Spartan Gi Comp

StcIreland

We will be Holding a Gi competition in Spartan Training Centre on Sat the 1st of September

You will weigh in with the gi on

No groin guards allowed

Weight divisions
Under 57.5,64,70,76,82,88,84,open

This will be a points competition and there will be no advantages

we will be running this comp as a round robin style competition.

White Belts weigh in at 10 am

Blue Belts at 12 am

we will also run an absolute purple brown black belt division if there si enough interest

Entry fee for the competition is 25 euro

youllneverknow

I would go to this but €25 is abit steep for an in house competition, sure the Premier Irish BJJ championship was only €30 to enter and the irish open was €25.

steviemac

Well said €20 would be loads to enter

Bres

I think 25€ is a reasonable price, plus its a round robin style tournament so your not looking at paying €30 and only getting 1 fight.

lawrencesummers

what rules are you going to be using? what happens in the event of a draw?

Chris89

Bres wrote: »

I think 25€ is a reasonable price, plus its a round robin style tournament so your not looking at paying €30 and only getting 1 fight.

The price doesn't relate to the number of fights, it should be representative of the quality of competition.

Clive

I bid €5 and Worms:Armageddon for PS1.

Bres

Chris89 wrote: »

The price doesn't relate to the number of fights, it should be representative of the quality of competition.

I agree, but you do often hear people complaining that they paid so much and only had 1 fight.

youllneverknow

fair enough its round robin and people will have more then 1 fight but €25 for an inhouse competition that doesnt have to worry about hiring mats or renting a venue is steep

Spideog Rua

There was a competition in a Dublin gym last year which was €15 and double elimination. Got a great turnout too.

I think €25 is too expensive and as such i will not attending this. I understand pricing and breakeven points, but there comes a point when you are simply taking advantage.

If anyone from the IBJJA reads this, could the advise when the next competition will be? They have run one competition this year, and that's simply not enough.

ATMatm

Given Spartan's track record of quality competitions plus the fact that it's a round robin tournament €25 euro is fine.

We need more comps in Ireland and Spartan are obliging.

Also their comps run on time, always have good referees and generally get a good turnout. Can't see the problem.

Performance Martial Arts

I agree. We do need more comps and ive been at the Spartan ones and they run fine. 25euro seems ok to me and we will be supporting this and i may drag my own big ass onto the mats too

cowzerp

I can only talk for my club but travelling to a venue and then paying 25 euro is a hard sell for me to my lads.

I think in an age where lads can Box, fight MMA, do kick-boxing for free then paying to do submission wrestling is a hard sell, even harder when its in house and the rent bills ain't there to justify the price.

10 euro to me would be a token gesture and may get more participants and probably make for a better competition and probably more money too.

I think clubs who do the MMA league regular may be more used to paying to fight but clubs who mainly go on shows and don't pay will struggle to get lads to cough up

crosdad

If you and another competitor put those 25 quid together you could get a brazzer for that, thats all im saying.

reganreggie

crosdad wrote: »

If you and another competitor put those 25 quid together you could get a brazzer for that, thats all im saying.

Not sure you understand the diffence between a gi comp and not a g** comp.:p

Spideog Rua

ATMatm wrote: »

Given Spartan's track record of quality competitions plus the fact that it's a round robin tournament €25 euro is fine. .

Could you expand on Spartans tracks record of quality competitions ie how many competitions have they run and how many competitos are they getting at each?

In either case, €25 is too expensive.

pablohoney87

Dam ya richie. Ya got a genuine loud laugh outta me in work

Bres

Date might be changing to the 2nd of September... anyone know if performance martial arts low kick show is on daytime or evening?

Performance Martial Arts

Yeah my show is on all day starting at 10am. Heres the poster and details,

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431853363533727&set=a.108647469187653.7364.100001272018965&type=1&theater

Chris89

Competitions are far better on saturdays in my opinion, Will many people interested in competing even know what a low kick show is? I know I certainly dont.

Bres

We may postpone this comp then, I don't want it to conflict with another show. I would prefer the Saturday but there are club gradings that day

youllneverknow

why not the Saturday after and lower the price.

reganreggie

The saturday the 8th has both battlezone6 and the no gi cup, then you have the rumble in rush the 22nd.

Performance Martial Arts

Bres wrote: »

We may postpone this comp then, I don't want it to conflict with another show. I would prefer the Saturday but there are club gradings that day

Just for the record i dont have any problem what so ever and my show is a junior kickboxing show anyway so i dont see it conflicting at all guys.

youllneverknow

Saturday afte then. Its not exactly rocket science to pick a day that doesnt conflict with an other show

lawrencesummers

Chris89 wrote: »

Competitions are far better on saturdays in my opinion, Will many people interested in competing even know what a low kick show is? I know I certainly dont.

There is a solid clue in the title....

Chris89

If there is a football match on the same day as the tournament, would we call it off?

steviemac

So is this going ahead or not ???????

StcIreland

steviemac wrote: »

So is this going ahead or not ???????

yes this will go ahead but we are gonna change the date to the end of september now.

Bres

StcIreland wrote: »

yes this will go ahead but we are gonna change the date to the end of september now.

Saturday the 29th of september!!!

slammer187

Bres wrote: »

Saturday the 29th of september!!!

The UK Premiership BJJ Championships are gonna be on in Newcastle on that day, it'll only cost around 80 euro to go so you might not get much of a turnout on that day

da-bres

Il be at the premier championships, have it earlier in september

slammer187

Can we get a confirmed date?

StcIreland

slammer187 wrote: »

Can we get a confirmed date?

the final date for this event is the 22nd of september

StcIreland

also lowered the entry fee for everyone to 20 euro

Dermighty

Hope the comp goes well.

€20 is very expensive for a run of the mill comp and above all the weight divisions aren't really appealing!

Rooneymara

"Weight divisions
Under 57.5,64,70,76,82,88,84,open"

I presume 84 is actually 94kg, and in my opinion the weight categories are fine.

Spideog Rua

What's wrong with IBJJF weight categories? Also, why no advantages?

StcIreland

Dermighty wrote: »

Hope the comp goes well.

€20 is very expensive for a run of the mill comp and above all the weight divisions aren't really appealing!

thanks for the well wishes, 20 euro is the lowest we can do with covering the cost of medals and medics etc

the weight divisions are ibjjf standard weight divisions so we did not come up with them

StcIreland

Spideog Rua wrote: »

What's wrong with IBJJF weight categories? Also, why no advantages?

we want to try encourage people to finish fights or win by points really not advantages, also it makes the referees job a little bit easier

Dermighty

StcIreland wrote: »

thanks for the well wishes, 20 euro is the lowest we can do with covering the cost of medals and medics etc

the weight divisions are ibjjf standard weight divisions so we did not come up with them

What I mean is I think 84kg is too low for the final division before open weight. They're not really IBJJF weight divisions as the IBJJF has a few more above 84kg before open.

thegreatiam

StcIreland wrote: »

Weight divisions
Under 57.5,64,70,76,82,88,84,open

This will be a points competition and there will be no advantages

looks like a typo to me, 82,88,94,open

this site has 82,88,94,100,open so it looks like they have missed off 100kg and made a typo on the last. no biggie

http://www.ibjjf.org/TABELA-PESO-OFICIAL-3-ingles.pdf

Spideog Rua

StcIreland wrote: »

we want to try encourage people to finish fights or win by points really not advantages, also it makes the referees job a little bit easier

Are you using IBJJF rules and IBJJF qualified referees? If so, advantages shouldnt really be a problem.

How will a fight be decided if it's level on points after time runs out?

Chris89

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Are you using IBJJF rules and IBJJF qualified referees? If so, advantages shouldnt really be a problem.

How will a fight be decided if it's level on points after time runs out?

will you relax

StcIreland

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Are you using IBJJF rules and IBJJF qualified referees? If so, advantages shouldnt really be a problem.

How will a fight be decided if it's level on points after time runs out?

the referees are qualified yes, and we are using the ibjjf rules but without advantages

since we are doing a round robing if a fight is a draw on points each competitor get 1 points, the winner is decided by who has the most points at the end

Chris89

StcIreland wrote: »

the referees are qualified yes, and we are using the ibjjf rules but without advantages

since we are doing a round robing if a fight is a draw on points each competitor get 1 points, the winner is decided by who has the most points at the end

Oh, who are the referees!?

StcIreland

Chris89 wrote: »

Oh, who are the referees!?

ill name and shame

i have darragh o conaill, john sheridan, joey breslin and tom bermingham so far maybe a 1 or 2 more yet to be confirmed

Spideog Rua

Chris89 wrote: »

will you relax

What do you mean? Copacetic

reganreggie

StcIreland wrote: »

ill name and shame

i have darragh o conaill, john sheridan, joey breslin and tom bermingham so far maybe a 1 or 2 more yet to be confirmed

Yeah i suppose they will do. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

darced

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StcIreland

darced wrote: »

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thanks for that, and as always we dont charge a spectator fee so if you wanna come watch some beautiful jiu jitsu pop down