How are Indian takeways here so expensive?

BhoscaCapall

Just a quick look on JustEat (I know it can be slightly dearer), €20 for a curry (jalfrezi) and rice. That includes five quid delivery. Five quid, that's only a couple euro less than a taxi!

You're looking at around forty quid just to feed two people, and that's just one course and probably not even drinks. Insane.

pleasant Co.

It's baffling right! I ordered from sahi palace the last night as I found it to be the best value, cooked the rice myself though as I was going to be waiting an hour anyway.

Takeaway from sahi was nice but very oily, I'd use them again...in moderation.

BhoscaCapall

Having to pay for rice is an odd one as well. When you order a main course in most places it comes with spuds or veg or chips or whatever. You're hardly going to eat the curry by itself.

People will say it's probably included in the price in the former example, but it's not as if the curry alone is cheap. How much does it cost to sit in at these places?

Shocking when you compare to somewhere like Glasgow where £20 at the Indian would feed a family of 4

avfc1874

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Having to pay for rice is an odd one as well. When you order a main course in most places it comes with spuds or veg or chips or whatever. You're hardly going to eat the curry by itself.

People will say it's probably included in the price in the former example, but it's not as if the curry alone is cheap. How much does it cost to sit in at these places?

Shocking when you compare to somewhere like Glasgow where £20 at the Indian would feed a family of 4

totally agree. was in birmingham not to long ago, 2 chicken baltis, 2 large nanns 2 starters with free popadoms £18. our local curry house in town we visited once.. 2 chicken tandori, 2 tiny nanns, popadoms, 1 starter E34:eek:

ben.schlomo

avfc1874 wrote: »

totally agree. was in birmingham not to long ago, 2 chicken baltis, 2 large nanns 2 starters with free popadoms £18. our local curry house in town we visited once.. 2 chicken tandori, 2 tiny nanns, popadoms, 1 starter E34:eek:

Brum has about about 700 curry houses compared to Galways ten id guess!!

BhoscaCapall

The usual excuse is that they charge what people will pay, but I don't actually know anybody in who's ordered an Indian in Galway. You would think they'd want to compete with the Chinese and Pizza places.

I mean pizza places are a notorious rip off, but €20 will get you a large pizza with drinks and 1+ sides which is enough to feed 2 people. The same at an Indian barely feeds one.

cfeeneyinterior

Totally miffed aswell. Its not as if they are so fancy and exotic that they have to be so expensive. Why don't we loose some kebab shops for a few indians.... no cowboy setups though ........ badaboom

Sulla Felix

I'd often order the curry without rice, with a GOC naan or some saag aloo instead of it.

StonedRaider

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Brum has about about 700 curry houses compared to Galways ten id guess!!

That's why they are allowed to overcharge in Galway?

7oz chicken fillet cost restaurants apprx 86cents each
good quality basmati €1.10 per kg
spices mostly all under €4 per kg

ben.schlomo

StonedRaider wrote: »

That's why they are allowed to overcharge in Galway?

7oz chicken fillet cost restaurants apprx 86cents each
good quality basmati €1.10 per kg
spices mostly all under €4 per kg

No thats why there would be a difference in the amount charged between both places due to the far larger volume of available eateries of that particular type, get it now? :rolleyes:

thesandeman

I've said it before but I think a proper Indian TAKE AWAY would do brilliant in town. I always feel self conscious about standing around in a restaurant waiting for my food. Also a take away would have less overheads so could probably afford to sell at chipper prices.

kraggy

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Brum has about about 700 curry houses compared to Galways ten id guess!!

What are the ten these days? I don't live in Galway anymore. I can only think of

Kashmir
Eastern Tandoori
The one on Buttermilk Lane
Shama/that one facing Cobwebs/The Townhouse

What others are there?

beardybrewer

I also agree, in America Indian is as cheap as Chinese. They are defo more proper restaurant prices here so we never bother with them. When we really get a desperate craving we get the M&S indian. They used to have a better selection, but they are still good for now and then.

chickendinner

If it is too expensive, don`t pay for it
Nobody forced you to buy it.
Make your own dinner.

irisheddie85

Some of them do takeaway discounts you don't get on just eat to cover their cost. I think kumars and eastern tandoori include rice. Olives in salthill have grabone offers regularly that make them cheap.

topcat77

Has anyone noticed the sign on the Eastern Tandoori? "Indian cuisine for DISCRIMINATING Gourmet" makes me laugh every time i pass. Can't remember the last curry i ordered in Ireland, find them of poor quality and very expensive. i can cook a far better curry myself if i do say so

Lapin

chickendinner wrote: »

If it is too expensive, don`t pay for it
Nobody forced you to buy it.
Make your own dinner.

Not really a helpful answer to the thread title is it ?

Seaneh

I reckon the reason is that over here Indian's don't market themselves as take aways.
They are all "proper" restaurants and are priced as such.

In Athlone a few of the Kebab places do indian dishes (korma's, Balti's etc) and they charge prices which would be comparable to the chinese take aways. Pretty good indian too.

I know the kebab place beside kelly's (best naan in galway, btw, hands down) have a few curries on the menu.


In the UK most of the curry houses are just like kebab shops/chippers in set up, it's a take away not arestaurant, hence the price difference.

Mrs OBumble

Kashmir
Eastern Tandoori
The one on Buttermilk Lane
Shama/that one facing Cobwebs An Cupan Tae /The Townhouse

Seaneh wrote: »

I reckon the reason is that over here Indian's don't market themselves as take aways.
They are all "proper" restaurants and are priced as such.

And there is your answer: it's not just marketing, there is no Indian take-away in Galway city. There are some restaurants that kindly offer their dishes packaged for take-out, but that is a whole different thing to a "take-away" - among other things, they cannot cater to the volume needed to make lower prices viable, and still keep their dining experience pleasant for their core customers.

Sounds like a market opportunity for someone.

biko

Galway doesn't have a curry culture like UK.
Indian and Chinese are the most common takeaways in UK, in Galway it's Chinese and pizza. As Mary said, there is no takeaways, just real restaurants that also delivers. They still have all the restaurant costs.

chickendinner

Lapin wrote: »

Not really a helpful answer to the thread title is it ?

I hope the irony of your post is not lost on you.

ScumLord

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Having to pay for rice is an odd one as well. When you order a main course in most places it comes with spuds or veg or chips or whatever. You're hardly going to eat the curry by itself.

It could also depend on how they deliver, if they're on a bike they may have limited space. If they have room for one thing it doesn't matter to the delivery guy whether the food going into that space is worth €1 or €10 the spot itself has a value which adds to the cost..

avfc1874 wrote: »

totally agree. was in birmingham not to long ago, 2 chicken baltis, 2 large nanns 2 starters with free popadoms £18. our local curry house in town we visited once.. 2 chicken tandori, 2 tiny nanns, popadoms, 1 starter E34:eek:

like ben.schlomo pointed out Birmingham is not only a UK capitol but probably and international capitol of Indian food, a lot of the Indian dishes we know would have been invented there.
The fact there's huge competition forces better food and service, there's also the fact they're run by Indians or at the very least people obsessed with good Indian food.

There's also the fact that al these foreign foods have been changed to suit what Irish people would actually eat. They're probably afraid if they start making more traditional Indian food Irish people will freak out and go running home for safe food like bacon and cabbage.

beardybrewer

Anyone try the prepared indian dishes in Joyces? They have a look of homemade about them. See the deli dept right as you enter.

biko

newkie wrote: »

Anyone try the prepared indian dishes in Joyces? They have a look of homemade about them. See the deli dept right as you enter.

I've seen them delivered by an Indian woman and her son? so it's the real deal anyway. Have tried them yet.

swine

newkie wrote: »

Anyone try the prepared indian dishes in Joyces? They have a look of homemade about them. See the deli dept right as you enter.

I bought a butter chicken a few months back, was quite tasty. They seemed to be sold without rice initially for 7 euro but then with? Anyway, it was good if a little overpriced.

beardybrewer

swine wrote: »

I bought a butter chicken a few months back, was quite tasty. They seemed to be sold without rice initially for 7 euro but then with? Anyway, it was good if a little overpriced.

Funny how people's perception of value changes when something is bought from a store. If it were restaurant quality (possibly better if homemade) it sounds like quite a value compared to the indian restaurant prices quoted in this thread.

Just last night I was with a large group in Massimos who each paid €15 for a burnt waffer of pizza. All I could think was I could get a Chicago Town in Dunnes for less than €5.

I'm tempting myself in to trying a couple of the of the choices from Joyces but if there is no nann bread what's the point? If I have to go to M&S for nann bread anyhow I'll probably end up just buying everything there.

desaparecidos

newkie wrote: »

I'm tempting myself in to trying a couple of the of the choices from Joyces but if there is no nann bread what's the point? If I have to go to M&S for nann bread anyhow I'll probably end up just buying everything there.

Get the naan bread from an Indian restaurant. Genuine naan from a resturant beats store bought naan hands down, and is about the same price.

Gingernuts31

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Just a quick look on JustEat (I know it can be slightly dearer), €20 for a curry (jalfrezi) and rice. That includes five quid delivery. Five quid, that's only a couple euro less than a taxi!

You're looking at around forty quid just to feed two people, and that's just one course and probably not even drinks. Insane.

They have to import their indian friends to work in the takeaways. Have to make the money back somehow .

Seaneh

Skip a restaurant.

Go the the kebab place beside kelly's their naan is amazing. Dunno what anything else is like but their naan is great, got the tip from a Pakistani cab driver a while back, made a murgh makhani not long ago and decided to use their naan with it as a trial, was delighted with the outcome, was pretty cheap too.

Same guy told me he will often buy the donar meat from another shop (either capitol or charcoal) and the naan from there and combine them himself at home.

BhoscaCapall

Seaneh wrote: »

I know the kebab place beside kelly's (best naan in galway, btw, hands down)

Worst kebabs I've ever seen though

Seaneh

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Worst kebabs I've ever seen though

Yeah, wasn't brave enough to try one, just bought their naan a few times.

Seaneh

Right lads, who want's to go halves on the lease of an industrial unit with me, find some indian chefs, open a take away and watch the money roll in.

Charge €10 for a curry, bismati and naan and watch the money roll in.

Nobody?

ok

Sulla Felix

desaparecidos wrote: »

newkie wrote: »

I'm tempting myself in to trying a couple of the of the choices from Joyces but if there is no nann bread what's the point? If I have to go to M&S for nann bread anyhow I'll probably end up just buying everything there.

Get the naan bread from an Indian restaurant. Genuine naan from a resturant beats store bought naan hands down, and is about the same price.

This. Even when I cook myself I'll sometimes get naan from the local.

ScumLord

Seaneh wrote: »

Right lads, who want's to go halves on the lease of an industrial unit with me, find some indian chefs, open a take away and watch the money roll in.

Charge €10 for a curry, bismati and naan and watch the money roll in.

Nobody?

ok

Your business model is lacking in details, I'm out.

Shakti

naan, roti and paratha are quite simple to make at home,
for the price of one shop/take-away bought you can make a dozen at home

Seaneh

ScumLord wrote: »

Your business model is lacking in details, I'm out.

Free chipati and saag for all investors.

Seaneh

Shakti wrote: »

naan, roti and paratha are quite simple to make at home,
for the price of one shop/take-away bought you can make a dozen at home

I can make about 15 loafs of bread for the same price as a loaf in a bakery but to be honest I couldn't be arsed, what's your point?

Like wise, when I was a chef I could make about 25 times the amount of puff pastry for the money we bought rolls of pre-made puff in at, but why ****ing bother when it's so much effort?

I don't have a tandoor in my kitchen and naan name in a normal oven isn't nearly as good.
Just like I don't have stone pizza oven and while I can make a good base and sauce myself it won't be as good in my oven cooked on a lump of granite, so every now and then I'll buy one from Napoli in town because they can make a better pizza than I can.

I brew my own beer, but I still enjoy a nice pint in a pub.


And so forth.

Shakti

Seaneh wrote: »

I can make about 15 loafs of bread for the same price as a loaf in a bakery but to be honest I couldn't be arsed, what's your point?

Like wise, when I was a chef I could make about 25 times the amount of puff pastry for the money we bought rolls of pre-made puff in at, but why ****ing bother when it's so much effort?

I don't have a tandoor in my kitchen and naan name in a normal oven isn't nearly as good.
Just like I don't have stone pizza oven and while I can make a good base and sauce myself it won't be as good in my oven cooked on a lump of granite, so every now and then I'll buy one from Napoli in town because they can make a better pizza than I can.

I brew my own beer, but I still enjoy a nice pint in a pub.


And so forth.

my point is.............

Shakti wrote: »

naan, roti and paratha are quite simple to make at home,
for the price of one shop/take-away bought you can make a dozen at home

also you dont need a tandoor to make authentic naan same way you dont need a turf fire to boil the spuds.

GuessWho2009

Alot of money to be saved if u shop around, Just eat have olives main courses at 15.50 to 18.50 and there all only €10 on whatsfordinner, also on kumars just eat charge for rice and chips with main courses, whats for dinner doesnt and they have a cheaper delivery, so for 2 main course ya save a fiver or in olives for 2 main courses ya could save 17 euro

BhoscaCapall

GuessWho2009 wrote: »

Alot of money to be saved if u shop around, Just eat have olives main courses at 15.50 to 18.50 and there all only €10 on whatsfordinner, also on kumars just eat charge for rice and chips with main courses, whats for dinner doesnt and they have a cheaper delivery, so for 2 main course ya save a fiver or in olives for 2 main courses ya could save 17 euro

Never using Whatsfordinner again unfortunately

Stevolende

Is it the lack of an Indian population over here? Just wondering if the Southside of Dublin is any better pricewise, there's an area there that has been through several different ethnic populatons (used to be a big Jewish area definitely) over the last 100+ years & when I was in Dublin a couple of decades back the current population seemed to be largely Indian. So wondering if that means prices on takeaway food there reflective.
Or if it is just a Republic wide high price thing.

I don't remember having had an Indian takeaway since i've been in this town , probably put off greatly by the prices.

Have noticed that there are a couple of Indian warehouse outlets for ingredients so presumably there must be some Indian population in this town. Do they have any outlets off the beaten track for takeaway food?

Stevolende

Would love to see somebody set up a tandoor and do while you wait take out naan breads like the stalls cropping up in London these days. Think it only requires a limited amount of space, not sure how deep one of the ovens would be. Have been imagining them to be quite deep but may be just going by an image of a traditional tandoor pit oven I saw on tv years ago & the stall one only be 3-4 feet deep.

Sulla Felix

Stevolende wrote: »

Is it the lack of an Indian population over here? Just wondering if the Southside of Dublin is any better pricewise, there's an area there that has been through several different ethnic populatons (used to be a big Jewish area definitely) over the last 100+ years & when I was in Dublin a couple of decades back the current population seemed to be largely Indian. So wondering if that means prices on takeaway food there reflective.
Or if it is just a Republic wide high price thing.

I don't remember having had an Indian takeaway since i've been in this town , probably put off greatly by the prices.

Have noticed that there are a couple of Indian warehouse outlets for ingredients so presumably there must be some Indian population in this town. Do they have any outlets off the beaten track for takeaway food?

My initial post was going to be about Dublin at last being cheaper for -something-. If you're ever up check out Mary st. Excellent restaurant there that does takeaway for about 6-7 inc rice or naan. Place always packed with Indians etc.

beardybrewer

Hey guys, just looking at JustEat (thinking ahead for Friday night) and noticed Sahi Palace and Paprika are a bit more in line with Chinese takeaway prices (e.g. Chicken Tikka Masala for €8.95 and €10.25 respectively). Anyone have experience with either?

Seaneh

Paprika is decent, ate there before.

doctorchick

Having been born and bred in Birmingham I was pretty much spoilt for choice and value when it came to curries, and have paid mere pennies for some of the nicest curries ever there. Once had some work visitors walk out of a balti house in Birmingham when they saw how cheap it was (plus menus under clear perspex on table) thinking they were going to get poisoned, I stayed and had a fantastic feed. When I moved to Oslo I paid horrendously expensive prices for indian food that was suprisingly mediocre. Remember going for a sit-down for 2, having one starter and one main each and a bottle of house wine and paying the equivalent of over 100 EUR for the privilege (wine was no more than 30 EUR).

So I would say yes, Galway curries are on the pricier side, but it could be a lot lot worse.

Iain

coleria

Hey guys,

I just wanna let ye know about a place that opened just before xmas, Its beside Laurel Park Stores/Shop.

Its an Indian takeaway but not really what we think of takeaways, as in you have to heat the food up when you get home. Its a husband and wife team, I think the wife does all the cooking fresh that day, and everything is cooked and served in a TV dinner style thingy that you just throw in the microwave.

I was at the shop before xmas and saw the guy and was curious, (cause I love curry) and asked for a menu, but the guy said they didn't have menus but then said hang on, and came out and gave me chicken tika with rice and some chicken drumsticks, I tried to give him money but he didnt want any. IMHO I thought it was lovely, so did everyone who tasted it. Now heres the great thing, €4.50 for veg or €6.50 for meat dishes, pretty cool since an indian is usually €10+

They also do cooking courses, I dont know details, just something on the window.

I dont have any connection with the place, just wanted to spread the word, ye can judge the place for yourselves.

If I'm passing I'll drop in and try and get more details and post.

beardybrewer

And for those who don't frequent Joyce's they now have a refrigerated prepared foods section to the immediate left of the entrance. Olive's seems to have a deal with them so there are both Indian and Thai choices. They are a fraction the cost of the takeaway version (I think €7.50 for a main with rice). They now seem to have fresh naan bread which makes this a contender over M&S indian in any case.

GerardKeating

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Brum has about about 700 curry houses compared to Galways ten id guess!!

But Brum is a slightly larger Population than Galway..

ben.schlomo

coleria wrote: »

Hey guys,

I just wanna let ye know about a place that opened just before xmas, Its beside Laurel Park Stores/Shop.

Its an Indian takeaway but not really what we think of takeaways, as in you have to heat the food up when you get home. Its a husband and wife team, I think the wife does all the cooking fresh that day, and everything is cooked and served in a TV dinner style thingy that you just throw in the microwave.

I was at the shop before xmas and saw the guy and was curious, (cause I love curry) and asked for a menu, but the guy said they didn't have menus but then said hang on, and came out and gave me chicken tika with rice and some chicken drumsticks, I tried to give him money but he didnt want any. IMHO I thought it was lovely, so did everyone who tasted it. Now heres the great thing, €4.50 for veg or €6.50 for meat dishes, pretty cool since an indian is usually €10+

They also do cooking courses, I dont know details, just something on the window.

I dont have any connection with the place, just wanted to spread the word, ye can judge the place for yourselves.

If I'm passing I'll drop in and try and get more details and post.

Wonder if its the same one sold in Supervalu Fr Griffin, its in takeaway plastic dishes with a yellow looking label if memory serves,doesnt look particularly appealing though.

BhoscaCapall

Keep meaning to try the Laurel Park place. Unfortunately for me 90% of the reason I get a takeaway is because it's delivered. If I could be arsed going out and collecting it then I may as well just cook myself something.