2001 Audi S6

thecomedian

Im going to have a look at one of these, its a bit different then what I was orginally looking at.
Its got 117K on it, and was parked up for over a year.
They say it has had a service but the autobox didnt have one. This is the main part that worries me, does anyone know the rough cost of one, as i expect it will need changing soon?

Also anyone here know this car?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/S6/4.2-QUAT/22613415817652590/advert?channel=CARS

Matt Simis

If you need a new Auto box get one used for about EUR500 and fitting EUR250. But its probably fine, just change filter and fluid (easily under EUR200 all inc).

L-M

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MetzgerMeister

^ so you're basically not allowing people freedom of speech?

L-M

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

^ so you're basically not allowing people freedom of speech?

Basically, yes!

The "Omg, you're buying a big engined petrol car and you're asking for advice in a MOTORS forum" are not welcome.

thecomedian

What did I miss?

MM if I had 10k I'd have a look at the MPS, even then it mightn't be my first choice.

thecomedian

Matt Simis wrote: »

If you need a new Auto box get one used for about EUR500 and fitting EUR250. But its probably fine, just change filter and fluid (easily under EUR200 all inc).

That doesn't sound too bad. I'll have a bit of money put to the side for these sort of things.

It's a bit crazy going for a V8 but if I don't do it now I mightn't be able to again

stealthyspeeder

thecomedian wrote: »

That doesn't sound too bad. I'll have a bit of money put to the side for these sort of things.

It's a bit crazy going for a V8 but if I don't do it now I mightn't be able to again

Thats the spirit! I have an RS6 and the gearbox went - 2,500 GBP to get it refurbished, so your being a lot more sensible looking into this sort of thing in detail 1st!

Gearbox service was about 250 EUR for me last yr.

leeomurchu

It's not to crazy goin for a v8 it's just the running costs are severe not to mention our wonderful road tax system.

I'm sure you'll forget about that everytime you start it up and here that throaty V8

You didn't miss much don't worry :eek:

Best of luck

Matt Simis

thecomedian wrote: »

That doesn't sound too bad. I'll have a bit of money put to the side for these sort of things.

It's a bit crazy going for a V8 but if I don't do it now I mightn't be able to again

Despite people harping endlessly about motor tax, Ireland is one of the cheapest places on the planet to own a big engined car. Purchase price is stupidly low and tax high, so the cost is laid out differently to most places. The majority of our population just want a new plate smoke box to putt putt about in however and cannot understand this.

kildare.17hmr

Looks good op, had a quick look at the ad there and it looks genuine with alot of service history and previous nct reports. Sure its only broke in with that kind of mileage

thecomedian

I went to look at it yesterday, fairly clean. Just the one dent with a bit of rust on the arch, where it scraped something. Sat nav/ radio not working, fuse gone they think and it's to be fixed next week, a few other little bits but I was happy with what I saw.

The main thing was the V8 wow
First time I drove one and I loved it, I thought why bother with the radio.
I'm getting someone to look at it properly next week.

PassMoz

Eh do you know what the tax is on that thing, you would be mad to buy that.

Drummerboy08

Not all of us are concerned about the cos of tax. I'm sure there's a thread about diesel cars where you'll fit right in

thecomedian

PassMoz wrote: »

Eh do you know what the tax is on that thing, you would be mad to buy that.

I do indeed, not worried about the cost of tax.

Also I use to pay 5k a year just to get to work, so since I moved jobs spending 1k extra on tax with no cost to get to work, is ok with me.

TestTransmission

PassMoz wrote: »

Eh do you know what the tax is on that thing, you would be mad to buy that.

Don't post in this thread again please.

-Corkie-

If you dont buy that one buy another one. They are a savage car, I only seen one in the flesh last week and experienced the rooooooaaaaarrrrrr of it in the port tunnell....:D

The Pontiac

PassMoz wrote: »

Eh do you know what the tax is on that thing, you would be mad to buy that.

I once worked with a guy who bought a brand new Audi A4 1.6 petrol .€30k+ at the time. He wanted the 1.6 as it wasn't too bad on tax.

A few weeks later I bought a four year Peugot 406 2.0 SRI (top model at the time) for a song @ €3,200. He thought I was mad as the tax was so high (about €200 more than his Audi). He was genuinely shocked I bought it.

I sold the 406 a few years later for €2,000. His Audi probably depreciated about €10k in that time. I really doubt he enjoyed driving the Audi as much as I enjoyed the Peugeot. Gotta love the Irish obsession taxing big engine cars, great bargains to be had..

Kalel

Sweet car OP, if it checks out ok go for it..the sound of that V8 will bring a smile to your face every morning..

Gary ITR

-Corkie- wrote: »

If you dont buy that one buy another one. They are a savage car, I only seen one in the flesh last week and experienced the rooooooaaaaarrrrrr of it in the port tunnell....:D

Ah but that was an RS6... op buy one of them

PassMoz

thecomedian wrote: »

I do indeed, not worried about the cost of tax.

Also I use to pay 5k a year just to get to work, so since I moved jobs spending 1k extra on tax with no cost to get to work, is ok with me.

Fair enough as long as you know its going to cost you that.

captainbirdseye

Gary ITR wrote: »

Ah but that was an RS6... op buy one of them

Like this one from "dreamer of the year 2012".
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/RS6/MTM-568-/201230209321015/advert?channel=CARS

Advertised at ~€17K last year and now a bargain at almost twice the price.

serious3

mmmmm sweet!!! can i come listen to the V8 burble sometime?:D

galwaytt

Matt Simis wrote: »

If you need a new Auto box get one used for about EUR500 and fitting EUR250. But its probably fine, just change filter and fluid (easily under EUR200 all inc).

...are you sure about those numbers?....seems very cheap......I know someone who's just gone through that with an S8, and the numbers were a lot bigger....just saying, like.

stealthyspeeder

galwaytt wrote: »

...are you sure about those numbers?....seems very cheap......I know someone who's just gone through that with an S8, and the numbers were a lot bigger....just saying, like.

Does seem a bit cheap, when I got mine refurbished it was over 2 grand GBP.

Few places in Dublin wouldnt touch it as they said it was such a b#llix to get the box out!

These guys sorted it out

http://www.burnsidegarage.co.uk/automatic_transmission_repairs

Matt Simis

galwaytt wrote: »

...are you sure about those numbers?....seems very cheap......I know someone who's just gone through that with an S8, and the numbers were a lot bigger....just saying, like.

Ironically Im someone that went through it with an S8 and those are the actual numbers from experience! EUR500 for a used gear box isnt cheap (an A8 box was cheaper but the gear ratios are unique to the S8) and EUR250 fitting is pretty normal. Maybe the guy you know got the gearbox refurbed which is obviously better but more expensive.

I bought my S8 box last year from these guys:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A8-5-Spd-Automatic-Gearbox-Type-CJY-/130589145743?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e67b83a8f#ht_895wt_1024

Lots of options in the UK for parts, shipping was under £100. Fitting as I said, EUR250, local mechanic. Just out of interest, how much was your friend ridden for!? The used gearbox is worth about EUR50 in scrap metal too, which would be subtracted from the cost.

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

Does seem a bit cheap, when I got mine refurbished it was over 2 grand GBP.

Few places in Dublin wouldnt touch it as they said it was such a b#llix to get the box out!

These guys sorted it out

http://www.burnsidegarage.co.uk/automatic_transmission_repairs

I never said refurb'ed guys! Also its a pain to get out as its an AWD, but my local (country) independent guy did it over the course of a week. He said wasnt a fun job, but he did it no bother. Its not difficult, just annoying. Think the Dublin guys you spoke to might of had the luxury of easier work lined up.

Audi gearboxes are soft chocolate, its a really common procedure.. I would be quite pissed being told to goto the UK for such a standard job. I know of at least 3 places here that would do it (Jomo Engineering, my guy in Athboy and the ZF Transmission Service centre in Dublin).

Jimbob 83

Supersleeper

thecomedian

I got the car inspected today and it came up with a few things.
There was an oil leak at the gearbox, which was a seal.(being looked after by the garage).
Front brake pads need to be replaced and maybe the discs. Drive shaft joint worn.
There is also a engine warning light on, he said it might be catalytic converter or a sensor for the emissions.

The engine warning light is a worry to me now. Could it cost alot??

art davidson

could cost the value of the car at least to get right, its a S6 afterall. not a 1.4 astra.

driveshafts are bad news, the engine management light is also hardly good news could be fuel related, lambada sensors.. whatever it is its going to cost.

and sitting idle for a year is hardly good.

be a brave man to buy that.

savagecabbages

I cant get over how 'normal' a C5 S6 looks!!

Sweet car all the same.

thecomedian

art davidson wrote: »

could cost the value of the car at least to get right, its a S6 afterall. not a 1.4 astra.

driveshafts are bad news, the engine management light is also hardly good news could be fuel related, lambada sensors.. whatever it is its going to cost.

and sitting idle for a year is hardly good.

be a brave man to buy that.

That's kinda what I was afraid of

.... didn't the crowd who checked it out have any diagnostics equipment? Mightn't be too bad at all.

Drummerboy08

RoverJames wrote: »

.... didn't the crowd who checked it out have any diagnostics equipment? Mightn't be too bad at all.

I dunno. If a car like that for sale is showing that amount of issues I'd be walking away. The gearbox seal would worry me more than the rest, you're looking at over 2k to get that box sorted if t sits down.

Fair enough, the check light could be small too, a simple diagnostic machine will tell you that very quickly.

Over all though based on what the op has said, it sounds like a rough car.

Matt Simis

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

I dunno. If a car like that for sale is showing that amount of issues I'd be walking away. The gearbox seal would worry me more than the rest, you're looking at over 2k to get that box sorted if t sits down.

Fair enough, the check light could be small too, a simple diagnostic machine will tell you that very quickly.

Over all though based on what the op has said, it sounds like a rough car.

Agreed, I wouldnt be on for buying a car with something obvious like the CEL displaying if undeclared by the seller. They clearly have no intentions of maintaining it even with very visual things, making it possible there are a host of other things to go wrong.


Go buy an S8 instead, a classier, nicer and better spec car. Given its made of Aluminium it drives and handles better too.

stealthyspeeder

thecomedian wrote: »

I got the car inspected today and it came up with a few things.
There was an oil leak at the gearbox, which was a seal.(being looked after by the garage).
Front brake pads need to be replaced and maybe the discs. Drive shaft joint worn.
There is also a engine warning light on, he said it might be catalytic converter or a sensor for the emissions.

The engine warning light is a worry to me now. Could it cost alot??

It says its been recently serviced, and there is an engine managment light on?

Part of the service is to reset the service interval on the cars computer, do this, you would need to plug into the cars computer with Audi hardware and software (or VCDS/Vagcom). If the service was done recently, why did they not identify and sort out the warning light when they had it plugged in?

Makes me think corners have been cut when servicing the car or the seller is hiding some larger problem. I would be staying away (unless you have Vagcom, in which case you can find out most of the issues in about 10 mins!)

stealthyspeeder

The gear box seal shouldnt be a big problem if its on the output shaft by the way. These wear on all C5 A6's, on the RS6 forums their lifespan is generally considered about 2 years. I had mine replaced last year, the seal is cheap but the driveshaft needs dropped before it can be replaced.

I wouldnt touch it if its leaking from anywhere else around the gearbox.

I would also drive it from cold, and check there is no hesitation between gears.

thecomedian

The dealer has said that he will find out what the warning light is and also get the seal fixed. If the warning isn't anything to serious I might chance it.

leeomurchu

I'd be lookin around at others why buy one with obvious faults.

As others have said if he hasn't bothered to try fix the EML fault then what else has he not bothered with.

This might be worth a look?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3481820

L-M

Mmm... Putrid green!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3332264

Ober cool if budget would allow.

Voodoomelon

That interior is streets ahead of its year, impressive styling.

thecomedian

RoverJames wrote: »

.... didn't the crowd who checked it out have any diagnostics equipment? Mightn't be too bad at all.

It was an AA guy who did the check, and he didn't have diagnostics equipment. Their going to run it through an Audi garage to see what it reads.

But after listening to u guys I'm turning away from it tbh

L-M

thecomedian wrote: »

It was an AA guy who did the check, and he didn't have diagnostics equipment. Their going to run it through an Audi garage to see what it reads.

But after listening to u guys I'm turning away from it tbh

Wait, what?

You paid an AA guy to look at a car for you and he didn't even have a diagnostic?

leeomurchu

Limerick man wrote: »

Mmm... Putrid green!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3332264

Ober cool if budget would allow.

It's a nasty colour alright :eek: but nicer than the s6 original op was looking at dull audi navy

There a load of nice rs4 wagons for less money on autotrader.co.uk

L-M

leeomurchu wrote: »

It's a nasty colour alright :eek: but nicer than the s6 original op was looking at dull audi navy

There a load of nice rs4 wagons for less money on autotrader.co.uk

The sterling to euro rate is horrible at the moment, plus the fact of going there, driving it home could cost you 200 euro in petrol alone and then there's VRT, NCT and tax on top.

Also, that blue is incomparably nicer than the green.

leeomurchu

Limerick man wrote: »

The sterling to euro rate is horrible at the moment, plus the fact of going there, driving it home could cost you 200 euro in petrol alone and then there's VRT, NCT and tax on top.

Also, that blue is incomparably nicer than the green.

Different strokes and all that

I'd be able to live with the expense of goin over (don't think petrol prices would be a concern considering the topic:D ) if it meant coming back in an rs4 wagon but the exchange rate is shocking at the min alright.

L-M

I'm not stating petrol prices, I'm saying these are all costs that one would have to consider if you were to import.

thecomedian

Limerick man wrote: »

But after listening to u guys I'm turning away from it tbh

Wait, what?

You paid an AA guy to look at a car for you and he didn't even have a diagnostic?[/Quote]


Yea, I guess by ur reaction he should have had that.

leeomurchu

Limerick man wrote: »

I'm not stating petrol prices, I'm saying these are all costs that one would have to consider if you were to import.

Never would've thought of that :rolleyes:

L-M

leeomurchu wrote: »

Different strokes and all that

I'd be able to live with the expense of goin over (don't think petrol prices would be a concern considering the topic:D ) if it meant coming back in an rs4 wagon but the exchange rate is shocking at the min alright.

Limerick man wrote: »

I'm not stating petrol prices, I'm saying these are all costs that one would have to consider if you were to import.

leeomurchu wrote: »

Never would've thought of that :rolleyes:

We you said you'd be able to live with the costs of going over, and I was just merely stating that the costs of going over and back are to be included in the price of everything, car included, to have said "cheaper Rs4". No need for the rolleyes.

thecomedian wrote: »

Yea, I guess by ur reaction he should have had that.

I'd imagine so? Such a huge part of cars today are fair beyond mechanics, I can't understand paying someone to look at a car and not having even a simple computer!

Matt Simis

leeomurchu wrote: »

There a load of nice rs4 wagons for less money on autotrader.co.uk

Wait, less money than what? The RS4, especially the B5 RS4 is a value holding champ, the cheapest one is £9000 on Autotrader, plus about EUR3k VRT:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/audi/rs4/postcode/ll652yh/radius/1500/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew

L-M

Rs4 avants are bloody gorgeous.