Grid 2

Potential-Monke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJW2ZiBvC8

The first one was fantastic, had the right amount of realism against the right amount of arcade. One of a few racing games where i kept playing. Looking forward to this.

Zero-Cool

I was looking forward to it but Codemasters said that because of the low number of people who use Cockpit view, they won't have Cockpit View in the game.

I usually play external view on racing games but since Shift 2, I have become hooked on the cockpit and them leaving it out puts me right off this.

2smiggy

grid was on of the best racers, i had good fun online with it. i can live without the cockpit view , if it means more time spent on the rest of the game

ShadowHearth

sheehy83 wrote: »

I was looking forward to it but Codemasters said that because of the low number of people who use Cockpit view, they won't have Cockpit View in the game.

I usually play external view on racing games but since Shift 2, I have become hooked on the cockpit and them leaving it out puts me right off this.

are they droping?! **** that so... cockpit view is the best thing about racing games!

Sabre0001

Very excited about Grid 2. Destruction Derby better feature! Grid was an amazing game - went back and played it after I saw the Announcement Trailer and it's still fun.

Dcully

Codemasters bowing to the arcade crowd yet again, no surprise at all.

had the right amount of realism

Are you for real mate?
It had zero realism.

Potential-Monke

Dcully wrote: »

Are you for real mate?
It had zero realism.

It had great car models, decent damage, great looking tracks, and the right balance of realistic and arcade handling. It also had an alright rival aspect and sponsorships like in real life. Granted, it's no Forza or GT, but at least i didn't get bored senseless half way through this.

Dcully

Potential-Monke wrote: »

It had great car models, decent damage, great looking tracks, and the right balance of realistic and arcade handling. It also had an alright rival aspect and sponsorships like in real life. Granted, it's no Forza or GT, but at least i didn't get bored senseless half way through this.

I wouldnt exacly put forza or GT into the realism category either mate.

Potential-Monke

Dcully wrote: »

I wouldnt exacly put forza or GT into the realism category either mate.

That is their intention though. What are the realistic racing games in your opinion, just so we can compare.

Zero-Cool

Ya lads these are still games. GT and Forza are the Realistic simulators and NFS are arcadey. I know there are more realistic sim driving games out there but there is a point when you would just be better off getting into your car and going for a spin.

I see Grid 1 going well cheap these days. I think I finished it before but wouldn't mind given it a go again.

Dcully

Potential-Monke wrote: »

That is their intention though. What are the realistic racing games in your opinion, just so we can compare.

iracing,rfactor,GTR series,GPL,LFS,Netkar etc

Dont get me wrong, forza etc are decent and do indeed strike a nice balance for casual racers just nowhere near the realism of iracing etc for those into hardcore realism.

ScumLord

I like Grid, it was fun but I've since started playing sims which kind of ruins these games, they become far to easy and lack any real depth in the actual driving of the cars. The realism in games like Kart Race Pro is so deep you can spend hours on one track in one particular kart and have a constantly changing experience that you don't want to walk away from until your arms go weak (if you've a FFB wheel).

sheehy83 wrote: »

I was looking forward to it but Codemasters said that because of the low number of people who use Cockpit view, they won't have Cockpit View in the game.

I wouldn't mind to much, I'm not a fan of cockpit view I like to sit on the bonnet. When your driving a car in real life that's really your view, you drown out anything inside the windscreen for the most part and only need to know where the edges of the car are.

sheehy83 wrote: »

I know there are more realistic sim driving games out there but there is a point when you would just be better off getting into your car and going for a spin.

Ya, a 1.6 diesel and a Ferrari are pretty much the same thing. :pac:

Zero-Cool

ScumLord wrote: »

Ya, a 1.6 diesel and a Ferrari are pretty much the same thing. :pac:

Aw you don't own a ferrari? lousy. I prefer the Lambo, the ferrari is just my day to day car really

ScumLord

sheehy83 wrote: »

Aw you don't own a ferrari? lousy. I prefer the Lambo, the ferrari is just my day to day car really

I had to get rid of it, while doing 12 runs to the shop due to the tiny boot was fun it was costing way to much in fuel and it was taking ages to get the shopping done.

Zero-Cool

New teaser trailer. Everytime I hear anything about this, I get the feeling to play Shift 2. Still not sure if this will be any good or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bph8lz-1n6Y

ScumLord

sheehy83 wrote: »

New teaser trailer. Everytime I hear anything about this, I get the feeling to play Shift 2.

Wasn't shift 2 the one where the cars just waved around weirdly even when travelling in a straight line. It didn't feel like the car was connected to the ground at all. Lovely looking but I found it completely unplayable.


I've bought NetKar Pro (€15) which will keep me occupied until assetto corsa comes out. I don't think I could go back to a simplified racing game now, the cars are too tame.

cherryghost

ScumLord wrote: »

Wasn't shift 2 the one where the cars just waved around weirdly even when travelling in a straight line. It didn't feel like the car was connected to the ground at all. Lovely looking but I found it completely unplayable.


I've bought NetKar Pro (€15) which will keep me occupied until assetto corsa comes out. I don't think I could go back to a simplified racing game now, the cars are too tame.

Fairly sure I posted in that Shift 2 thread with control settings. The default settings are rubbish and really takes the game down a notch.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to Grid 2. Had plenty of laughs and craic with the lads over the years playing Grid.

ScumLord

cherryghost wrote: »

Fairly sure I posted in that Shift 2 thread with control settings. The default settings are rubbish and really takes the game down a notch.

I remember that, it didn't really do me much good though I could never find a setting that made the cars feel right.

Zero-Cool

CVG went hands on with the single player mode and I'm always interested in racing games that had some sort of a story in the background and this sounds fairly good.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/390654/previews/grid-2-single-player-is-like-gladiators-with-cars/?page=1#top_banner

cherryghost

IMO whoever thought it would be a good idea to put stories in single player racing games deserves to be shot.

TOCA Race Driver series had it. Awesome game completely let down by the idiotic story that followed it.

anirishlad

What happened to toca race driver?? Played the original and absolutely loved it but you cant find it anymore

Potential-Monke

anirishlad wrote: »

What happened to toca race driver?? Played the original and absolutely loved it but you cant find it anymore

This is the spiritual successor. There were 3 TOCA Racer Drivers, then a Race Driver: Create and Race, then Race Driver: Grid, and now just Grid 2!

TBH, I rather stories more than the games, and the inclusion of a story, crap or good, will keep me playing. Prime example being the last Grid game, loved it outright. GT5 and Forza 4 bored me to tears after the initial "This game looks amazing", and the more realistic sims mentions above are a bit too real for my liking: i don't get any enjoyment out of fine tuning and tweaking, never did really. General tuning, yes, fine tuning, no.

kaimera

best in game tyre smoke ever. and the damage is a1 sharon.

love grid, loved the drifting.

on my list when the cast comes off!

Angron

cherryghost wrote: »

IMO whoever thought it would be a good idea to put stories in single player racing games deserves to be shot.

TOCA Race Driver series had it. Awesome game completely let down by the idiotic story that followed it.

The idea that there needs to be a story in a pure racing game beyond "Win these races" is a bit baffling to me. They don't need one, people bought the game to race cars.

Zero-Cool

I like the sound of the story here though. Usually if I go to a menu, pick a track I have already raced in a specific car I might not have interest in and just decide to play it later but th whole racing league sounds like you are actually accomplising something (getting more fans, sponsors, racers) to grow the league. That would definitely keep me playing '1 more race' more than if it was mindless track racing.

ScumLord

Denny M wrote: »

The idea that there needs to be a story in a pure racing game beyond "Win these races" is a bit baffling to me. They don't need one, people bought the game to race cars.

I don't mind the stories as such, they bring a little immersion and pomp to the game. They do help fill in some of the lack of depth on track.

If it wasn't for all that extra pomp they would just be mediocre sims.

cherryghost

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't mind the stories as such, they bring a little immersion and pomp to the game. They do help fill in some of the lack of depth on track.

If it wasn't for all that extra pomp they would just be mediocre sims.

From experience the storylines weren't very deep anyway. To me it was just pointless drivel and cutscenes that interrupt gameplay.

And don't get me started with tutorials! GRID had none but since the first iteration Codemasters games have got progressively worse with these unavoidable tutorials, holding your hand every step of the way until you can actually sit back and play the game for what it is.

ScumLord

cherryghost wrote: »

From experience the storylines weren't very deep anyway. To me it was just pointless drivel and cutscenes that interrupt gameplay.

And don't get me started with tutorials! GRID had none but since the first iteration Codemasters games have got progressively worse with these unavoidable tutorials, holding your hand every step of the way until you can actually sit back and play the game for what it is.

That's pretty common these days in console games. They're trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

On the Pc you've got the the exact opposite. You get an incredibly complicated game that just makes no logical sense and are expected to decode everything and work out how to play it. Sometimes the manual and help you get is just as complicated. Or sparse, because they just throw jargon at you expecting you to just know what their waffling on about.

Zero-Cool

Multiplayer vid showing Live track in on the Dubai course. Live Track is a feature where the course can change every race meaning it no one will ever know if a right turn or a left turn is coming up. Sounds good and could keep races fresh. Drivers making more mistakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTAWgw8lB7o

cherryghost

Yeah been following the multiplayer aspects over the last few months. Sounds really thorough. Can't wait for it.

Zero-Cool

Cheevos/Trophies announced.

Some very clever ones like

Shaken, Not Stirred - You rolled a car at least 7 times and landed on its wheels, just like Bond did (20G)

Imma Let You Finish - You amassed more fans than Taylor Swift has Twitter followers. That's 23.5 million, by the way (30G)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/405305/grid-2-achievements-revealed/

Zero-Cool

This is looking more and more like a day one purchase.

EDIT: Also, this is on the playstation store for digital preorder for 49.99 euro and includes 3 preorder dlc packs.

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-ie/games/grid-2/cid=EP4001-NPEJ00156_00-B000000000000453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MIDkgKm9sQ

Suryavarman

I posted this in the gaming bargains thread as well but I thought I should post it here too as well.

Digital Download version of Grid 2 for the PC is available for £17.99 (~€21.30) on Simply Games

Zero-Cool

It's up for pre-order on gamesnash for 47.99 euro

http://gamesnash.ie/ps3-all-new-games-c-58_28/grid-2-ps3-pre-order-with-lowest-price-guarantee-p-2768.html

Zero-Cool

10 facts about Grid 2 on Gamesradar. The AI and Handling system sounds impressive and the theory of if you like to just bash your way around a course, you will most likely be paired up with other aggressive drivers leaving clean drivers matched with their own kind online.

http://www.gamesradar.com/grid2-news-release-date/

ScumLord

with the changing track races I wonder will it be a surprise to the AI too? Or will they be able to race through the course knowing what corners are coming up?

Sabre0001

Would there be much interest in a racing league of sorts after release? (though collisions would have to be watched Scrapes happen, but we don't want every race to be a turn one destruction derby!)

Pixelbastardo

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Very excited about Grid 2. Destruction Derby better feature! Grid was an amazing game - went back and played it after I saw the Announcement Trailer and it's still fun.

Destruction derby!, now theres a franchise that could do with a reboot next gen. Still got my original ps1 copy.

Yeah destruction derby is fun, but you know what would make it real fun ?, cockpit view!
you want first person immersion in a game like this, so when a car rams into your right door at 80mph, its a surprise!, BAMB!. 3rd person view is too tactical.

Zero-Cool

A racing league would be class. Wonder if there are online clubs? Also good point about ai knowing on the fly corners. That random corner generator is meant only for human players but I read if you cant get 12 players in a race, the ai fills up the rest of the spaces. 12 players on a random corner course could be a great laugh.

ziggyman17

looking forward to this.. looks good.. also seems codemasters have put a lot into the multiplayer..

Zero-Cool

In depth vid looking at the customisation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R09lpBmFr4

Zero-Cool

OK, hands down best collectors edition of all time! Only costs £125,000. I might have to trade in a few games against it.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce the GRID 2 Mono Edition, which includes, for one lucky gamer, the following:

• A copy of GRID 2 for PlayStation 3 including bespoke artwork
• An actual 170 mph BAC Mono supercar in exclusive GRID 2 livery
• A day at the BAC factory, including a factory tour and time spent with technicians to customise the BAC Mono for size and specifications
• A GRID 2: Mono Edition-branded Bell Racing helmet
• Race suit, boots and gloves, all made to measure in BAC Mono and GRID 2 branding
• A PlayStation 3
• Did we say AN ACTUAL BAC Mono supercar? Yeah, one of them.

Big Knox

sheehy83 wrote: »

OK, hands down best collectors edition of all time! Only costs £125,000. I might have to trade in a few games against it.


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How much will Gamestop give me for Grid 1 and Tiger Woods 09? That should cover it right?

Zero-Cool

Just preordered with Gamesnash, I didn't like the colour of the Bac Mono in the collectors edition :cool:

Mad to give this a go. 1 week to go!

Here is a look at how the online works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1erhGWhDZ3A

cherryghost

I've preordered. Predownload is already on Steam. Circa 13.5GB

kaimera

cherryghost wrote: »

I've preordered. Predownload is already on Steam. Circa 13.5GB

damn you.

I'm torn between getting it for pc or xbox still

cherryghost

Cheapest I've seen on PC is circa 22 euro

Brian_Zeluz

I see there are a number of pre-order packs but are any of them available from bricks and mortar outlets here?

daredevil360

Brian_Zeluz wrote: »

I see there are a number of pre-order packs but are any of them available from bricks and mortar outlets here?

I have Grid 2 pre ordered on Xbox 360 with Gamestop ,i want the one with the brands hatch DLC but when i asked in store the guy said he does'nt know !!! i explained about the 3 dirrerent pre order dlc packs but got a shrug of the shoulders !!:mad:

Brian_Zeluz

daredevil360 wrote: »

I have Grid 2 pre ordered on Xbox 360 with Gamestop ,i want the one with the brands hatch DLC but when i asked in store the guy said he does'nt know !!! i explained about the 3 dirrerent pre order dlc packs but got a shrug of the shoulders !!:mad:

Ah sh##e I figured as much.

irish_stevo815

Just preordered with Gamesnash. Should have it playing by thursday night

It will keep me goin til Last of Us comes out anywat