FFVII is out.

Alactric

So, in case you blinked and missed it, the PC release that unceremoniously plopped out last weekend has been released officially.

http://kotaku.com/5934566/looks-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-re+release-is-out-today-in-europe?comment=51840877

The first details: it's not good. Same midi soundtrack, log in issues with the SE download manager, SecuRom in full effect, and some crazy graphical issues with text boxes and backgrounds in random battles.

No word on it's compatibility with existing FF7 mods / patches, downloading now. Will update accordingly.

chopperbyrne

Does chocobo racing still crash the game?

Alactric

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Does chocobo racing still crash the game?

40% downloaded, I'll get back to ye tomorrow

dlm

Copied from the other thread:

The trophy list is very disappointing

End Of Part I
Complete the first part of the game

End Of Part II
Complete the second part of the game

End Of Game
Complete Final Fantasy VII

Master Materia
Reach the maximum level of any materia

Master Of Gil
99,999,999 Gil

Top Level
Reach Level 99 with any character

Knights Of The Round
Get materia Knights Of The Round

Omnislash
Get Cloud’s last Limit Break

Catastrophe
Get Barret’s last limit break

Chaos
Get Vincent’s last limit break

Great Gospel
Get Aeris’s last limit break

Highwind
Get Cid’s last limit break

Final Heaven
Get Tifa’s last limit break

All Creation
Get Yuffie’s last limit break

Cosmo Memory
Get Red XIII’s last limit break

Slots
Get Cait Sith’s last limit break

Bahamut Zero
Get materia Bahamut Zero

Ultimate Weapon
Defeat the Ultimate Weapon

Diamond Weapon
Defeat the Diamond Weapon

Ruby Weapon
Defeat the Ruby Weapon

Emerald Weapon
Defeat the Emerald Weapon

Vincent
Get Vincent on your team

Yuffie
Get Yuffie on your team

Materia Overlord
Master all Materias

Battle Square
Start a battle in the Battle Square

Gold Chocobo
Get a Gold Chobobo

Won 1st Battle
Win your first battle

Braver
Use Cloud’s first limit

Big Shot
Use Barret’s first limit

Galian Beast
Use Vincent’s first limit

Healing Wind
Use Aeris’s first limit

Boost Jump
Use Cid’s first limit

Beat Rush
Use Tifa’s first limit

Greased Lightning
Use Yuffie’s first limit

Sled Fang
Use Red XIII’s first limit

Dice
Use Cait Sith’s first limit

Alactric

Good man yerself

dlm

Ok I played up to the first save point. You're allowed 15*10 saves and they're all stored in the cloud which is neat i guess.

The game speed is about 50% faster than normal (or was the old PC version always faster than the PS?).

It runs in the 4:3 AR by default and scaling it to full resolution makes the backgrounds look worse.

Edit:

log in issues with the SE download manager, SecuRom in full effect, and some crazy graphical issues with text boxes and backgrounds in random battles.

I havent had any of these issues as of yet. Although the MIDI sound is grating in parts

Edit2: BTW it's a 2.3GB download

snausages

dlm wrote: »

The game speed is about 50% faster than normal (or was the old PC version always faster than the PS?).

Well it's definitely faster than the PAL version, but maybe it's just me or does it feel a lot faster than the NTSC one as well? Not that I mind tbh.

Retr0gamer

The PAL version runs 16.7% slower than the US version which the PC version is based on. 16.7% doesn't sound like a lot but once you experience the difference between PAL and NTSC games you realise that PAL versions are terrible compared to NTSC versions. It makes a big difference which is why you think it runs 50% faster.

Good comparison here, notice how the music and gameplay are ruined in the PAL version. You can also really feel it in the controls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYdHUZlb7qs

AlmightyCushion

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The PAL version runs 16.7% slower than the US version which the PC version is based on. 16.7% doesn't sound like a lot but once you experience the difference between PAL and NTSC games you realise that PAL versions are terrible compared to NTSC versions. It makes a big difference which is why you think it runs 50% faster.

Good comparison here, notice how the music and gameplay are ruined in the PAL version. You can also really feel it in the controls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYdHUZlb7qs

The difference is a big surprise. The NTSC music sounds a bit weird at first (I must have completed Sonic about a billion times as a kid) but once you get used to it, it makes the PAL music sound desperate. The gameplay looks better too. Sonic on speed, how could it not be better.

Retr0gamer

You can feel the speed difference in the controls. I got my girlfriend a modded saturn with a 50/60 Hz switch recently and you can switch between PAL and NTSC at the touch of a button. The game becomes really unresponsive and sluggish at 50 Hz. Kind of annoying realising you've been getting boned on terrible conversions for so many years and not playing these games the way they are meant to be played.

Even worse for RPG players. All those extra hours we pumped into games because they were running 20% slower. I could have made a bigger dent on my backlog!

RedXIV

Very much noticeable on the PC the difference in the speed. Was actually massively surprised to see the difference, really changes the presentation of the game. the fact that random battles go from 6 seconds of loading to 3 is incredible. Played last night for 2 hours and just about to fight Rufus which I'm kinda impressed with (as per the other thread, herself is disgusted at how fast I'm getting through the game)

Had a look at the achievements too, that "MASTER ALL MATERIA" one I can see being people's last to get done.

snausages

The achievements are really lame. I was hoping for some stuff like 'beat Gi Nattak without healing items' or 'beat Emerald Weapon without using Underwater materia'. Or maybe an achievement for helping Mog get laid. Such a perfunctory port.

Alactric

So my download got corrupted at at 87% :mad: Can anyone tell me how the mouse and keyboard controls are? They used the Num pad in the original, please tell there's mouse control.

dlm

RedXIV wrote: »

Had a look at the achievements too, that "MASTER ALL MATERIA" one I can see being people's last to get done.

There's a 99mil Gil one. AFAIR you're usually sitting on about 40 or 50mil after mastering KOTR so that could be a pain...

Alactric wrote: »

So my download got corrupted at at 87% :mad: Can anyone tell me how the mouse and keyboard controls are? They used the Num pad in the original, please tell there's mouse control.

No mouse controls unfortunately

Last time I played through an emulator on the Xperia Play. I'm really missing the save state/load state. That would have been so much handier than the "Character Booster" thing

Aurongroove

I predict
Master all Materia
Great Gospel
and 99999999999999999999999 gil, are the trouble makers.

I wonder did they use the opportunity to fix basic games issues like the item glitch and the fact that magic defense stat on armor isn't assigned to any of the games mechanics and is thus a void stat.

RedXIV

Aurongroove wrote: »

I predict
Master all Materia
Great Gospel
and 99999999999999999999999 gil, are the trouble makers.

I wonder did they use the opportunity to fix basic games issues like the item glitch and the fact that magic defense stat on armor isn't assigned to any of the games mechanics and is thus a void stat.

I've got the Great Gospel already, just need Aeris to actually get to the stage where she can use it the gil always seems to happen to me anyway but the master all materia....if we can't use magic pots with the W-item cheat, thats gonna be a pain

RedXIV

Anyone else doing this? Haven't managed to get the Master Materia achievement yet even though I've mastered a few different materia. Anyone else come across this?

snausages

It's probably an issue with the cloud. I had to wait 5 minutes the other day before it would let me save. I think it has to wait and check with the cloud in order to give you achievements.

Randomfriend

Might buy this over the weekend, people who have, think its worth it?

Alactric

Randomfriend wrote: »

Might buy this over the weekend, people who have, think its worth it?

Well...since it's a question of "worth"

It's almost identical to the 1998 PC version. It adds support for higher resolutions and "achievements" If you were to emulate it you would literally have 100% more customizability, and probably more fun.

It should be no less than 2.99 not a mind 9.99

dlm

Anyone got the Materia Overlord achievement for mastering all materia? Mine isnt showing up and I've got the whole lot according to multiple sources

chopperbyrne

dlm wrote: »

Anyone got the Materia Overlord achievement for mastering all materia? Mine isnt showing up and I've got the whole lot according to multiple sources

Have you mastered every one or just collected each different materia type?

Alactric

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Have you mastered every one or just collected each different materia type?

What are these achievements your all on about btw? Where do they show up? In game or Squares weird download thingy?

RedXIV

dlm wrote: »

Anyone got the Materia Overlord achievement for mastering all materia? Mine isnt showing up and I've got the whole lot according to multiple sources

Do you have all the enemy skills? that counts too!

Randomfriend

Just killed Hojo, in his face!

RedXIV

I've a feeling I'm after getting screwed on the Master All Materia one. I know Enemy Skills count but just read about Pandora's box only ever being used once in the entire game. Pretty sure I missed it

Retr0gamer

RedXIV wrote: »

I've a feeling I'm after getting screwed on the Master All Materia one. I know Enemy Skills count but just read about Pandora's box only ever being used once in the entire game. Pretty sure I missed it

Take it as a lesson to ignore achievements especially pointless grindy ones.

dlm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Have you mastered every one or just collected each different materia type?

Mastered.

Alactric wrote: »

What are these achievements your all on about btw? Where do they show up? In game or Squares weird download thingy?

When you go to start the game it will ask do you want to play, see achievements, go to website or exit.

RedXIV wrote: »

Do you have all the enemy skills? that counts too!

Yep, I got 1 mastered.

Really not loving this crappy achievement implementation

tricolorbob1987

Hey, spent the last few days playing this , just wondering whats the recommended characters? atm I am using Cloud (obviously) Redxiii (use him for the healing of the party) and Vincent (main magic damage). Alot of people say to change Vincent with Cid?
Any help would be great, thanks

Retr0gamer

I just use them all giving them all equal play time. The game is very easy for an RPG and the characters only differ in the limit breaks they use due to the way the materia system works. I'd only be concerned about what characters to use when you are power gaming the optional weapon bosses and even then it's materia and not limit breaks that count. The game auto levels up people not in use anyway.

tricolorbob1987

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I just use them all giving them all equal play time. The game is very easy for an RPG and the characters only differ in the limit breaks they use due to the way the materia system works. I'd only be concerned about what characters to use when you are power gaming the optional weapon bosses and even then it's materia and not limit breaks that count. The game auto levels up people not in use anyway.

Cheers , Going to leave my party like that, except mix in tifa/Cid/Barret for Vincent every now and again , love Redxiii . Would love if they did the same for FF IX, what a game

The Don

RedXIV wrote: »

I've a feeling I'm after getting screwed on the Master All Materia one. I know Enemy Skills count but just read about Pandora's box only ever being used once in the entire game. Pretty sure I missed it

I'm pretty sure the Dragon Zombie's in the Northern Cave used it more than once on me on my original play throughs.

You could try to manipulate them and get them to cast it?

Randomfriend

Just killed me some emerald and ruby weapons

Took two trys to kill emerald, and about 5 to get ruby, my 1st go at Emerald I got screwed over, didn't bother with the underwater materia, killed him with 1 second left on the timer, so turned to 0 while they celebrated, then got the game over screen!

Taylor365

Going through FFVII on my Vita. Finding it a breeze so hoping to get around to do the weapons without KOTR.

Got Aeris up to her 4th Limit. Makes it even worse when shes not around

Current party is Cloud/Vincent/Yuffie. Going for something different rather than the standard Cid/Barret/Red type party

On my way to the bone village now after 13hours of play = about 2 weeks bus journeys