some tips that would be great! Thanks0
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My worst subject is Chemistry and really need a B2 in it this year(at least) but only got a D1 this year. Does anyone think this is achieveable or would anyone recommend doing a different subject??
I think it could be achievable.. I got a D3 in geography and repeated it and got a B1.. I know they are very different subjects but if you put the work in. And with a different teacher too
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Definitely possible for Chemistry. I was a really weak Chemistry student in 5th year but the way I got better was exam papers I also bought a great book called "Exam Edge" which covers all exam questions up to 2009 and divides them by chapter. 0
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Hi David1994! I repeated this year and it was the best decision I ever made. I got a good leaving cert the year before (mid 400's), but I was 15 points off my course so I decided to go back.
I came up 70 points, 25 of them were from honors maths. Is there any way you could do maths next year? Considering a D3 in honors is worth 10 more points than an A1 in pass!
I did 6 subjects (dropped English). Make sure and view your scripts to see you marks in the projects and where you lost marks. I definitely think going up 100 is achievable once you put effort in! 0 -
YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »Definitely possible for Chemistry. I was a really weak Chemistry student in 5th year but the way I got better was exam papers I also bought a great book called "Exam Edge" which covers all exam questions up to 2009 and divides them by chapter.
Thanks for the advice This gives me inspiration..:P I have seen "Exam Edge" and it seems a very good aid for Chemistry. Out of curiosity what did you get in Chemistry?
What did you get in Geography and Irish? Higher or Ordinary?
Hi. Both higher-Got B3 in Geography and C1 in Irish
However I was very disappointed with these results..Not to mention English :P
Hi David1994! I repeated this year and it was the best decision I ever made. I got a good leaving cert the year before (mid 400's), but I was 15 points off my course so I decided to go back.
I came up 70 points, 25 of them were from honors maths. Is there any way you could do maths next year? Considering a D3 in honors is worth 10 more points than an A1 in pass!
I did 6 subjects (dropped English). Make sure and view your scripts to see you marks in the projects and where you lost marks. I definitely think going up 100 is achievable once you put effort in!
Thanks for the advice and I am glad everything worked out for you! I will be viewing a few of my scripts anyway as I am unhappy with a lot of them..Also I will probably not take up Honours Maths as I already have my B3 in pass maths and do not want to have to do it again :P Thanks for the suggestion though 0 -
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Hi. Both higher-Got B3 in Geography and C1 in Irish However I was very disappointed with these results..Not to mention English :P
That's good you did higher. Seeing your disappointed with them I presume you'll be doing them this year? I mention Irish and Geog because one they were my two favourite subjects, two I got a's in both and three they are very easy to pick up marks and do very good in with a little bit of extra work and focus. You should be reasonably sorted for the Irish oral. Sure you've new pictures but you'll have a rough idea of them already seeing you did 20 last year we'll say. But regardless of having a 'script' already...improve on it. I was naturally good at Irish but I'm telling you if you get to like Irish and put in effort a high b is definitely manageable. A big thing in Irish to impress the examiner is not your knowledge from studying stuff but nice snappy little phrases. I honestly can only think of a handful now but I'd a few pages of them that I knew and they just came to me naturally after a while. You can throw them in everywhere from poetry to the essay to the oral. And they're not hard to find. Internet, text books etc. Everyone was always impressed with my answers and how they flowed so nicely and were appealing. Sure I knew my **** but those phrases put the examiner in a good mood
and you're more likely to get more marks.
As for Geography. Well you will need to really focus on that to do really well. I got an A1 but eventhough I was chuffed to get it I wouldn't have settled for anything less. I wrote my ass off in that exam. For 30 mark questions that required a page to a page and a half I wrote two to two and a half. Geography is very easy to do well in if you just concentrate on it. I was so focused on Geog that I did no maths p. 1 study the night before the exam...all geog. A good tip for Geog especially is learn to write really really fast. I'm probably the fastest writer in my school and with that I could write so much more than anyone else. Does writing very fast hurt? You bet. I was in agony during most exams because of it but it's only for a short period of time that will pay off for years to come. I know you're probably like how can you learn to write fast but trust me you can. Doing simple exercises like filling a page with writing from a book in as little time as possible and then trying to beat it. It'll train your hand to write faster and your wrists and fingers will get stronger so you can endure more too. Honestly I'd recommend this for any subject but definitely Geography. You've very little time to write when you think about it so you've got to really bust your lungs especially if you want an a. But you're clearly good at both subjects. They're good grades. You've an advantage that you've done the courses already....are you going looking at your scripts? Please do, especially for Irish and Geog. See where you went wrong and take note of it. See where you did great too because you can find out why you're doing good at that. I hope this helps just a little if anything...if you want any help with Irish or Geog please shout or even PM me... I'll gladly help. I'm not a teacher or expert by any means but I got A's in both subjects and honestly they were pretty easy to get.0 -
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Fair play! Just curious but what grade did you go from? And did you do anything different second time around?
I went from a D2 to a B1. I had an awesome teacher second time around so that helped my teacher was dreadful the first time. I tried to undestand chemistry this year not rote learning it like last year.
I also used the book more this year than last year and avoided a revision book until the last month.
Also no one word answers for hl you have to write sentences i only discovered that this year:pac:
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I went from a D2 to a B1. I had an awesome teacher second time around so that helped my teacher was dreadful the first time. I tried to undestand chemistry this year not rote learning it like last year.
I also used the book more this year than last year and avoided a revision book until the last month.
Also no one word answers for hl you have to write sentences i only discovered that this year:pac:
And no predicting!
Yep I can relate to to whole crap teacher first time round :P Yeah I think I am going to use the book more Fair play again on the result! 0 -
I went from a C2 in chemistry in the mock to an A1 in the exam, so it's definitely possible to improve a LOT in the subject if you put the work in.
In my opinion the acids and bases and pH and indicators chapters are some of the easiest, as are organic chemistry, fuels and heats of reaction, stoichiometry and the scientists for the short questions.
Experiments are so important. I put so much work into them coming up to the exam. Make VERY short summaries of each experiment. For the titrations, just learn the method and what you do with the pipette, burette, conical flask etc once, and then for each titrations just write down the chemical in the burette and the conical flask, and which indicator you used. It makes them so so much easier to remember, than when the important information is all mixed in with stuff that's the same each time and which you already know. Summaries of experiments should be like half an A4 page max, and make sure you know the diagrams as diagram questions are usually very easy. But honestly, the experiment questions are a great place to pick up marks as they're usually much easier than the other questions.
Like if you do 3 experiment questions, the short questions, fuels and heats of reaction and organic chemistry, that's 6 out of 8 already and they pretty much always come up. Oh, water is another good one, and if you get part of a question on pH and indicators you should be thanking ALL the gods as those calculations are the easiest you can get. And rates of reaction! That's a brilliant chapter too.
I actually have some very good chapter summaries and experiment summaries written out, if I can find them I could scan them for you if you want? I did them all after my C2 made me realise I should start working, before that I had no notes. I don't have all the chapters or experiments done though, I'm too lazy for that. :L I used to hate chemistry and it was always my worst subject, but when I started actually working at it, I realised I really liked it and I spent more time at it than any other subject because studying it was fun.
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I went from a C2 in chemistry in the mock to an A1 in the exam, so it's definitely possible to improve a LOT in the subject if you put the work in.
In my opinion the acids and bases and pH and indicators chapters are some of the easiest, as are organic chemistry, fuels and heats of reaction, stoichiometry and the scientists for the short questions.
Experiments are so important. I put so much work into them coming up to the exam. Make VERY short summaries of each experiment. For the titrations, just learn the method and what you do with the pipette, burette, conical flask etc once, and then for each titrations just write down the chemical in the burette and the conical flask, and which indicator you used. It makes them so so much easier to remember, than when the important information is all mixed in with stuff that's the same each time and which you already know. Summaries of experiments should be like half an A4 page max, and make sure you know the diagrams as diagram questions are usually very easy. But honestly, the experiment questions are a great place to pick up marks as they're usually much easier than the other questions.
Like if you do 3 experiment questions, the short questions, fuels and heats of reaction and organic chemistry, that's 6 out of 8 already and they pretty much always come up. Oh, water is another good one, and if you get part of a question on pH and indicators you should be thanking ALL the gods as those calculations are the easiest you can get. And rates of reaction! That's a brilliant chapter too.
I actually have some very good chapter summaries and experiment summaries written out, if I can find them I could scan them for you if you want? I did them all after my C2 made me realise I should start working, before that I had no notes. I don't have all the chapters or experiments done though, I'm too lazy for that. :L I used to hate chemistry and it was always my worst subject, but when I started actually working at it, I realised I really liked it and I spent more time at it than any other subject because studying it was fun.
Thank you so much for the input and well done on your fantastic result I will definitely put a lot of work in and having a good teacher will be a bonus.. I sort of realised I was doing very generalised study of chapters but somehow leaving out the nitty gritty pieces of vital information.
If you had time I would really appreciate those notes Thanks agin for everything! :L 0 -
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Silver_Tiger wrote: »That's good news for me so
and the thing is i wouldnt have studied chemistry really hard during the year. Just a couple of pages a day:)0 -
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Just asking, would it be stupid to repeat the Leaving, for like the second time?
First time I only got 280, second 390.. And yet I still didn't get what I wanted. Literally have my heart set on only one course, just the thing is people are telling me there's no point and to move on from the Leaving and try a new course.. My family didn't want me to repeat this year gone either.
I know which subjects I'd pick, because the last two times there was no subjects available in the schools to give me an easy advantage in points, like I'm very musical and I never got to do music.. In opposite absolutely terrible at chemistry but had to do it and got a C. :L
In one sense I'm just thinking of what other people will say; I'm repeating for the third time. :L
In the other, I honestly know I won't be happy until I get this course... Any advice anyone?
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Whatsernamex33 wrote: »Just asking, would it be stupid to repeat the Leaving, for like the second time?
First time I only got 280, second 390.. And yet I still didn't get what I wanted. Literally have my heart set on only one course, just the thing is people are telling me there's no point and to move on from the Leaving and try a new course.. My family didn't want me to repeat this year gone either.
I know which subjects I'd pick, because the last two times there was no subjects available in the schools to give me an easy advantage in points, like I'm very musical and I never got to do music.. In opposite absolutely terrible at chemistry but had to do it and got a C. :L
In one sense I'm just thinking of what other people will say; I'm repeating for the third time. :L
In the other, I honestly know I won't be happy until I get this course... Any advice anyone?
I know people who have repeated the 3rd time and in one instance the 4th time and got their course. If its what you want to do do it. Its your life and you've to live with the decisions not the people around you. I'll be doing the lc for the 3rd time this year and i couldnt be bothered what people think.
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Whatsernamex33 wrote: »Just asking, would it be stupid to repeat the Leaving, for like the second time?
First time I only got 280, second 390.. And yet I still didn't get what I wanted. Literally have my heart set on only one course, just the thing is people are telling me there's no point and to move on from the Leaving and try a new course.. My family didn't want me to repeat this year gone either.
I know which subjects I'd pick, because the last two times there was no subjects available in the schools to give me an easy advantage in points, like I'm very musical and I never got to do music.. In opposite absolutely terrible at chemistry but had to do it and got a C. :L
In one sense I'm just thinking of what other people will say; I'm repeating for the third time. :L
In the other, I honestly know I won't be happy until I get this course... Any advice anyone?
What course was it? Did you get another course that you could do? then you can maybe transfer after the 2nd year to a different college? People have said you can do that. I know people who repeated this year but decided not to sit the leaving cert do they're doing the year again. It's up to you if you really want that course. It'd be a lot of effort to put in another year. I don't think there's anything wrong with repeating for the third time if it gets you to where you want to be.0 -
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Alot of subjects I would be do-able in a year, physics ain't one of them. IMO, it's probably the heaviest of the sciences.
Outside of Ag.. Do ag
I studied honours physics 5 days before the leaving cert and got a B2. I decided to sit the exam at short notice and just didnt get a chance to study it til I finished the biology exam the week before. Its very doable if your motivated! I did 8 hours a day for 5 days of just physics, it was a subject i never studied before so it was tough at first but then it clicked. I narrowed the course down at bit. I focused mainly on modern physics, electricity, electromagnetic but had a good idea of the rest of the course. I studied the experiments two days before hand, again i narrowed it down a bit. I found doing all the previous exam papers was a huge help! Anyway my point is if your motivated anything is possible 0 -
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I'm repeating for the second time! I changed schools last year and went up 160 points and still didn't get my course, then again my course was 585 this year. Everyone is going to college and it sucks but I need this course and people are like "Oh go the long way, sure the leaving is a waste of time". But I've my heart set on the course and nothing is stopping me cause it's 8 years the graduate way. Don't do it for anyone else. Determination is something to be proud of! :P Plus third time lucky?Whatsernamex33 wrote: »Just asking, would it be stupid to repeat the Leaving, for like the second time?
First time I only got 280, second 390.. And yet I still didn't get what I wanted. Literally have my heart set on only one course, just the thing is people are telling me there's no point and to move on from the Leaving and try a new course.. My family didn't want me to repeat this year gone either.
I know which subjects I'd pick, because the last two times there was no subjects available in the schools to give me an easy advantage in points, like I'm very musical and I never got to do music.. In opposite absolutely terrible at chemistry but had to do it and got a C. :L
In one sense I'm just thinking of what other people will say; I'm repeating for the third time. :L
In the other, I honestly know I won't be happy until I get this course... Any advice anyone? 0 -
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Whatsernamex33 wrote: »Would people say it's more beneficial to repeat externally or in a repeat school?
It honestly depends from person to person. Only you know yourself and how things went last year well enough to know which is right for you. Repeating externally and doing everything by yourself requires huge amounts of motivation but it suits some people better than going back to school. Both have their pros and cons.0
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