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Fluoride endgame approaches....

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    No I am not. I am just someone has a brain and won't allow anyone to poison it. Knowledge is power you know. Suppression of knowledge is the tactic here.

    Voici les nazis fluorure


    Then stop acting like one. I've twice told you you are putting people like me off your side of the argument and yet you continue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Disappointed nobody understood my reference to famous Gladys Ryan water fluoridation case back in the 60s :(


    Don't worry.
    I got the reference! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭Dude111


    zenno wrote:
    Fluoride will be removed from the Irish water supply system soon.
    It should be!!!!

    Why is it even in there??

    Ill tell you why: TO TRY AND KNOCK PEOPLE'S WILLS DOWN,make them puppets with no mind control so they can easily be controlled! (One of the many ways they do it)


    No positives from ingesting this poision! (Sodium flouride is a POISION)

    http://thyroid.about.com/cs/toxicchemicalsan/a/flouride.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭JCabot


    People just love to argue that the amounts of flouride are so small it doesnt matter or its naturally found in the soil and water so its not damaging and to be honest if that is how they feel so what let them drink it.

    But I feel differently and I believe flouride is dangerious and at least questionable so I do not want to consume it and believe I have a right not have this in my water.

    Simply enough said .. im off to put on my distiller..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Dude111 wrote: »
    It should be!!!!

    Why is it even in there??

    Ill tell you why: TO TRY AND KNOCK PEOPLE'S WILLS DOWN,make them puppets with no mind control so they can easily be controlled! (One of the many ways they do it)


    No positives from ingesting this poision! (Sodium flouride is a POISION)

    http://thyroid.about.com/cs/toxicchemicalsan/a/flouride.htm



    They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
    They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
    To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
    happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
    coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    Then stop acting like one. I've twice told you you are putting people like me off your side of the argument and yet you continue.

    It must be because I don't drink fluoridated water, and yes I continue to remain clear of it.

    Oh and If I haven't mentioned yet, I don't adhere to your concerns of been put off. If you haven't still figured out by now people are buying into this fluoridation propaganda anymore. So it looks like you are going to remain very frustrated indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Heroditas wrote: »
    They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
    They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
    To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
    happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
    coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!

    quick facts
    Now, Laugh that off, hee hee, haa haa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Yes, it's all a plot to control our minds.... Hatched by successive governments in this country that can't even balance budgets and have managed to run the country into the ground time after time. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Dude111 wrote: »
    Ill tell you why: TO TRY AND KNOCK PEOPLE'S WILLS DOWN,make them puppets with no mind control so they can easily be controlled! (One of the many ways they do it)

    Whatever about the health benefits vs. negative effects arguments (of which I'm still very dubious) the 'it's a mind control substance' argument is so ridiculous and seems to be purely based around substances which sound the same but actually aren't.

    Does anyone who believes that fluoride is used as a pacifier of the people actually understand even basic chemistry at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    So it still doesn't negate the argument the Nazis brought fluoride into to control the masses.

    Chemistry negates that argument though.
    Time for a chemistry lesson. Fluoride is the ionic form of fluorine. Don't know what an ion is? Wiki. This is basic stuff. Prozac doesn't contain fluoride and to be pedantic about it it doesn't contain fluorine either. That would be like saying carbon monoxide contains oxygen. Yes oxygen forms part of the carbon monoxide molecule but carbon monoxide does not have the properties of oxygen. Try breathing only carbon monoxide. Now apply this logic to the fluoxetine molecule. It is mainly carbon and hydrogen but, unsurprisingly, has none of the properties of either. It also has fluorine(not fluoride) in it's molecular structure but that doesn't mean it has any of the properties of fluorine(let alone fluoride).

    I was told about the mind numbing effects of fluoride by my conspiracy nut gradfather along time ago and his source of this informtion also mentioned the addition of fluorine to Prozac as well as rohipnol suggesting that it gave the drugs more mind controling properties or something of that nature. In short it was pseudoscientific BS. The authors of the article couldn't even tell the difference between fluorine and fluoride despite this being stuff we all learn about in high school.

    http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...post1059831756

    Next you'll be telling me chemistry has been controlled by the elite and what we learn in school about chemistry isn't how it works at all. But someone on Youtube has a video that explains the 'real' chemistry and proves that everything you want to believe to be true is true. That'll be handy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Heroditas wrote: »
    Yes, it's all a plot to control our minds.... Hatched by successive governments in this country that can't even balance budgets and have managed to run the country into the ground time after time. :rolleyes:

    Ah yeah, about that. Well, these guys that are in DE, but not actually running the country
    no, I dont think you're ready yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    darkhorse wrote: »
    Ah yeah, about that. Well, these guys that are in DE, but not actually running the country
    no, I dont think you're ready yet.



    NUUUUUUUURSE!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Chemistry negates that argument though.



    http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...post1059831756

    Next you'll be telling me chemistry has been controlled by the elite and what we learn in school about chemistry isn't how it works at all. But someone on Youtube has a video that explains the 'real' chemistry and proves that everything you want to believe to be true is true. That'll be handy.

    I am telling you fluoride is poison

    I don't know if anyone has missed that point or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Chemistry negates that argument though.



    .

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    I am telling you fluoride is poison

    You said it was used to control the masses by the nazis. Chemistry shows that to be incorrect. Even if they intended it for that use, it just doesn't have that effect on humans. That's the point I'm making.

    The toxicity of fluoride isn't what I'm talking about, just the silly 'mind-control' side of the argument. Lots of things are poisons but that doesn't mean they can be used to 'control' people or make them docile.

    I've yet to see one convincing argument about how fluoride works to control people and, despite what you may have read on the internet, it's not an active ingredient in prozac.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    I am telling you fluoride is poison

    I don't know if anyone has missed that point or not.
    So is oxygen.

    and it's been pointed out before so is water - The point being that by the time you drink enough fluoridated water (remember it's only 1/10th of some natural levels) to potentially affect you , you've probably going to suffer from the effects of the water first

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
    British actor Anthony Andrews survived a case of water intoxication in 2003. He was performing as Henry Higgins in a revival of the musical My Fair Lady at the time, and consumed up to eight litres of water a day. He was unconscious and in intensive care for three days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    darkhorse wrote: »
    So is oxygen. [/QUOTE]

    Well, in case you didn't know it, fluoride is highly toxic. In fact, before fluoride was deemed a "cavity fighter," it was used as insecticide and rat poison. It's true. Even more surprising is that when it comes to dental hygiene, fluoride actually does more harm than good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,181 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is there anything that can be done about getting the fluroide out of the water? I can't use mine, the smell of chemicals is very strong, it's un-drinkable, costing a small fortune on bottled water, I won't use it for coffee, tea etc. Only thing it's used for is brushing my teeth.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    darkhorse wrote: »
    So is oxygen. [/QUOTE]

    Well, in case you didn't know it, fluoride is highly toxic.
    What do you mean by "highly" ?

    no one is disputing that large amounts of water soluble inorganic salts are toxic, Most of the cleaning stuff in the average house are just lethal and not everyone rinses the dishes after using fairy liquid

    certainly the bromates added by river rock (when it was called Desani) weren't nice nor the benzine added by Perrier nor are the plasticisers used in plastic bottles for water, but then again there are more tests done on the public water supply than for bottled water.



    The irony is that the sort of rat poisons used here lead to internal bleeding and so if you ingested you would end up fierce thirsty and start drinking a lot of water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭jma


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    You said it was used to control the masses by the nazis. Chemistry shows that to be incorrect. Even if they intended it for that use, it just doesn't have that effect on humans. That's the point I'm making.

    The toxicity of fluoride isn't what I'm talking about, just the silly 'mind-control' side of the argument. Lots of things are poisons but that doesn't mean they can be used to 'control' people or make them docile.

    I've yet to see one convincing argument about how fluoride works to control people and, despite what you may have read on the internet, it's not an active ingredient in prozac.

    I don't believe that water fluoridation is a conspiracy by the Irish Government. It's much more likely that it might have been a conspiracy by some big private organisation(s) - instead of spending large amounts of money on disposal of by-products, why not sell it to governments as a solution to caries prevention...

    Dr. Robert Carton, Former President, EPA (US) Headquarters Union speaks of a conspiracy:

    "They need to understand that in the [United] States the level that is considered safe was done under fraudulent conditions. I was there when the standard was written, I know the people who wrote it, and they have told me personally that they were told to rewrite the document so that [fluoride's Maximum Contaminant Level] would come out to a much higher number. So they admit that the number should have been much lower, yet they got political pressure to raise it. And this is not just my conversations with them, this is actual documents we got a hold of under the Freedom of Information Act, that show that they intended to protect policy and not public health."

    (Sorry, original source not available, but look for 20/20 TV3 program)

    The only reason why the Irish Government are getting away with fluoridation is because the chemical used in water fluoridation is not licensed/classified as a drug/medicine by the Irish Medicines Board. However, they have disregarded S.6 of the Health (Fluoridation of Water Supplies) Act, 1960 - "General duty of the Minister as respects health surveys".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    darkhorse wrote: »
    What do you mean by "highly" ?

    no one is disputing that large amounts of water soluble inorganic salts are toxic, Most of the cleaning stuff in the average house are just lethal and not everyone rinses the dishes after using fairy liquid

    certainly the bromates added by river rock (when it was called Desani) weren't nice nor the benzine added by Perrier nor are the plasticisers used in plastic bottles for water, but then again there are more tests done on the public water supply than for bottled water.



    The irony is that the sort of rat poisons used here lead to internal bleeding and so if you ingested you would end up fierce thirsty and start drinking a lot of water

    How about you read the article, instead of me taking quotes from it.






    Dangers of Fluoride in Water and Toothpaste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    So is oxygen.

    and it's been pointed out before so is water - The point being that by the time you drink enough fluoridated water (remember it's only 1/10th of some natural levels) to potentially affect you , you've probably going to suffer from the effects of the water first


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication


    Oh I can see all this sliding down the hill. How low can the stupidity get on this thread?


    Who knows.

    Maybe the fluoride is working.

    People with common sense always say, why is there is so little common sense on this planet. I usually say, oh it's the fluoride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    jma wrote: »
    I don't believe that water fluoridation is a conspiracy by the Irish Government. It's much more likely that it might have been a conspiracy by some big private organisation(s) - instead of spending large amounts of money on disposal of by-products, why not sell it to governments as a solution to caries prevention...

    Dr. Robert Carton, Former President, EPA (US) Headquarters Union speaks of a conspiracy:

    "They need to understand that in the [United] States the level that is considered safe was done under fraudulent conditions. I was there when the standard was written, I know the people who wrote it, and they have told me personally that they were told to rewrite the document so that [fluoride's Maximum Contaminant Level] would come out to a much higher number. So they admit that the number should have been much lower, yet they got political pressure to raise it. And this is not just my conversations with them, this is actual documents we got a hold of under the Freedom of Information Act, that show that they intended to protect policy and not public health."

    (Sorry, original source not available, but look for 20/20 TV3 program)

    The only reason why the Irish Government are getting away with fluoridation is because the chemical used in water fluoridation is not licensed/classified as a drug/medicine by the Irish Medicines Board. However, they have disregarded S.6 of the Health (Fluoridation of Water Supplies) Act, 1960 - "General duty of the Minister as respects health surveys".


    The Irish government are a bunch of pansies in office when it comes to the big scheme of world elite matters I've actually spoken to politicians in this country, and some of them didn't even know what the word fluoride was. I wrote emails to some and got no response.. Yet our politicians are one of the highest paid in the world, something is seriously wrong here.

    What does that say about our government and our country's affairs?

    Our government literally laps up to what ever the British elite tell's them to do. Just like Blair had Bertie wrapped around his little finger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    Is there anything that can be done about getting the fluroide out of the water? I can't use mine, the smell of chemicals is very strong, it's un-drinkable, costing a small fortune on bottled water, I won't use it for coffee, tea etc. Only thing it's used for is brushing my teeth.


    Well you can get nonfluoride toothpaste in all health shops now. I get that all the time.
    Vitamin D helps decalcify fluoride deposits in the body. So sunshine can help. Vitamin D Itself is a wonder vitamin for all sorts of things.

    You can get good quality water in many shops. It's expensive and not always ideal., I changed my whole life, to cater for this, so it's all second nature to me now without thinking and hey it's worse than going through cancer later in life and we all know how much cancer will pay for. Cancer costs your life. Get bottled water. I never use the tap water. The only fluoride that gets on me is showering and certain foods obviously that are Irish made with fluoride used in it. Unfortunately it's unavoidable to remove all fluoride from foods we ingest. But that's ok as our bodies can remove most of it, but not the amount that most are doped on currently.And we can detoxify.

    You will be amazed at the changes in you when you start to get all this shiit out of your system. It actually sticks to your bones like glue, it fills up your pineal gland and it reacts to aluminium which also goes straight to the brain.

    When you're fluoride free, you go outside the door and you actually feel as if your in that movie with zombies. Everyone is doped on this stuff. The only way to know this is to come clean from it. It's like the saying you don't know how much **** drunk people say until you go to the pub sober with drunk people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    darkhorse wrote: »


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    You will be amazed at the changes in you when you start to get all this shiit out of your system. It actually sticks to your bones like glue, it fills up your pineal gland and it reacts to aluminium which also goes straight to the brain.

    Take off tinfoil hat. Problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    A crocadile isn't going to guide a human across the river, and he certainly isn't going to tell the human fluoride isn't safe to drink, if the human is his next meal. It's perfect ambush ;)

    Like crocadiles, the elite are alike. They want us as food and the elite want cash too. it usually help with their vetted interest. We work for them as slaves. It's always good business to have a world full of dumb slaves.


    Here's a great quote, to a man who died a few years ago. George Carlin.


    "The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying ­ lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else."

    "But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting ****ed by a system that threw them overboard 30 ****ing years ago.

    "You know what they want? Obedient workers ­ people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly ****tier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your ****ing retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this ****ing place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."


    "This country is finished."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭jma


    So is oxygen.

    and it's been pointed out before so is water - The point being that by the time you drink enough fluoridated water (remember it's only 1/10th of some natural levels) to potentially affect you , you've probably going to suffer from the effects of the water first

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

    I know you're trying to make a point about toxicity, but that's a really bad comparison. Hydrofluosilicic acid is classed as a dangerous substance - EC classification R34 (UN Hazard Class: 8) - in other words, AVOID ALL CONTACT, while Oxygen (O2) has an EC classification R8 (UN Hazard Class 2.2), and that's mainly due to the fact that it's a compressed gas with a risk of combustion. Water (H2O) is not classed as a dangerous material/substance at all, and doesn't have a classification.

    Also, when we talk about water fluoridation, acute toxicity is not the issue, it's chronic exposure to Fluoride. And water is not the only source of Fluoride. One person, even living in the same household, could be exposed to 1,000% more Fluoride per day than the next. So, acute toxicity levels do not really factor in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Aquarius34 wrote: »
    A crocadile isn't going to guide a human across the river, and he certainly isn't going to tell the human fluoride isn't safe to drink, if the human is his next meal. It's perfect ambush ;)

    Like crocadiles, the elite are alike. They want us as food and the elite want cash too. it usually help with their vetted interest. We work for them as slaves. It's always good business to have a world full of dumb slaves.


    Here's a great quote, to a man who died a few years ago. George Carlin.


    "The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying ­ lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else."

    "But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting ****ed by a system that threw them overboard 30 ****ing years ago.

    "You know what they want? Obedient workers ­ people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly ****tier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your ****ing retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this ****ing place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."


    "This country is finished."

    What has any of that got to do with flouride? You know for someone arguing against flouridation and posting reams of text I've seen sfa that actually backs up anything you're saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Aquarius34


    The truth is the this world is finished, it's down the potty, and the elite have poisoned it's people for greed, power and selfish means. The sad part is, the innocent are victims.to all of this, and this is why justice needs to be done.

    But I can tell you this much, I ain't going down on any sinking ship and no one is going to get anything from me. No one is going to poison me or tell me what to do, how I should do it or what to do with my life.

    Waking up, is about taking back your free will, and the only way to do that, is to start becoming aware of yourself and who you are. We have free will, When we become aware, we understand we have free choice at all times. We do not have to submit in fear to anyone. We do not have to abide by this system or live in this prison. We don't need to drink fluoridated water. The elite do not care about us just as they care no more about your teeth.

    The pineal gland is what they are trying to kill, because the elite, know exactly what this gland is capable of doing.

    The strong will survive and get through this, that is the the reality and the elite can rot in hell with the hell they have created here.


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